god is not real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mar 9, 2013
 
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>To the extent God is love and you claim to measure love, yes.
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<quoted text>You are deluding yourself with the belief you can measure love.
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<quoted text>I respect those that worship God, I never claimed to be a Christian, or any other religion.
I got some baaaad news for you: the christian god is NOT love.

But the christian god IS ego-- a massive amount of it.

This god they describe? This god is so ego-driven it cannot stand to be near any being who does not bow and scrape like a slave, praising it's horrid little name 24/7.

If those around it do not act like a slave in it's presence? It will torture them for all eternity.

That's not love.

That's narcissism. And sadism.

So you'd best try a different god, than the bible's god, if you wish to talk about love.

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Mar 9, 2013
 
The Dude wrote:
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And as already stated "God" exists as a brain-state within the human cranium. So far it has never been demonstrated to exist as anything else.
Interestingly, by the same token, atheism also exists. It is not merely an abstract concept regarding a simple lack of belief in the existence of (a) God, it actually exists. Also as a brain-state within the human cranium. Therefore both God and atheism actually exist simultaneously.
:-)
You posit some interesting points, here.

One I must allow to fester in the sub-conscious portions of my cranium for a time, to see what I really think about them.

:D

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I do often wonder, though-- let's presume that one of the various gods from which to choose, is actually a god, and not a collective figment.

And further, let's presume that the god is a classical one, who uses some form of infinite torture as "punishment" for those persons the god disapproves of, but especially on those who do not or can not make themselves believe in said god.

Now.

Since the majority of descriptions given to the majority of gods, seem to place the blame for human existence firmly in the lap/hands of the gods in question?

This brings up my point:

Why did the god create people who lack the ability to lie to themselves?

That is-- why did the god create atheists-- who do not appear to be able to lie about things for which there are no facts (faith)?

Speaking for myself, I cannot force myself to believe in a god, without seeing substantial facts and evidence showing such an unlikely being is real.

I simply do not have what it takes to lie to myself in sufficient quantities, to generate the requisite faith that is required.

So who's fault is it? Me? Or this god who made me an atheist?
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Mar 9, 2013
 
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
So who's fault is it? Me? Or this god who made me an atheist?
Definitely the latter, as ultimately it is responsible for everything.

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Mar 9, 2013
 
Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>Which means that your parents failed, because like a child you are denying personal responsibilty.
Why do Christian fundamentalists keep repeating this lie?

If any belief allows one to avoid personal responsibility that belief is Christianity. It seems that he is projecting his own bad behavior upon others.
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Mar 9, 2013
 
Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>Which means that your parents failed, because like a child you are denying personal responsibilty.
Ah, but that was within the hypothetical example of a theist-borne universe.

You WERE paying attention, were you not?
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Mar 9, 2013
 
Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>But, you were not paying attention and your attempts are funny. It is in fact the product of your chance-borne universe. No responsibility, just happened.
Yes, you find it fun beating up straw-men. One day you will find the courage to overcome your imagined boogey-men.

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Mar 9, 2013
 
The Dude wrote:
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Definitely the latter, as ultimately it is responsible for everything.
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If that is so, then ultimately who's responsible?

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Mar 9, 2013
 
Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>Which means that your parents failed, because like a child you are denying personal responsibilty.
Well, according to the label, the Xianist-God is responsible for everything.

If that is true?

Then there is no such thing as free will-- it cannot possibly exist, in a universe that has a god as described in the bible.

And as such, no single person can be held accountable for anything-- the Xianist-god is the sole mover here.

Meaning that this god's hell is nothing more than a capricious god using infinite torture, obviously because he likes it.

That is one ugly god you've invented there.

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Mar 9, 2013
 
Oscar Wilde_ wrote:
<quoted text>Which has nothing to do with your irresponsibility and your parent failing to teach you to be responsible. When your parents abused you, did they say it was God's fault or are you saying this?
There can be no responsibility in a universe that has a Xianst-god in it.

Apart from the god in question--who holds the >>sole<< responsibility for everything.

Sorry, but that's the way it has to be, if your bible-god is real.

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Mar 10, 2013
 
Some of you guys confuse me if you're a atheist or Christian.
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Some of you guys confuse me if you're a atheist or Christian.
Is that supposed to be our problem?(shrug)

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Carchar king wrote:
Some of you guys confuse me if you're a atheist or Christian.
What?

No third or forth choice, here?

So very limited you are...

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Carchar king wrote:
Some of you guys confuse me if you're a atheist or Christian.
If you are confused, you are probably Christian.

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Mar 11, 2013
 
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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What?
No third or forth choice, here?
So very limited you are...
This is a Christian vs Atheist thread.

Do I see the name Allah is not real!!!!

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Carchar king wrote:
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This is a Christian vs Atheist thread.
Do I see the name Allah is not real!!!!
God is a very general term. Zeus was a god, Thor was a god. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is God.

For this to be an anti Christian God it would have been named "Jesus was not real!!!!!!!!!!" Or if you want to throw Judaism into the mix it could have said "Yahweh is not real!!!!!!!!!!" As written the term is very general and all conclusive. Please note the OP did not even capitalize the word "god".

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Carchar king wrote:
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This is a Christian vs Atheist thread.
Do I see the name Allah is not real!!!!
Allah/god/divine-being?

There is no functional difference, really.

All are equally unreal.

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Subduction Zone wrote:
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God is a very general term. Zeus was a god, Thor was a god. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is God.
For this to be an anti Christian God it would have been named "Jesus was not real!!!!!!!!!!" Or if you want to throw Judaism into the mix it could have said "Yahweh is not real!!!!!!!!!!" As written the term is very general and all conclusive. Please note the OP did not even capitalize the word "god".
Exactly. Well stated.
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This is a Christian vs Atheist thread.
Do I see the name Allah is not real!!!!
God is a title. Allah is a title. They both mean the same thing.

They're both virtually the same religion anyway.(shrug)

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God is a title. Allah is a title. They both mean the same thing.
They're both virtually the same religion anyway.(shrug)
Indeed. From the outside, looking in?

The results are pretty much the same; women treated as 2nd class, children abused, etc.
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Mar 16, 2013
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch... sometimes looks like jesus..

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