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#247 Nov 30, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Not.
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Previously refuted.
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What blueprint?
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It is clear you are a moron troll who has never learned how to think.
You can't even keep your nonsense consistent.
You identified 4 different designers above and none of them actually DESIGN anything.
Not to mention that she considers evolution to be intelligent.

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#248 Nov 30, 2013
Evolution is a natural process and not something with intelligence.

DNA is genes. Genes code for and do not build proteins.

Evolution does not direct change to a more perfect species. Species might be more well adapted to their environments through evolution, but that does not show design. Species can diverge into two or more species due to a barrier that does not alter the particular environment on either side of the barrier. Species can diverge from the ancestral stock by occupying previously unavailable or new niches.

DarkBlue. She needed the attention.

Level 7

Since: Sep 07

Huntington Beach, CA

#250 Nov 30, 2013
DarkBlue wrote:
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Autonomous is nothing more than a man-made word. Do you think the wind and the clouds are autonomous of the designs they make in the sky? Do you think nature is autonomous in the design of each snowflake? That's right they are not. But yet each cloud is uniquely designed same as each snowflake is uniquely designed.
"cloud" "sky" and "snowflake" are also man-made words. As is "designer". In fact, everything in your post is words.

But that doesn't change the fact that a "designer" MUST be autonomous to the design.

Gravity does not "design" rock piles. Gravity EFFECTS rocks and the piles are the most efficient energy configuration for that material as a result of gravity.

However, gravity CAN NOT "design" multiple kinds of piles.

Just like the DNA of any given organism CAN NOT "design" the organism it is a part of. That DNA will _ALWAYS_ produce that organism.

If you CHANGE the DNA, then it's NOT the same DNA. It's NEW DNA and therefore can only produce whatever the NEW DNA will produce.

The DNA is not doing ANY designing. IT can only do one thing.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#252 Dec 1, 2013
DarkBlue wrote:
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Basically you have nothing. You must think the Taj Mahal and a log cabin are the same design.
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Basically you have nothing. You must think the Taj Mahal and a teepee are the same design.
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Basically you have nothing. You must think the Taj Mahal and a igloo are the same design.
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Basically you have nothing. You are in denial.
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Basically you have nothing. So you think change in shape of something doesn't change its design. Yep all clouds show the same design even though shaped differently. I guess the shape of your car still looks like the 1920's design.
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Learn the difference between refuted and disagree.
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DNA is the blueprint of life. I have given several links. Look it up yourself.
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You call me a moron troll that never learned to think. At least I learned to count. Evolution, DNA and Genes are three ways that work together to design, not four. Shape is part of the design. Function is an action.

We are not talking about houses teepees. We are talking about a natural process.

In that I have already refuted your logic.

Evolution does not design.

DNA does not design.

Genes (part of DNA) do not design.

Shape does not design.

You are dumb as a rock. And not so much because your idea is wrong, but because you won't admit it is wrong in light of the facts.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#254 Dec 2, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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I got to fire up the old 'Random Paragraph Generator' to refute this.
Let me know if you locate it. All the link I found are dead. Bummer.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#255 Dec 2, 2013
MikeF wrote:
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Let me know if you locate it. All the link I found are dead. Bummer.

Yeah, I guess we have to use a random sentence generator 3-8 times instead.

“It Is What It Is”

Level 2

Since: Jul 13

Alberta, Canada

#256 Dec 2, 2013
I see nothing but whining and complaining because you Atheists do not believe in a designer. Tooooo bad because Evolution is the designer. Your only rebuttal is man says it can't be. Life and evolution were here way before man and have always been designing before man even came around.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#257 Dec 3, 2013
DarkBlue wrote:
I see nothing but whining and complaining because you Atheists do not believe in a designer. Tooooo bad because Evolution is the designer. Your only rebuttal is man says it can't be.
No, actually, our various rebuttals to your silliness have tried to explain to you how evolution works and to point out how a process cannot be a designer. And to ask for any evidence you may think you have of a "designer."

Nothing form you but ignorant, Ray Comfort-style Christian word games.

We have also appealed to your intelligence and ability to think logically -- in VAIN, I might add.

And by the way, many of us are NOT "atheists."

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#258 Dec 3, 2013
DarkBlue wrote:
I see nothing but whining and complaining because you Atheists do not believe in a designer.
So sez the whiner and complainer.
DarkBlue wrote:
Tooooo bad because Evolution is the designer. Your only rebuttal is man says it can't be.
Yet your simply a man who says it must be. In spite of no evidence of a designer. But you're right and all of science is wrong. You betcha.
DarkBlue wrote:
Life and evolution were here way before man and have always been designing before man even came around.
Blah, blah, blah.

Go get your portable PA system out and go back to preaching on street corners.

