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#284 Aug 23, 2014
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I think the book of Enoch is NT Apocrypha. I'm really not interested in it. Now if you can find a book before the advent of Jesus, in OT times, that for some reason was not canonized, I would be very interested. There are a lot of prophecies that are not in the bible. I'm pretty sure Elijah must have had a book.
It's one of the oldest actually, 300 -100 BC and is in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

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#285 Aug 23, 2014
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I choose to remain ignorant when it comes to the NT. I have a whole theology built upon the OT and reading things related to Christianity would only confuse things. I consider the NT to be "mind pollution". Satan and Lucifer are the only "fallen angels". They have been kicked out of heaven and reincarnated. This time, they will both go to hell.
Believing that crap is beyond my capacity to believe.
TurkanaBoy

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#287 Aug 24, 2014
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Did you hear about the archaeologist who discovered a dinosaur fossil with soft tissue? I don't remember exactly what was said, but it's proof for dinosaurs existing thousands of years ago, not millions. Nephilim simply means "giant" which the dinosaurs were.
BTW archaeologists are not involved in the study of fossils.
These are palaeontologist, geologists and biologists.
Are you tattling about things you don't have the faintest understanding of, Susan?

Nephilim DOES NOT just mean "just" giant, LET ALONE "dinosaur".
Both Aura and I have pointed you out to the EXACT biblical quotes and to the theological exegesis of it. You are totally and plainly WRONG. End discussion, period. If you don't have nothing else but to lousily and dully copy&paste your mantra "Nephilim simply means "giant" which the dinosaurs were", which is etymologically also wrong, I just put an end to this.
TurkanaBoy

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#288 Aug 24, 2014
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Part of VWD Day is destruction. There will be 3 judgments by fire. In Christianity, only 144,000 will ultimately be saved. You have better odds with me. 3% of 7 billion is 210 million. I call this "Judgment Day" because most of humanity will be cut off. Judgment day is the day you die.
DESTROY! DESTROY! DESTROY!
KILL! KILL! KILL!

The Talibaan is speaking. The Christian that is.

The sooner this idiotic caboodle is gone, the better the world will be.
TurkanaBoy

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#289 Aug 24, 2014
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>I choose to remain ignorant when it comes to the NT. I have a whole theology built upon the OT and reading things related to Christianity would only confuse things. I consider the NT to be "mind pollution". Satan and Lucifer are the only "fallen angels". They have been kicked out of heaven and reincarnated. This time, they will both go to hell.
Ah you choose to remain ignorant when it comes to the NT.
How random and whimsical.
Susan just decided something.

the only thing between you and me , Susan, is that I just disbelieve one bronze age mythology book MORE than you do. For the rest you and I are the same - atheists.

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#290 Aug 25, 2014
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>There was soft tissue found on a dinosaur fossil. It must have been frozen, I would think. This indicates a recent death of the animal. Recent meaning thousands of years, not millions. Gods last extinction came about by a vast flood. The next extinction will be by fire.
Susan, you need to do a little research before opening mouth and some fool sticking their foot in it. It really is no good guessing when you don't know the answer. First, it was not viable soft tissue material and next, it was not frozen but protected from bacteria by being encased before bacteria could get to it. Finally, dinosaur,s became extinct around 65 million years ago, so not recent.
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#291 Aug 28, 2014
Oh hey Suzy. God still a woman? Thought so.

Thanks to our resident wordsmith for resurrecting dormant fundies.

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#292 Aug 28, 2014
The Dude wrote:
Oh hey Suzy. God still a woman?....
Of course I am...Chuckle

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#293 Aug 28, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
<quoted text>
DESTROY! DESTROY! DESTROY!
KILL! KILL! KILL!
The Talibaan is speaking. The Christian that is.
The sooner this idiotic caboodle is gone, the better the world will be.
The belief that 3% will survive Judgment day comes straight from the OT. Isaiah 24:6 "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left". This will be the second consumption by fire and it will affect the wicked. Those who have committed a deadly sin or will not repent. A few is 3, but I think it means 3%.

