An evolutionary parable.
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Evolutionisstupi d

Israel

#1 Jun 7, 2014
Little Red Riding Hood took off her clothes and got into bed. She was greatly amazed to see how her grandmother looked in her nightclothes, and said to her, "Grandmother, what big arms you have!"

"All the better to hug you with, my dear."

"Grandmother, what big legs you have!"

"All the better to run with, my child."

"Grandmother, what big ears you have!"

"All the better to hear with, my child."

"Grandmother, what big eyes you have!"

"All the better to see with, my child."

"Grandmother, what big teeth you have got!"

"All the better to eat you up with."
The Dude

Birkenhead, UK

#2 Jun 9, 2014
Ah shaddap, Stupid.
Evolutionisstupi d

Israel

#3 Jun 9, 2014
The Dude wrote:
Ah shaddap, Stupid.
Doth my memory deceive me or have I already likened you to Daffy? Makes me wonder if that was intentional.

“Pissing people off since 1949”

Level 8

Since: Apr 08

Seffner, FL

#4 Jun 9, 2014
When you have nothing else to offer, spam the forum.
Evolutionisstupi d

Israel

#5 Jun 13, 2014
It isn't spam. I'm not surprised that the point flew right past your heads.

These are the sort of explanations evolution proponents provide for the existence of...pretty much anything.

X is in existence? Well, it's there because it helps us Y better. No regard for the actual reason it is there, just a silly and glib explanation.
The brain has evolved to process complex problems? Simple. It's gotten to be that way because it was to its evolutionary benefit. See how I managed to completely skirt the issue? Let's try this with more things. This is kind of fun.

Why do we have fingernails? Well, fingernails can be used as a slashing weapon and may ward off other organisms. Clearly, natural selection would select for it.

Hair...it made the organism more alluring to the other sex. Hence, increased reproductive value.

Why do we like shiny things? Because shiny things are rare, which promotes struggle due to scarcity. To win such struggles, you must be a pretty strong creature. At least, relative to the ones you're struggling against. Par for the course, the stronger organisms ultimately survived longer, becoming our ancestors.

What else...let's see...

Why do we believe in god? This should be a good one.

Belief in god unites the population by inducing belief in a common cause. This is very useful for survival, as a cohesive civilization survives longer than non cohesive ones.

Here's a challenge to any of you. Name a feature we possess. Hell, name a feature we MIGHT possess in the future. See if I can't find an evolutionary benefit for it. I'll be your just so story teller for the evening.

Affinity for clothes? Mystery is an attractive trait. Sexual benefit.
Nudists? Take a guess. Sexual benefit.

Violent proclivities? Wards off threats with the promise of danger. Survival benefit due to fitness.

Peace loving beings? Unlikely to get in danger. Survival benefit.

Video game attraction? Getting lost in a virtual world satisfy the basic need for adventure. Adventure is often interwoven with danger. Survival.

Unlikely to engage in non reality related activities? Gets you better acquainted with the workings of the world. Better chance of learning to survive better. Better chance at reproducing.

Color blind? This is a tough one. Hmm.... Got it. Makes for a good conversation topic. Nets you more friends, maybe even a mate. Power in numbers. Reproductive benefit.

Affinity for the same sex? This might be the only sort of trait that wouldn't get you anywhere as far as propagating your genes is concerned.

So...have at it. Name something.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#6 Jun 13, 2014
Stupid, you cannot debunk evolution with idiotic strawman arguments.
Evolutionisstupi d

Israel

#7 Jun 13, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
Stupid, you cannot debunk evolution with idiotic strawman arguments.
I don't suppose you can tell me how this was a strawman argument.

Level 9

Since: Sep 08

Everett, WA

#8 Jun 13, 2014
Evolutionisstupid wrote:
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I don't suppose you can tell me how this was a strawman argument.
That is the kindest term that can be applied to your nonsense. It has nothing to do with how evolution actually works. That is why it is a strawman. You can only debunk evolution by using actual claims made by the theory of evolution.

Just as the Bible can easily be debunked by using the Bible itself. If an idea is wrong there are usually several ways to show that it is wrong.
Evolutionisstupi d

Israel

#9 Jun 13, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
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That is the kindest term that can be applied to your nonsense. It has nothing to do with how evolution actually works. That is why it is a strawman. You can only debunk evolution by using actual claims made by the theory of evolution.
Just as the Bible can easily be debunked by using the Bible itself. If an idea is wrong there are usually several ways to show that it is wrong.
You definitely have a reading comprehension problem.