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Since: Jan 11

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#259 Dec 3, 2013
DarkBlue wrote:
I see nothing but whining and complaining because you Atheists do not believe in a designer. Tooooo bad because Evolution is the designer. Your only rebuttal is man says it can't be. Life and evolution were here way before man and have always been designing before man even came around.
Not really surprising that you reiterate your claims with no real support except lies and ignorance. So far you have resisted all help offered. I don't see that changing anytime soon or perhaps ever.

Good luck with that.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#260 Dec 3, 2013
DarkBlue wrote:
I see nothing but whining and complaining because you Atheists do not believe in a designer. Tooooo bad because Evolution is the designer. Your only rebuttal is man says it can't be. Life and evolution were here way before man and have always been designing before man even came around.

A process cannot design.

Please start looking up words you don't know. Start with these.

1. Evolution
2. Design
3. Life
4. Atheist

You had a stupid idea and you tried to push it. See what happens?

Natural consequences.

“I am Sisyphus”

Since: Nov 07

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#261 Dec 3, 2013
Gillette wrote:
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No, actually, our various rebuttals to your silliness have tried to explain to you how evolution works and to point out how a process cannot be a designer. And to ask for any evidence you may think you have of a "designer."
Nothing form you but ignorant, Ray Comfort-style Christian word games.
We have also appealed to your intelligence and ability to think logically -- in VAIN, I might add.
And by the way, many of us are NOT "atheists."

Yeah, he is not hip on what a lot of words mean. I blame his 1st grade teacher.


“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Lakeland, FL

#262 Dec 3, 2013
Dogen wrote:
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Yeah, he is not hip on what a lot of words mean. I blame his 1st grade teacher.
Blame the English. They own the language.
howleycarter

Voorhees, NJ

#263 Dec 7, 2013
I invented intelligent design when I was in high school in a random essay A teacher gave us.. when I was 16 and never got credit or discredit for it :P
howleycarter

Voorhees, NJ

#264 Dec 7, 2013
i'm Also related to famous people.. which is feaking crazy
howleycarter

Voorhees, NJ

#265 Dec 7, 2013
on both sides..

“It Is What It Is”

Level 2

Since: Jul 13

Alberta, Canada

#266 Jan 5, 2014
Evolution is design using mutations as its working mechanism.

You say a design has to be planned,,, hogwash. Many things in this world happen from accident, chance, or mistake with out any plan at all. Evolution is the designer that uses mutations as a working mechanism. Mutations which change the design by either accident, chance, or mistake while laying out the design of the future and new generations to come.

“It Is What It Is”

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Since: Jul 13

Alberta, Canada

#267 Jan 5, 2014
This forum is full of evo-believers. So it should be easy for one of you to show a species that is not a different design and/or not more advanced than the prior species it evolved from. You say evolution is only change. Just being change can be up or down but yet you say down (devolution) is not possible. So why do you think it is possible for a monkey to evolve to a man but yet you believe it is not possible for a monkey to devolve back to a simple organism? Could it be because evolution is more than just change? It is change in design and advancement. Anything with a bad mutation that evolves down dies off and does not survive. Evolution is the designer and uses mutations as its working mechanism for advancement and newer designs better suited for survival and future advancement. Evolution designs go up, not down. Evolution produces better designs that is more advanced.

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#268 Jan 5, 2014
DarkBlue wrote:
This forum is full of evo-believers. So it should be easy for one of you to show a species that is not a different design and/or not more advanced than the prior species it evolved from. You say evolution is only change. Just being change can be up or down but yet you say down (devolution) is not possible. So why do you think it is possible for a monkey to evolve to a man but yet you believe it is not possible for a monkey to devolve back to a simple organism? Could it be because evolution is more than just change? It is change in design and advancement. Anything with a bad mutation that evolves down dies off and does not survive. Evolution is the designer and uses mutations as its working mechanism for advancement and newer designs better suited for survival and future advancement. Evolution designs go up, not down. Evolution produces better designs that is more advanced.
Since you are dissenting against accepted science the burden of proof is upon you to provide evidence to support your claim. Without this evidence your claims can be dismissed summarily.

So far all you have done is replay your claims over and over.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#269 Jan 5, 2014
DarkBlue wrote:
Evolution is design using mutations as its working mechanism.
THen who is the designer?
DarkBlue wrote:
You say a design has to be planned,,, hogwash.
Of course a design is planned by a conscious entity, by definition:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/design...

deˇsign [dih-zahyn] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to prepare the preliminary sketch or the plans for (a work to be executed), especially to plan the form and structure of: to design a new bridge.
2.
to plan and fashion artistically or skillfully.
3.
to intend for a definite purpose: a scholarship designed for foreign students.
4.
to form or conceive in the mind; contrive; plan: The prisoner designed an intricate escape.
5.
to assign in thought or intention; purpose: He designed to be a doctor.
DarkBlue wrote:
Many things in this world happen from accident, chance, or mistake with out any plan at all.
Then they are not DESIGNED,a re they? And to claim so is just to play with words.

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