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“Ask Randy From Ballwin”

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#144 Sep 29, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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No moron, that is my favorite line when I have kicked the crap out of a creatard.
So far you have had nothing tonight. You have been scoring a big fat zero.
You should take this comedy act of yours on the road. It is quite amusing lol

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#145 Sep 29, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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You should take this comedy act of yours on the road. It is quite amusing lol
You poor idiot. You are extremely masochistic tonight, and I will gladly play along for a while.
Cod

Houston, TX

#146 Sep 29, 2013
Subduction Zone hey? Funny but that Sub prefix seem to fit you to a tee.
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BTW, did you know that when the the Fukushima plants exploded that you were inhaling 6 hot particles a day? How do you feel about that?
Oh and its still dumping millions of tons of radioactive water into he Pacific everyday. Seems a bit more of a problem than Al Gore and his wanting a Carbon tax paid to him.

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#147 Sep 30, 2013
Cod wrote:
Subduction Zone hey? Funny but that Sub prefix seem to fit you to a tee.
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BTW, did you know that when the the Fukushima plants exploded that you were inhaling 6 hot particles a day? How do you feel about that?
Oh and its still dumping millions of tons of radioactive water into he Pacific everyday. Seems a bit more of a problem than Al Gore and his wanting a Carbon tax paid to him.
Where is your link supporting this claim?

And even if that were the case that is several orders of magnitude below the background level of natural radiation. A banana is more dangerous than that.
Cod

Houston, TX

#148 Sep 30, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Where is your link supporting this claim?
And even if that were the case that is several orders of magnitude below the background level of natural radiation. A banana is more dangerous than that.
Say there Chumley I'd hate to break it to you, BUT you aren't supposed to inhale even one hot particle a day. Saying that 6 hot particles a day is several orders of magnitude below background is really just pulling it out your ass. As for what you do with bananas and cukes is your business. I already gave you some advice on protecting yourself. It up to you to do your own homework.

“Ask Randy From Ballwin”

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#149 Sep 30, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
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Where is your link supporting this claim?
And even if that were the case that is several orders of magnitude below the background level of natural radiation. A banana is more dangerous than that.
Why should he give you a link. You will just say "oh well don't take a few articles very seriously. They don't mean much anyway" LOL

And besides that you have not shown one link tonight to back up anything you have claimed, said or stated.

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#150 Sep 30, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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Why should he give you a link. You will just say "oh well don't take a few articles very seriously. They don't mean much anyway" LOL
And besides that you have not shown one link tonight to back up anything you have claimed, said or stated.
No, the moron cannot support his claims.

He is another radiation nut.

But let's give the idiot a chance:

What exactly do you mean by a "Hot Particle"?

What evidence do you have that you are not supposed to inhale "even one a day"?

You do know that most foods that we ear are naturally radioactive, don't you?

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#151 Sep 30, 2013
A life expectancy of 35 does not mean people tended to live tjat long. It means half died at birth. We have many remains of cro magnon and neanderthal s living into their 60s.

And due to the mechanics of matrilineal and patrilineal descent, the unmixed dna of the y chromosome and mt-dna must intersect at a single individual of each sex at some point even if a million people were living at the time. And the other genes of these people will not have died out either.

The biggest pr mistake of biologists was the tongue in cheek labelling of these individuals Adam and Eve. That was bound to open the way for creatards to manipulate the truth.
DarwinPaul

Houston, TX

#152 Sep 30, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
A life expectancy of 35 does not mean people tended to live tjat long. It means half died at birth.
LOL

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#153 Oct 1, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
A life expectancy of 35 does not mean people tended to live tjat long. It means half died at birth. We have many remains of cro magnon and neanderthal s living into their 60s.
Chim, I respectfully disagree. The lifespan of individuals in ancient times was about 35 years of age. Infant mortality -- although high compared to present day -- was not used in the calculation of life expectancy (that I'm aware of).

Still looking for confirmation.

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#154 Oct 1, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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Chim, I respectfully disagree. The lifespan of individuals in ancient times was about 35 years of age. Infant mortality -- although high compared to present day -- was not used in the calculation of life expectancy (that I'm aware of).
Still looking for confirmation.
I think we have to sort this out. Most life expectancy data that I have seen was "life expectancy at birth".

I used to come across it a lot in discussions of ancient times where someone would say a Roman was "old" at 30 because life expectancy was 25. But its baloney - fewer than half of people made it to adulthood. Caesar was 44 when they cut him down and said to be in his prime. In Socrates' day, Athenians were up for military service to the age of 60 and old Soc was over 70 when they executed him. Spartans were not even allowed to live with their wives until they were over 30.

