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Philippines Seeks Experts' Help To Restore Churches Damaged By Earthquake

There are 112 comments on the Malaysian National News Agency story from Oct 17, 2013, titled Philippines Seeks Experts' Help To Restore Churches Damaged By Earthquake. In it, Malaysian National News Agency reports that:

The Philippine government has invited foreign experts to help in restoring historical churches in central provinces of Bohol and Cebu damaged in a recent earthquake, Xinhua news agency reported.

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heressssssss kenny

General Trias, Philippines

#45 Nov 26, 2013
Kiwi Thumper wrote:
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fcuk heressssssssssssssssssssssss fatso see still depending on that worn out keyboard off yours and your fcuking posts make fcuking sence but hey we all can see we are dealing with a real dickhead who fcuks off to a shit hole that has no resources to help its own people
hahahha a speech from a toilet cleaning ,ladyboy loving bus riding retard -bwhahahahahahha -still living i your ex-mother in laws garden shed humper ???.lol

Since: Nov 13

Riverside, CA

#46 Nov 29, 2013
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INCristo!!! Or Iglesia ni Cristo, the Restored first-century Church of Christ!!! The "other sheep' of Christ undergoing renewal as the New Man, the truly Born Again!!!
Real Elias Ibarra
John 10:26-30
[26] But you do not believe, because you are not of my sheep.[27] My sheep hear my voice: and I know them, and they follow me.[28] And I give them life everlasting; and they shall not perish for ever, and no man shall pluck them out of my hand.[29] That which my Father hath given me, is greater than all: and no one can snatch them out of the hand of my Father.[30] I and the Father are one.

[27 explained] "My sheep hear my voice: and I know them, and they follow me." Jesus knows them who follow him as God but not as man. INC follow Felix Manalo.
[30 explained] I and the Father are one: That is, one divine nature, but two distinct persons.

Christ is the door and the good shepherd. He and his Father are one.

John 10:1
[1] Amen, amen I say to you: He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up another way, the same is a thief and a robber.[2] But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.[3] To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.[4] And when he hath let out his own sheep, he goeth before them: and the sheep follow him, because they know his voice.[5] But a stranger they follow not, but fly from him, because they know not the voice of strangers.

[1 explained] "but climbeth up another way" - this is the Felix Manalo way (the song 'MY WAY')
[5 explained] "But a stranger they follow..." the stranger is Felix Manalo.

[6] This proverb Jesus spoke to them. But they understood not what he spoke to them.[7] Jesus therefore said to them again: Amen, amen I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.[8] All others, as many as have come, are thieves and robbers: and the sheep heard them not.[9] I am the door. By me, if any man enter in, he shall be saved: and he shall go in, and go out, and shall find pastures.[10] The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I am come that they may have life, and may have it more abundantly.

[10 explained] "The thief cometh not, but to steal..." the Iglesia Ni Manalo aka Cristo is the thief that steals weak Catholics to join them and kill their chances of salvation and the INC cometh to destroy the Catholic Church.

[11] I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd giveth his life for his sheep.[12] But the hireling, and he that is not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and flieth: and the wolf catcheth, and scattereth the sheep:[13] And the hireling flieth, because he is a hireling: and he hath no care for the sheep.[14] I am the good shepherd; and I know mine, and mine know me.[15] As the Father knoweth me, and I know the Father: and I lay down my life for my sheep.

[16] And other sheep I have, that are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice, and there shall be one fold and one shepherd.[17] Therefore doth the Father love me: because I lay down my life, that I may take it again.[18] No man taketh it away from me: but I lay it down of myself, and I have power to lay it down: and I have power to take it up again. This commandment have I received of my Father.[19] A dissension rose again among the Jews for these words.[20] And many of them said: He hath a devil, and is mad: why hear you him?

[John 10:21] Others said: These are not the words of one that hath a devil: Can a devil open the eyes of the blind?

