T. Rex soft tissue explained

T. Rex soft tissue explained

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#1 Nov 27, 2013

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#2 Nov 27, 2013
MikeF wrote:

You mean they really are 65 million years old?!

I guess creationism remains in the crapper.
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#3 Nov 28, 2013
IT'S AN ATHEIST CONSPIRACY!!!

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#4 Nov 28, 2013
There's nothing in these reports that proves that iron can preserve soft tissue for 68 million years. Keep dreaming.

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#6 Nov 28, 2013
Clearly Eugene cannot read. I bet you didn't even understand the logic.

Logic is not your strong suit.
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#7 Nov 28, 2013
Ah, shaddap Shoob.

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#8 Nov 28, 2013
Eugene, I wouldn't trust your opinion on the time of day. Why should anyone care about the views of a proven and confirmed liar such as yourself about developments in science, a subject you have shown continuously over the years you know nothing about?
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#9 Nov 28, 2013
Shubee wrote:
There's nothing in these reports that proves that iron can preserve soft tissue for 68 million years.
My critics need to try harder.

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#10 Nov 28, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> My critics need to try harder.

Talking to yourself again?

Wackadoodle.


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#12 Nov 29, 2013
I really didn't expect religiously motivated non-scientists to respond logically to a scientific challenge but at least I'm on the record asking an essential question.

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#13 Nov 29, 2013
Shubee wrote:
I really didn't expect religiously motivated non-scientists to respond logically to a scientific challenge but at least I'm on the record asking an essential question.
Really? That would be a first on your part.

Hmm, I just read all of the posts on this thread and you did not even come close to asking an essential question. Perhaps you would like to try again.
The Dude

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#14 Nov 29, 2013
Shubee wrote:
I really didn't expect religiously motivated non-scientists to respond logically to a scientific challenge
Yup, which is why we've been waiting for you to come up with something of substance for years.
Shubee wrote:
but at least I'm on the record asking an essential question.
"Can Shoobee have new diaper?"

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#15 Nov 29, 2013
Shubee wrote:
I really didn't expect religiously motivated non-scientists to respond logically to a scientific challenge but at least I'm on the record asking an essential question.
No one really cares that you have determined how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop.

I return you to huffing your own farts.

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#16 Nov 29, 2013
Shubee wrote:
I really didn't expect religiously motivated non-scientists to respond logically to a scientific challenge but at least I'm on the record asking an essential question.

I really didn't expect religiously motivated non-scientists to respond logically to a scientific challenge but at eugene is on the record spouting nonsense that was covered in the paper.

What a retread.

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#17 Nov 29, 2013
Subduction Zone wrote:
Hmm, I just read all of the posts on this thread and you did not even come close to asking an essential question. Perhaps you would like to try again.
What proves that iron can preserve soft tissue for 68 million years?

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#18 Nov 29, 2013
Shubee wrote:
<quoted text> What proves that iron can preserve soft tissue for 68 million years?

http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/conten...

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#19 Nov 29, 2013
From the article;

Iron is necessary for survival, but it’s also highly reactive and destructive in living tissues, which is why our bodies have proteins that transport iron molecules to where they are needed but protect us from unwanted reactions at the same time. When we die, that protective mechanism breaks down and the iron is turned loose on our tissues – and "that destructive process can act in much the same way formaldehyde does to preserve the tissues and proteins."

We have a process that could cause destruction to living tissue but is reverted but when dead and the destruction is turned loose it now preserves.

If a tornado hits a house that is standing and livable it will destroy it but if it hits a pile of debris it will build a house.

Same difference.

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#20 Nov 29, 2013
Ghost and Darkness wrote:
From the article;
Iron is necessary for survival, but it’s also highly reactive and destructive in living tissues, which is why our bodies have proteins that transport iron molecules to where they are needed but protect us from unwanted reactions at the same time. When we die, that protective mechanism breaks down and the iron is turned loose on our tissues – and "that destructive process can act in much the same way formaldehyde does to preserve the tissues and proteins."
We have a process that could cause destruction to living tissue but is reverted but when dead and the destruction is turned loose it now preserves.
If a tornado hits a house that is standing and livable it will destroy it but if it hits a pile of debris it will build a house.
Same difference.
Very poor analogy. The iron isn't taking on the role of doing something improbable. It is behaving following the rules of chemistry and just happens to do something useful for us.

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#21 Nov 30, 2013
Ghost and Darkness wrote:
From the article;
Iron is necessary for survival, but it’s also highly reactive and destructive in living tissues, which is why our bodies have proteins that transport iron molecules to where they are needed but protect us from unwanted reactions at the same time. When we die, that protective mechanism breaks down and the iron is turned loose on our tissues – and "that destructive process can act in much the same way formaldehyde does to preserve the tissues and proteins."
We have a process that could cause destruction to living tissue but is reverted but when dead and the destruction is turned loose it now preserves.
If a tornado hits a house that is standing and livable it will destroy it but if it hits a pile of debris it will build a house.
Same difference.

Well that was about the worst analogy ever. Okay, more of a straw man than an analogy but still.

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