I have read about - many years ago - Neanderthal remains of advanced age into their 60s showing signs of arthritis.

So I think we aged at a pretty similar rate but than Thanks to the violent lifestyles and infectious diseases, fewer people lasted into what we would call old age.

But lets verify that when I have more time!

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#155 Oct 1, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>I think we have to sort this out. Most life expectancy data that I have seen was "life expectancy at birth".

I used to come across it a lot in discussions of ancient times where someone would say a Roman was "old" at 30 because life expectancy was 25. But its baloney - fewer than half of people made it to adulthood. Caesar was 44 when they cut him down and said to be in his prime. In Socrates' day, Athenians were up for military service to the age of 60 and old Soc was over 70 when they executed him. Spartans were not even allowed to live with their wives until they were over 30.

I have read about - many years ago - Neanderthal remains of advanced age into their 60s showing signs of arthritis.

So I think we aged at a pretty similar rate but than Thanks to the violent lifestyles and infectious diseases, fewer people lasted into what we would call old age.

But lets verify that when I have more time!
Agreed.

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Since: May 08

Orlando

#156 Oct 1, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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I think we have to sort this out. Most life expectancy data that I have seen was "life expectancy at birth".
I used to come across it a lot in discussions of ancient times where someone would say a Roman was "old" at 30 because life expectancy was 25. But its baloney - fewer than half of people made it to adulthood. Caesar was 44 when they cut him down and said to be in his prime. In Socrates' day, Athenians were up for military service to the age of 60 and old Soc was over 70 when they executed him. Spartans were not even allowed to live with their wives until they were over 30.
I have read about - many years ago - Neanderthal remains of advanced age into their 60s showing signs of arthritis.
So I think we aged at a pretty similar rate but than Thanks to the violent lifestyles and infectious diseases, fewer people lasted into what we would call old age.
But lets verify that when I have more time!
From what I've been able to find (so far), is that your argument seems to be correct. At least from this source:

http://www.anth.ucsb.edu/faculty/gurven/paper...

"A fundamental conclusion we draw from this analysis is that extensive longevity appears to be a novel feature of Homo sapiens. Our results contradict Vallois’s (1961: 222) claim that among early humans,“few individuals passed forty years, and it is only quite exceptionally that any passed fifty,” and the more traditional Hobbesian view of a nasty, brutish, and short human life (see also King and Jukes 1969; Weiss 1981). The data show that modal adult life span is 68–78 years, and that it was not uncommon for individuals to reach these ages, suggesting that inferences based on paleodemographic reconstruction are unreliable. One recent study that avoids several common problems of skeletal aging used dental-wear seriation and relative macro-age categories (ratio of old to young) to demonstrate an increase in the relative presenceof older adults from australopithecines to early Homo and, more strikingly, among Upper Paleolithic humans (Caspari and Lee 2004; but see Hawkes and O’Connell 2005).

More compellingly, a recent re-estimation of several common
paleo-mortality curves based on hazard analysis and maximum likelihood methods shows a life course pattern similar to that of our ethnographic sample (Konigsberg and Herrmann 2006)."

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Unless I can find equally compelling data on the other side, I may be forced to agree with you.

Darn.

;-)

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#157 Oct 1, 2013
BTW, The referenced article is pretty interesting taken as a whole, not just the portion that I copy/pasted.

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#158 Oct 1, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
BTW, The referenced article is pretty interesting taken as a whole, not just the portion that I copy/pasted.
I will look into it.

What I like about science. Whoever turned out to be right in this case, we both learned something. If it was a religious question we would be arguing for as long as Methuselah lived :-) except we would probably have to kill each other before then.

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#159 Oct 1, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
BTW, The referenced article is pretty interesting taken as a whole, not just the portion that I copy/pasted.
It is.

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#160 Oct 1, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
BTW, The referenced article is pretty interesting taken as a whole, not just the portion that I copy/pasted.
This one is pretty interesting too.

http://www.espressogossip.com/articles/view/1...

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Orlando

#161 Oct 2, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
<quoted text>This one is pretty interesting too.

http://www.espressogossip.com/articles/view/1...
Can't argue with THAT!!!
Heyhowyoudoin'!

“Ask Randy From Ballwin”

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#162 Oct 2, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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This one is pretty interesting too.
http://www.espressogossip.com/articles/view/1...
It is amazing what money will buy. Peer pressure and the fear of losing stardom status will push people to do(keep fit).

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#163 Oct 2, 2013
replaytime wrote:
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It is amazing what money will buy. Peer pressure and the fear of losing stardom status will push people to do(keep fit).
Their hard sacrifice allows us all the pleasure of seeing the results. I am not complaining.

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