Since: Nov 13

Riverside, CA

#48 Jan 14, 2014
Since KABAYAN KO, KAPATID KO a project of the Iglesia Ni Cristo:
1. Introduction to the Iglesia Ni Cristo.
2. Our Beliefs.
3. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs).
4. Convert Stories.
5. Events & Activities.
6. Places of Worship.
If you have any questions about the beliefs of the Iglesia Ni Cristo, the ministers near your residence would be very glad to help you.
a native who has witnessed the delusion speak
• Members of the Iglesia Ni Cristo, unlike the rest of us Filipinos, are not allowed to think for themselves when it comes to interpretation of the Bible.
• They must submit to the official interpretation of Scripture from the Central Administration of the Iglesia Ni Cristo.
• If any member disagrees with the interpretation of the Scriptures as taught by the Central Administration of the Iglesia Ni Cristo, they are cast out and told they are damned into the flames of hell. This is a frightening and extremely traumatic experience, so devastating to a person's life, employment, and careers, few can escape and live a normal life.
• The force by which members of INC are intimidated to stay in the membership is tremendous, especially those who are second, third, and fourth generation. By now they are brainwashed in the cult's teachings and convinced they are in the true Church of Christ.
• Membership in this group has increased in recent years due to the lack of public information that would exposed the INC as a cult group and its doctrine and teachings non-biblical.
• The internet may serve as the only means a person can find information about the cult they are in and doctrinal information that may set their minds free from the religious bondage associated with INC.
• Many feel scared and threatened by the manner the group is held so tightly in the grip of such few men and women of power. Add to this religious fear that there may be a hit squad (religious mafia), authorized to enact the death penalty upon those who depart, and members become prisoners of conscience in a nation where there is supposed to be freedom of religion by all citizens protected by the government.
• In the Philippines it is well known that different levels of government have given the INC use of military, police, and other enforcement bodies the power to persecute, arrest, and abuse anyone who openly opposes INC.
• The infiltration of the Philippine government by INC members on all levels makes it dangerous to confront the false doctrines being taught in INC churches.
• INC does not like other religious groups trying to convert its members. Splinter groups of INC and their leaders are constantly harassed, threatened, and openly abused by government agencies. It is reported that the INC has infiltrated employment positions containing power and authority on all levels of the Philippine government & used their positions for the benefit and power of INC staff and leaders.
•While there may not be wide-spread executions and death squads searching for fleeing members of INC or those who publicly disagree with INC policy and doctrines, just one such case of torture, beheading, burning and killing, the knowledge of which is spread from province to province, is enough to keep members and dissenters not question practices of INC or its doctrines.
•Anyone who challenges the INC is currently in danger of limb, body, and life!
•That is why such writings as this must be done anonymously so as to escape retaliation and maybe death.
•When any religion has a licence to eradicate whom it will, the world is not safe and there will be no people who have a free conscience and the liberty of free speech.
•Such religion deserves to be wiped out and all property confiscated.
•When any religion needs or uses the power of civil government to enact penalties against dissenters, it is no longer religious.

Since: Nov 13

Riverside, CA

#49 Jan 14, 2014
Unbiblical Beliefs of Felix angel and INC
• Believe Jesus returned in some manner to set up his end time church on July 27, 1914, the INC was founded as the Church of Christ. If asked by an INC member what other Church was born on the day Jesus returned, the answer will be none. Aha they will say, this proves Felix angel is the last messenger and the Iglesia Ni Cristo is the true Church. But wait! Did Jesus return on July 27, 1914?
• Believe that the Jehovah's Witnesses were right, Jesus returned to earth in 1914, and this is the year Jesus re-activated his Church, the Iglesia Ni Cristo by the agency of Felix angel, the angel of Rev. 7:2-3.
• Believe Jesus is not God, only a man created by God: Manalo said Jesus was no more God than he was.
• Believe that Jesus being a man needed salvation also and saved himself by the merits of his own death, the same merits that saved others.
• Believe the Holy Spirit is not God, but a created spirit-being sent by God.
• Believes the Word of John 1:1 and 1:14 is the mind or foreknowledge of God about Jesus but when it says "God was the Word, or the Word was God" this is false.
• Believes Jesus, a created man, must be worshiped as God, because the Father said so.
• Believes the Church of Matthew 16:18 is the Iglesia Ni Cristo denomination which Felix Manalo allegedly restored because he discovered the Catholic Church and all other Protestant groups were of the devil.
• Believe a person must hear the Gospel from Central Administration and an INC minister only.
• Believe a person must be a member of only an INC church, membership in any other will send a soul to the flames of hell.
• Believe a person must accept and believe what is preached in an INC church, or they cannot be saved.
• Believe salvation is only found in the INC denomination.
• Believe the INC churches can save just as much as Christ saves.
• Believe the INC church is the only one with the Holy Spirit in it, which Holy Spirit is not God but some other created spirit being sent to help members understand the Bible.
• Believe the Biblical name of the Christian Church is "Iglesia Ni Cristo" while other names are false.
• Believes the official Biblical name of the church is "Iglesia ni Cristo" while other names are not (did not know the words "Iglesia Ni Cristo" are not Aramaic or Hebrew and cannot be the ORIGINAL words or name of the New Testament Church).
• Believes baptisms are only valid if performed by a minister of INC.
• Believes baptisms can be performed invoking the titles Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
• Believes in Acts 2:38 baptism for the remission of sins, but denies baptisms are to be into the name of Jesus Christ, rather interpreting "in" (EIS) to mean by the authority of Jesus Christ.
• Believe in "no name" baptismal formula: meaning they do not believe it is essential to invoke the titles Father, Son, or Holy Spirit; or the name of Jesus Christ over a baptismal candidate for the act to be valid. Baptism can be done with nothing said or repeated to or over the baptismal candidate.
• Believe a person must obey all church rules. Church rules have the effect of being the Word of God by being an abridgment to the New Testament Cannon, and commanded of God for salvation because Felix angel said so. INC officials have the authority to make God accept their adopted or revised rules as essential elements of salvation (they can make up salvation as they go along).
• Believe Church members should not belong to labor unions.
• Believe it is ok for members and officials to have membership in secret societies such as the Masonic lodge.
• Believe Church attendance is compulsory and if a person is not faithful they should be excluded from Communion.
• Believe all members should give demanded offerings or be excluded from church activities and religious worship.