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#294 Aug 28, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah you choose to remain ignorant when it comes to the NT.
How random and whimsical.
Susan just decided something.
the only thing between you and me , Susan, is that I just disbelieve one bronze age mythology book MORE than you do. For the rest you and I are the same - atheists.
Why do you think I am an atheist? I am just not a Christian. A lot of people cannot understand how I can be a fundamentalist and not be a Christian. Christianity is the purest form of Satan worship and it will ultimately kill you. Zechariah 14:12 "...Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth". This will be the third and final judgment by fire.

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#295 Aug 28, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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Susan, you need to do a little research before opening mouth and some fool sticking their foot in it. It really is no good guessing when you don't know the answer. First, it was not viable soft tissue material and next, it was not frozen but protected from bacteria by being encased before bacteria could get to it. Finally, dinosaur,s became extinct around 65 million years ago, so not recent.
The bible has been proved factually accurate time and time again, but I don't believe it is perfect and inerrant. Flesh will decompose if it is not frozen. I think the flood wiped out the last remnant of the dinosaurs like the bible says but most of them were killed long before that.

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#296 Aug 28, 2014
The Dude wrote:
Oh hey Suzy. God still a woman? Thought so.
Thanks to our resident wordsmith for resurrecting dormant fundies.
I've been around Dude, just on other threads. Yes, God is still a woman. We are in the middle of astronomical events, the 4 blood moons on Jewish holidays in 2014 and 2015. The Messiah should come by next fall. There will also be a solar eclipse next Spring. Joel 2:31 "The sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come".
TurkanaBoy

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#297 Aug 28, 2014
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>Why do you think I am an atheist? I am just not a Christian. A lot of people cannot understand how I can be a fundamentalist and not be a Christian. Christianity is the purest form of Satan worship and it will ultimately kill you. Zechariah 14:12 "...Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth". This will be the third and final judgment by fire.
You are simply not able to follow the most simplest of reasoning.
Your post is entirely missing the point and senseless bible babble.
Until now your answers were completely unrelated to the posts provided.
You live in your superstitious bronze age mythology world unrelated to the world around you.
TurkanaBoy

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#298 Aug 28, 2014
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The bible has been proved factually accurate time and time again, but I don't believe it is perfect and inerrant. Flesh will decompose if it is not frozen. I think the flood wiped out the last remnant of the dinosaurs like the bible says but most of them were killed long before that.
The bible didn't say that dino's were wiped out.
The bible didn't even mention dino's.
The bible didn't also mention all the hundred of thousands of extinct animals that we found in the fossil record - dinosaurs only a few of them.
There was no flood.
It never existed and no evidence is nowhere to be found of it.
The flood is even impossible by the most of today's science.

Who is gonna drag Susan into the next century?
Which in her case will be the 6th BC.
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

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#299 Aug 28, 2014
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The belief that 3% will survive Judgment day comes straight from the OT. Isaiah 24:6 "Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left". This will be the second consumption by fire and it will affect the wicked. Those who have committed a deadly sin or will not repent. A few is 3, but I think it means 3%.
KILL! KILL! KILL! KILL!
I don't care about the OT.
Like you denying the NT, I deny the OT.
I TOLD you: I just disbelieve one holy book more than you.
That's the whole difference between you and I.
The OT is a random bronze age mythology book by some random middle east semi-nomadic tribe, copied to great extent from older sources, like Gilgamesh Epic and from Egyptian sources. Among the copycatted pieces from Gilgamesh Epic, which has an almost exact copy of Noah's flood story. With only one tiny exception - Gilgamesh Epic was older and it originated form Sumerian culture. Weren't the Jewish not in exile in Babylonia, the homeland of Sumer? Ah ... yes!
TurkanaBoy

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#300 Aug 28, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Susan, you need to do a little research before opening mouth and some fool sticking their foot in it. It really is no good guessing when you don't know the answer. First, it was not viable soft tissue material and next, it was not frozen but protected from bacteria by being encased before bacteria could get to it. Finally, dinosaur,s became extinct around 65 million years ago, so not recent.
And Schweitzer herself found that the tissues were preserved by both encasement in bone pockets and protected from bacteria by being submerged in iron solution. Which she proved to be an extraordinary preservative in a 2 years lasting experiment on it.