Only a few of the claims I made are actually made by evolutionary theory. Indirectly at that.

What I am addressing is how evolutionists often speak of the reasons for the traits we possess in evolutionary terms, explaining emotions and so on as some tools used by evolution to propagate the species better. Just because you are incapable of thought does not mean that I am creating a misrepresentation of the theory.
LGK

Chester, UK

#10 Jun 13, 2014
Evolutionisstupid wrote:
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You definitely have a reading comprehension problem.
Only a few of the claims I made are actually made by evolutionary theory. Indirectly at that.
What I am addressing is how evolutionists often speak of the reasons for the traits we possess in evolutionary terms, explaining emotions and so on as some tools used by evolution to propagate the species better. Just because you are incapable of thought does not mean that I am creating a misrepresentation of the theory.
Why do we accept evolution. It helps us explain origins without invoking a deity so we can dispense with fear of judgement. This improves our general health so we live to pass on our genes.

Why do reject evolution. It helps us explain origins by invoking a deity so have hope. This improves our general health so we live to pass on our genes.

Evolution explains everything, opposites & all. It doesn't matter if it quakes, it evolved & if doesn't quake it also evolved. I don't like calling theories stupid but who can resist? Evolutionism is total nonsense. You are right Mr Evolutionisstupid
Evolutionisstupi d

Israel

#11 Jun 13, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
<quoted text>
That is the kindest term that can be applied to your nonsense. It has nothing to do with how evolution actually works. That is why it is a strawman. You can only debunk evolution by using actual claims made by the theory of evolution.
Just as the Bible can easily be debunked by using the Bible itself. If an idea is wrong there are usually several ways to show that it is wrong.
The poster above actually gave me an idea. You did not accept the challenge, but I'll pretend you did.

Reading comprehension issues can bestow on the reader a liberty to insert his own faulty logic into the text, thus providing him with an ego boost. Organisms with higher self appreciation are more outgoing and are more likely to mate because of this. Sexual selection.(?)

I feel like Shao Kahn from Mortal Kombat.
wondering

Morris, OK

#12 Jun 13, 2014
you have left the x-men and now on to the little red riding hood story for a parable to evolution. i don't understand how you can not see the foolishness here. evolution is real and if you want a parable, trying using something real instead of a fictional movie character or a children's story.
Evolutionisstupi d

Israel

#13 Jun 13, 2014
Subduction Zone wrote:
Stupid, you cannot debunk evolution with idiotic strawman arguments.
The reason we insult each other is because, in the past, insults were a prelude to war. Those who weathered these wars were more likely to reproduce due to the sexual advantage of valor and strength and thus were more likely to live through progeny who would be equally as tough.

Women insult each other because, often, they too would get in disputes and it was more likely than not the one who could hurl the most insults that would be seen as dominant, attracting males' attention and asserting her position as a female whom you should not cross.

Interesting facts, no? Especially since I made them up. But that's how you do things in evolutionary musings.
Evolutionisstupi d

Israel

#14 Jun 13, 2014
wondering wrote:
you have left the x-men and now on to the little red riding hood story for a parable to evolution. i don't understand how you can not see the foolishness here. evolution is real and if you want a parable, trying using something real instead of a fictional movie character or a children's story.
Whether something is fictional or not has no bearing whatsoever.
Those lines from little red ridinghood simply reminded me of evolutionary reasoning. Even if evolution is real as it is currently thought of, glib and stupid explanations are still glib and stupid. Not to mention insanely speculative and borderline thoughtless.
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#15 Jun 13, 2014
LGK wrote:
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Evolution explains everything, opposites & all. It doesn't matter if it quakes, it evolved & if doesn't quake it also evolved. I don't like calling theories stupid but who can resist? Evolutionism is total nonsense. You are right Mr Evolutionisstupid
No, evolution only explains biodiversity.
The only thing what matters are the treats that enhance survival and reproduction chances.
All other things, like quaking and not-quaking, will not evolve.
Senseless tattle addressing nothing. In any case NOT evolution.
HENCE, next time address evolution, OK?
Next tattle.
wondering

