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Einstein spits at the immature braggard EvoTards

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DarwinPaul

Houston, TX

#1 Dec 7, 2013
So does CS Lewis. You trolls are nothing compared to them.

"Supposing there was no intelligence behind the universe, no creative mind. In that case, nobody designed my brain for the purpose of thinking. It is merely that when the atoms inside my skull happen, for physical or chemical reasons, to arrange themselves in a certain way, this gives me, as a by-product, the sensation I call thought. But, if so, how can I trust my own thinking to be true? It's like upsetting a milk jug and hoping that the way it splashes itself will give you a map of London. But if I can't trust my own thinking, of course I can't trust the arguments leading to Atheism, and therefore have no reason to be an Atheist, or anything else. Unless I believe in God, I cannot believe in thought: so I can never use thought to disbelieve in God."

—C.S. Lewis

Einstein who is thought to be one of the smartest men on the planet said "only a fool could not see the hand of God in the creation of the universe."

“That's just MY opinion...”

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#2 Dec 7, 2013
DarwinPaul wrote:
So does CS Lewis. You trolls are nothing compared to them.
"Supposing there was no intelligence behind the universe, no creative mind. In that case, nobody designed my brain for the purpose of thinking. It is merely that when the atoms inside my skull happen, for physical or chemical reasons, to arrange themselves in a certain way, this gives me, as a by-product, the sensation I call thought. But, if so, how can I trust my own thinking to be true? It's like upsetting a milk jug and hoping that the way it splashes itself will give you a map of London. But if I can't trust my own thinking, of course I can't trust the arguments leading to Atheism, and therefore have no reason to be an Atheist, or anything else. Unless I believe in God, I cannot believe in thought: so I can never use thought to disbelieve in God."
—C.S. Lewis
Einstein who is thought to be one of the smartest men on the planet said "only a fool could not see the hand of God in the creation of the universe."
The C.S. Lewis quotation is merely an argument from incredulity and ignorance. If you are ever able to form an opinion on your own, I hope it has a more substantial basis.

The "quotation" from Einstein is no more than a fabrication.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#3 Dec 7, 2013
DarwinPaul wrote:
So does CS Lewis. You trolls are nothing compared to them.
"Supposing there was no intelligence behind the universe, no creative mind. In that case, nobody designed my brain for the purpose of thinking. It is merely that when the atoms inside my skull happen, for physical or chemical reasons, to arrange themselves in a certain way, this gives me, as a by-product, the sensation I call thought. But, if so, how can I trust my own thinking to be true? It's like upsetting a milk jug and hoping that the way it splashes itself will give you a map of London. But if I can't trust my own thinking, of course I can't trust the arguments leading to Atheism, and therefore have no reason to be an Atheist, or anything else. Unless I believe in God, I cannot believe in thought: so I can never use thought to disbelieve in God."
—C.S. Lewis
C.S. Lewis, he's entitled to his opinion.

But you cannot teach your OPINION in science class. You teach observed fact. The observed fact is that "Creation" as literally read in Genesis is not correct.
DarwinPaul wrote:
Einstein who is thought to be one of the smartest men on the planet said "only a fool could not see the hand of God in the creation of the universe."
I looked for this Einstein quote through Google, and I was unable to find any reference to this quote whatsoever. Until you can provide a link to Einstein saying this, I brand this as a lie on your part.

But I DID find this (among other quotes attributed to Einstein) on Wikipedia:

Einstein expressed his skepticism regarding an anthropomorphic deity, often describing it as "naďve" and "childlike". He stated, "It seems to me that the idea of a personal God is an anthropological concept which I cannot take seriously. I feel also not able to imagine some will or goal outside the human sphere. My views are near those of Spinoza: admiration for the beauty of and belief in the logical simplicity of the order which we can grasp humbly and only imperfectly. I believe that we have to content ourselves with our imperfect knowledge and understanding and treat values and moral obligations as a purely human problem—the most important of all human problems."[7]

On 22 March 1954 Einstein received a letter from Joseph Dispentiere, an Italian immigrant who had worked as an experimental machinist in New Jersey. Dispentiere had declared himself an atheist and was disappointed by a news report which had cast Einstein as conventionally religious. Einstein replied on 24 March 1954:

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

<more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_... ;
DarwinPaul

Houston, TX

#4 Dec 7, 2013
MADRONE wrote:
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The C.S. Lewis quotation is merely an argument from incredulity and ignorance. If you are ever able to form an opinion on your own, I hope it has a more substantial basis.
The "quotation" from Einstein is no more than a fabrication.
EvoTards also have no answer for the logic of CS Lewis.

Einstein fabrication? Typical EvoTard lie.

The EvoTards cant stand that those indisputably and monumentally greater than any of them or the sum of them believes in a creator!

Its always fun to watch the evil smug EvoTards twist in the wind! LOL

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#5 Dec 7, 2013
DarwinPaul wrote:
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EvoTards also have no answer for the logic of CS Lewis.
Einstein fabrication? Typical EvoTard lie.
The EvoTards cant stand that those indisputably and monumentally greater than any of them or the sum of them believes in a creator!
Its always fun to watch the evil smug EvoTards twist in the wind! LOL
C.S. Lewis...his OPINION.

Your Einstein quote: a *LIE* on YOUR PART.

Prove me wrong.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#6 Dec 7, 2013
Speaking of *OPINION*, how about the opinion of Christian Clergy people?
(12,888 Christian Clergy signatures as of 12/04/13)

http://www.theclergyletterproject.org/Christi...

The Clergy Letter - from American Christian Clergy – An Open Letter Concerning Religion and Science

"Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement, including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture.

While virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith and practice, the overwhelming majority do not read the Bible literally, as they would a science textbook.

Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible – the Creation, Adam and Eve, Noah and the ark – convey timeless truths about God, human beings, and the proper relationship between Creator and creation expressed in the only form capable of transmitting these truths from generation to generation. Religious truth is of a different order from scientific truth. Its purpose is not to convey scientific information but to transform hearts.

We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist.

We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children.

We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God’s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris.

We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge.

We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth."
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#7 Dec 7, 2013
DarwinPaul wrote:
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EvoTards also have no answer for the logic of CS Lewis.
What do C.S. Lewis' logical mind games have to do with 150 years of scientific evidence that points squarely at evolution?

And is this the shallow, superficial academic Lewis who dared put out the silly logic of the Trilemma -- i.e. "Jesus was either Liar, Lunatic or Lord"? Because that "logic" was refuted and has been mocked for a LONG time. LOL

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#8 Dec 7, 2013
DarwinPaul wrote:
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EvoTards also have no answer for the logic of CS Lewis.
Einstein fabrication? Typical EvoTard lie.
The EvoTards cant stand that those indisputably and monumentally greater than any of them or the sum of them believes in a creator!
Its always fun to watch the evil smug EvoTards twist in the wind! LOL
why is it you cannot tie this quote to Einstein?

it would seem you were the one lying through your teeth..

why do you feel you have to lie to support your unfounded beliefs?
DarwinPaul

Houston, TX

#9 Dec 7, 2013
woodtick57 wrote:
<quoted text>why is it you cannot tie this quote to Einstein?
it would seem you were the one lying through your teeth..
why do you feel you have to lie to support your unfounded beliefs?
It's well known that EvoTards lie without remorse.

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#10 Dec 7, 2013
DarwinPaul wrote:
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It's well known that EvoTards lie without remorse.
I see.

But YOU'RE the one that cannot back up his own Einstein quote.

Which means you lied.
Gillette

Fairfield, IA

#11 Dec 7, 2013
And he calls US trolls? LOL!

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#12 Dec 7, 2013
DarwinPaul wrote:
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It's well known that EvoTards lie without remorse.
seems you just proved that you are the liar here...

run away now, little boy, that is what you Texans do best...
muffy

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#13 Dec 7, 2013
What a silly argument! Who cares who said what? Everyone is allowed to make mistakes even if they are the smartest person in the world! And even the dumbest person is allowed to get things right occasionally too.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#14 Dec 7, 2013
muffy wrote:
What a silly argument! Who cares who said what? Everyone is allowed to make mistakes even if they are the smartest person in the world! And even the dumbest person is allowed to get things right occasionally too.
and posting what you inow is a lie is OK? really? nice morals you have...

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#15 Dec 8, 2013
muffy wrote:
What a silly argument! Who cares who said what? Everyone is allowed to make mistakes even if they are the smartest person in the world! And even the dumbest person is allowed to get things right occasionally too.
Well muffy, you have provided a false quote from Einstein but apparently offer no apology or remorse for that. So how about learning what Einstein really said?

"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."

"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own—a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms."

"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."

All from Einstein.

He was an agnostic and the concept of God for him was merely the order manifest in the universe, not a personal Deity.

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#16 Dec 8, 2013
DarwinPaul wrote:
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It's well known that EvoTards lie without remorse.
Evolutionists have no need to lie. We have the evidence.

However, Creationists feel the need to lie about evolutionists, to support their own views, as your thread here plainly shows.

That is because you have no supporting evidence.

Why you do in fact lie, instead of actually looking at the evidence with an open mind, is what is beyond me although I suspect your cowardice at the prospect of your own death plays a large part.
muffy

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#17 Dec 8, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Well muffy, you have provided a false quote from Einstein but apparently offer no apology or remorse for that. So how about learning what Einstein really said?
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own—a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms."
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
All from Einstein.
He was an agnostic and the concept of God for him was merely the order manifest in the universe, not a personal Deity.
What are you talking about? I didn't quote anybody. I never even mentioned Einstein! Are you confusing me for someone else???

“Nihil curo de ista tua stulta ”

Since: May 08

Orlando

#18 Dec 8, 2013
muffy wrote:
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What are you talking about? I didn't quote anybody. I never even mentioned Einstein! Are you confusing me for someone else???
It seems you were defending "DarwinPaul" who DID openly lie.
muffy wrote:
What a silly argument! Who cares who said what? Everyone is allowed to make mistakes even if they are the smartest person in the world! And even the dumbest person is allowed to get things right occasionally too.
DarwinPaul did not make a "mistake".

He fabricated a quote out of thin air, and attributed this quote to Einstein.

He lied.

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#19 Dec 8, 2013
Chimney1 wrote:
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Well muffy, you have provided a false quote from Einstein but apparently offer no apology or remorse for that. So how about learning what Einstein really said?
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own—a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotisms."
"The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish."
All from Einstein.
He was an agnostic and the concept of God for him was merely the order manifest in the universe, not a personal Deity.
All the above for the benefit of the liar DarwinPaul.

Muffy, if you want to run with dogs, claiming you are only a poodle is no defence.
muffy

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#20 Dec 9, 2013
Kong_ wrote:
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It seems you were defending "DarwinPaul" who DID openly lie.
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DarwinPaul did not make a "mistake".
He fabricated a quote out of thin air, and attributed this quote to Einstein.
He lied.
I want defending him! I was saying you were all having a silly argument about nothing. Like who cares what Einstein said or Lewis said? Does it matter? This whole thread is stupid.

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