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#301 Aug 29, 2014
susanblange wrote:
<quoted text>The bible has been proved factually accurate time and time again, but I don't believe it is perfect and inerrant. Flesh will decompose if it is not frozen. I think the flood wiped out the last remnant of the dinosaurs like the bible says but most of them were killed long before that.
When was the babble proven accurate, I must have been away on another planet when that news broke.

Some small, mostly inconsequential parts of it, i.e. places, some of the more famous names, kings, regional governors etc have been proven to be accurate. Just because Nebuchadnezzar II and Darius I were living persons does not provide evidence that god existed and committed world genocide by flooding and drowning every living entity on this planet., bar a close buddy, a few of his mates and 19 million animals in a boat that could not have been built.

The biblical flood is one of those many things that have not been proven, in fact it has been distinctly disproven in several different ways, besides the complete lack of evidence and logistical impossibility there are a couple of really big and longstanding bugbears to godbots. Firstly, the same thing that proves them wrong every time, that thing that you are 100% sure is 100% accurate when sentencing a convicted criminal and 100% sure is 100% inaccurate when pronouncing sentence on your faith... DNA. Secondly, another stone in the shoe for godbots, historical and archaeological fact.

Your understanding of science is somewhat lacking. There are several ways of preventing “flesh” from deteriorating, removal of bacteria, vacuum/removal of oxygen, sterilisation, radiation, certain chemicals etc, etc.

FYI, that dinosaur soft tissue was a non viable brown matter discovered sealed inside a leg bone and is dated (several different ways) at around 68 million years old.

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#302 Aug 29, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
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And Schweitzer herself found that the tissues were preserved by both encasement in bone pockets and protected from bacteria by being submerged in iron solution. Which she proved to be an extraordinary preservative in a 2 years lasting experiment on it.
Correct. As I would expect from you, just don’t tell su and upset her delusions... chuckle.

She is actually quite a nice girl, although somewhat disturbed, in more than the usual godbot way. We have begin some potentially interesting conversations together, unfortunately they soon deteriorated into goddunitwivmagic. She will not take fact or evidence as an answer and she hides behind her own very peculiar brand of personal made up wall of faith. I.e. the OT is right except where she thinks it is wrong, the Tanakh is more right except where it is wrong. Oh yes and god was a woman, she is adamant about that. There are however very valid reasons that she hides behind her delusion that I will not go into.

A few seconds later... This new setup for topix is confusing; I clicked the reply for your previous post.
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

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#303 Aug 29, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct. As I would expect from you, just don’t tell su and upset her delusions... chuckle.
She is actually quite a nice girl, although somewhat disturbed, in more than the usual godbot way. We have begin some potentially interesting conversations together, unfortunately they soon deteriorated into goddunitwivmagic. She will not take fact or evidence as an answer and she hides behind her own very peculiar brand of personal made up wall of faith. I.e. the OT is right except where she thinks it is wrong, the Tanakh is more right except where it is wrong. Oh yes and god was a woman, she is adamant about that. There are however very valid reasons that she hides behind her delusion that I will not go into.
A few seconds later... This new setup for topix is confusing; I clicked the reply for your previous post.
Well..... if god eventually turned out to be a woman, THAT would be funny ..... all those beard-rubbing pedants ....(I have often asked myself even as a 12 year old boy -[really, that old!]: WTF is god doing with a penis ....).

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#304 Aug 29, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
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Well..... if god eventually turned out to be a woman, THAT would be funny ..... all those beard-rubbing pedants ....(I have often asked myself even as a 12 year old boy -[really, that old!]: WTF is god doing with a penis ....).
A real shocker for sure

Although there are hundreds of presidents, personally I’d go with Aphrodite / Venus

Perhaps she will turn out to be Cybele and all those good and manly christians will have to castrate themselves

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