Evangelicals talking sense to creationists

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Yesterday, I received a letter and a booklet from an organization called Day Star Research .

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“So it's not you, It's them?”

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#1 May 23, 2013
Which should beg the question: If evangelicals are actually "talking sense" to creationists, who is talking sense to evangelicals?
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#2 May 23, 2013
Scientists apparently. Or at least these particular evangelicals are finally paying attention to them (it is noted that Hareen is a former anti-science promoter).

This is a good step.

And it will annoy fundies.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#3 May 23, 2013
Agreed. I may not have the same philosophical leanings as the writer of this piece, but at least he has his head screwed on straight when it comes to science.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#4 May 23, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
Agreed. I may not have the same philosophical leanings as the writer of this piece, but at least he has his head screwed on straight when it comes to science.
Well he is a physicist who thinks creationism is BS, so that helps.

“I Am No One Else”

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#5 May 25, 2013
You know, when Evangelicals are teaching you something about science, you really need to go back to school. The funny thing, this news does not surprise me one bit. Many Evangelicals have recently began taking the side of not only science, but secularism. A strange and, at one time, surprising trend. I have witnessed a few even becoming deists recently.

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#7 Jun 1, 2013
OOOOObama wrote:
Prove evolution. I'll bet you can't.
"Proof" is for mathematics and alcohol.

There is overwhelming evidence for evolution and none against it. It is one of the most successful, most well accepted theories in all of science.
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#8 Jun 1, 2013
OOOOObama wrote:
Prove evolution. I'll bet you can't.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/evolution/T9Q...

And we haven't even mentioned ERV's yet.

You might as well have said "Prove gravity! I bet you can't!"

Just because YOU are ignorant of a subject does not mean it's invalid.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#9 Jun 2, 2013
OOOOObama wrote:
Prove evolution. I'll bet you can't.
Well, our museums, text books and DNA labs are chock full of evidence for evolution. Evolution is the backbone of the modern day life sciences, accepted by 99% plus of all qualified life scientists.

Why would you "bet" that evolution can't be "proven"?
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#10 Jun 2, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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Well, our museums, text books and DNA labs are chock full of evidence for evolution. Evolution is the backbone of the modern day life sciences, accepted by 99% plus of all qualified life scientists.
Why would you "bet" that evolution can't be "proven"?
The ones who believe the Creator of our universe has the power to create life instantly, are not accepted or qualified by the powers that be. This should give us a clue.

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#11 Jun 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>The ones who believe the Creator of our universe has the power to create life instantly, are not accepted or qualified by the powers that be. This should give us a clue.
That is because there beliefs are not based upon reality. They believe in a self contradictory book with debunked fairy tales, bad morals, and failed prophecies.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#12 Jun 2, 2013
To understand truth and to fear God is the beginning of wisdom. To deny the power of God is foolish.

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#13 Jun 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
To understand truth and to fear God is the beginning of wisdom. To deny the power of God is foolish.
Wrong to have beliefs that are based upon myths is foolish.

If you had evidence for your god perhaps more people would believe in him.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#14 Jun 2, 2013
The evidence is pictured in stone and just like everything else, it will probably not see the light of day if some people have their way. The truth is there to see, it is just that some people will never accept it and others wouldn't know it if they were looking right at it.

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#15 Jun 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
The evidence is pictured in stone and just like everything else, it will probably not see the light of day if some people have their way. The truth is there to see, it is just that some people will never accept it and others wouldn't know it if they were looking right at it.
Nope, the evidence carved in stone is geology and that does not support creation.

So try again, what is your evidence?

So far you have offered none.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#16 Jun 2, 2013
To some sceptics nothing would be good enough to prove the existence of a Creator, but to those who believe he is, it is easy to see his hand is at work throughout all of creation. What a person with faith can clearly see, a doubter would say is too vague. If we had the faith of a child, we could see a clear face looking down on us in a full moon, but a person who studies the details would look closer and only see craters and moon rocks and claim it was a delusion to see a face to begin with. Everything has a purpose for being exactly where it is and sometimes we just need to take time to look and admire the beauty of his creation and just know that he is.

“I Am No One Else”

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#17 Jun 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
The evidence is pictured in stone and just like everything else, it will probably not see the light of day if some people have their way. The truth is there to see, it is just that some people will never accept it and others wouldn't know it if they were looking right at it.
Just saw a cloud that looked like a leprechaun today, do you consider that to be evidence of leprechauns? If not, then you have no evidence of your god either.

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Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#18 Jun 2, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
To some sceptics nothing would be good enough to prove the existence of a Creator, but to those who believe he is, it is easy to see his hand is at work throughout all of creation. What a person with faith can clearly see, a doubter would say is too vague. If we had the faith of a child, we could see a clear face looking down on us in a full moon, but a person who studies the details would look closer and only see craters and moon rocks and claim it was a delusion to see a face to begin with. Everything has a purpose for being exactly where it is and sometimes we just need to take time to look and admire the beauty of his creation and just know that he is.
No, there is plenty of evidence that would be "good enough". The problem is that it does not exist. If your god was real he could have described all sorts of scientific laws in the O.T.. He didn't. Almost all of the "science" in the OT is laughably wrong.

Striped sticks causing goats to have striped offspring. Doves blood curing leprosy. Insects with four legs. I could go on and on.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#19 Jun 2, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Just saw a cloud that looked like a leprechaun today, do you consider that to be evidence of leprechauns? If not, then you have no evidence of your god either.
That is not my point. Our Creator is an artist and just look at the beauty and wonder of all of his creation, it declares his handiwork.
FREE SERVANT

Bellevue, WA

#20 Jun 2, 2013
I have to get up at 4:30 in the morning. Talk to you all later, good night.

“I Am No One Else”

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#21 Jun 3, 2013
FREE SERVANT wrote:
<quoted text>That is not my point. Our Creator is an artist and just look at the beauty and wonder of all of his creation, it declares his handiwork.
So then you do agree that the cloud shaped like a leprechaun is proof that leprechauns are real.

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