Morris, OK

#16 Jun 13, 2014
evolution has been good to the dog. it can lick its own privates and in licking wounds, with the help of the enzyme lysozyme, it does help speed the healing. we humans only got we can piss on our feet to help combat athletes foot. i think evolution gave us a raw deal!(of course i am talking natural ability)
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#17 Jun 13, 2014
Evolutionisstupid wrote:
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The reason we insult each other is because, in the past, insults were a prelude to war. Those who weathered these wars were more likely to reproduce due to the sexual advantage of valor and strength and thus were more likely to live through progeny who would be equally as tough.
Women insult each other because, often, they too would get in disputes and it was more likely than not the one who could hurl the most insults that would be seen as dominant, attracting males' attention and asserting her position as a female whom you should not cross.
Interesting facts, no? Especially since I made them up. But that's how you do things in evolutionary musings.
HENCE, "proving" that evolution doesn't make sense by invoking own random tattle that is completely unrelated to evolution.

Ah, yes.....
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#18 Jun 13, 2014
Evolutionisstupid wrote:
<quoted text>
The poster above actually gave me an idea. You did not accept the challenge, but I'll pretend you did.
Reading comprehension issues can bestow on the reader a liberty to insert his own faulty logic into the text, thus providing him with an ego boost. Organisms with higher self appreciation are more outgoing and are more likely to mate because of this. Sexual selection.(?)
I feel like Shao Kahn from Mortal Kombat.
Next tattle.
NEXT TIME ADDRESS EVOLUTION, OK?
TurkanaBoy

Since: May 14

the Earth Clod

#19 Jun 13, 2014
Evolutionisstupid wrote:
It isn't spam. I'm not surprised that the point flew right past your heads.
These are the sort of explanations evolution proponents provide for the existence of...pretty much anything.
X is in existence? Well, it's there because it helps us Y better. No regard for the actual reason it is there, just a silly and glib explanation.
The brain has evolved to process complex problems? Simple. It's gotten to be that way because it was to its evolutionary benefit. See how I managed to completely skirt the issue? Let's try this with more things. This is kind of fun.
Why do we have fingernails? Well, fingernails can be used as a slashing weapon and may ward off other organisms. Clearly, natural selection would select for it.
Hair...it made the organism more alluring to the other sex. Hence, increased reproductive value.
Why do we like shiny things? Because shiny things are rare, which promotes struggle due to scarcity. To win such struggles, you must be a pretty strong creature. At least, relative to the ones you're struggling against. Par for the course, the stronger organisms ultimately survived longer, becoming our ancestors.
What else...let's see...
Why do we believe in god? This should be a good one.
Belief in god unites the population by inducing belief in a common cause. This is very useful for survival, as a cohesive civilization survives longer than non cohesive ones.
Here's a challenge to any of you. Name a feature we possess. Hell, name a feature we MIGHT possess in the future. See if I can't find an evolutionary benefit for it. I'll be your just so story teller for the evening.
Affinity for clothes? Mystery is an attractive trait. Sexual benefit.
Nudists? Take a guess. Sexual benefit.
Violent proclivities? Wards off threats with the promise of danger. Survival benefit due to fitness.
Peace loving beings? Unlikely to get in danger. Survival benefit.
Video game attraction? Getting lost in a virtual world satisfy the basic need for adventure. Adventure is often interwoven with danger. Survival.
Unlikely to engage in non reality related activities? Gets you better acquainted with the workings of the world. Better chance of learning to survive better. Better chance at reproducing.
Color blind? This is a tough one. Hmm.... Got it. Makes for a good conversation topic. Nets you more friends, maybe even a mate. Power in numbers. Reproductive benefit.
Affinity for the same sex? This might be the only sort of trait that wouldn't get you anywhere as far as propagating your genes is concerned.
So...have at it. Name something.
WHERE is evolution theory in this tattle?
NEXT TIME YOU ADDRESS EVOLUTION, DON'T YOU?
Evolutionisstupi d

Israel

#20 Jun 13, 2014
TurkanaBoy wrote:
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HENCE, "proving" that evolution doesn't make sense by invoking own random tattle that is completely unrelated to evolution.
Ah, yes.....
No, some of it is related to evolution, like the absurd explanations given for eyes and brains.
Some, and what this topic is mostly about, is related to ridiculous evolutionary explanations of some of the mental traits we posses. You don't need to prove that those don't make sense. They're self evidently laughable.

Also, clearly, evolution does not make sense to me because if it did, I would become despondent
and despondent people tend to care about things less, thus making me less likely to survive.

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