Since: Nov 13

Riverside, CA

#50 Jan 14, 2014
Continuation about Unbiblical Beliefs of Felix angel and INC:(part 2)
• Believe good deeds and works specified by the INC are salvational and add to one’s safety and chance to have eternal life. Those who refuse to do these INC good deeds and works are damned into the flames of hell.
• Believe members should not eat "dinuguan" (pork blood stew with pork meat and other spices). They cite no scripture.
• Believe Christmas is pagan, more so because of being anti-Catholic, but celebrate the pagan new year’s eve with great ceremony, pomp, and parade. INC never tells its members that it was Pope Gregory who changed the date of the New Year from the month of March to the first day of the month named after the Roman god Janus (god of time and opener and closer of doors).
• Believe members should avoid court actions against other members, but court actions against non-member is acceptable.
• Believe the Church has the right to tell its members how to vote and members are expected to vote exactly how the Church tells them (block voting to control elections and election outcome).
• Believe a person can take Communion only if they are paid up. If a person is not paid up they can buy their salvation and the ransom of their souls by putting cash into the Church in those offerings they have missed. With these cash offerings they are allowed to take Communion and buy their salvation.
• Believes Felix Y. Manalo is the fulfillment of Isaiah 43:5-7 (bring thy seed from the east is not the Israelites to whom Isaiah wrote, but Manalo claims this is the Philippine people in his Iglesia Ni Cristo Church; those called by "my name" Manalo means the name "Christian" although God was speaking of his own name); 46:11 (the ravenous (unclean) bird is Manalo, and "east" here is said to mean the "far east" or the Philippine Islands); and Rev. 7:2-3 prophecies (the angel ascending is Felix Y. Manalo and he, by the preaching and acceptance of his doctrine are sealed in their forehead, that is their mind. Thus the members of the INC churches are sealed by Manalo to be the people of God saved out of the tribulation time). Yet Manalo was a pre-trib rapture believer, holding that the church, his Iglesia Ni Cristo, will not see or suffer tribulation but will be quick-snatched as taught in the dispensationalism of John Darby, Clarence Larkin, and C.I. Scofield.
• Believes in a pre-trib any second rapture (this false doctrine scares INC members to stay in their cult, being told there is salvation no where else).
• Believes the millennial as found in Revelation 20 as a literal 1,000 years is false. Manalo and INC do not believe in the millennial. They spiritualize the millennial to be the church age of Iglesia Ni Cristo.
• Believe in soul sleep when a person dies: that is a person's soul upon death dies and there is no consciousness, and the soul is resurrected with the body at the coming of Jesus (stolen from the doctrine of the Seventh Day Adventists Church and women preacher Ellen G. White).
• Believe the modern receiving the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues is of the devil.
• Believe speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance as in Acts 2:4, ceased in the life-time of the Apostles and is not to be continued after the first century.
• Believe all the gifts of the Spirit are abolished and ended as a result of the finish writing of the Bible and the collection of such into one volume called the Cannon of Scripture.
• Believe the casting out of demons is not possible or available today and those who practice casting out demons are of the devil.
• Believe miracles of healing and deliverance are all of the devil, that these ceased and ended when the Bible was fully a completed book.
• Believe Felix Manalo is the Shepherd of John 10:16. He is the one to go bring sheep not of the fold and bring them in. These sheep not of the fold are the Philippine people and those the INC will win from different Gentile nations.

Since: Nov 13

Riverside, CA

#51 Jan 15, 2014
Continuation about Unbiblical Beliefs of Felix angel and INC:(part 3)

• Believe Felix Manalo is the seven (angel) church age messenger of Revelation 10:7. It would be Felix Manalo then who would finalize all doctrine, faith, and practice and after his finished work no one would have authority in matters of salvation but the Iglesia Ni Cristo church.
• Believe Felix Manalo is the messenger of the covenant of Malachi 3:1.
• Believe in several forced offerings and object to tithing, claiming tithing was under the law and a person is obligated to give more under the New Testament.
• Believe the name of the Church according to the New Testament is "Iglesia Ni Cristo" when in fact this name is not found in the Bible at all! The nearest a person will find to this is in Romans 16:16 "Churches of Christ". Here "Churches" is plural and is the collective group of congregations and not one organization. This "Churches of Christ" was never intended to mean or was used by the Apostles to be the name of the New Testament Church. Elsewhere the Church is called the "Church of God" (Acts 20:28); "My Church" (Matthew 16:18); "Church of the living God"(1 Tim 3:15); "Church of the firstborn" (Heb 12:23); "Church of the Laodiceans" (Col 4:16, Rev 3:14); "Church of the Thessalonians" (1Thes 1:1); and "Church of Ephesus" (Rev 2:1). Manalo was a deceiver about the name of the New Testament Church. The word "Church" is the Greek "ekklesia" Strongs 1577 and means: "called out ones, a congregation, a synagogue, an assembly, and a community of members." In Romans 16:16 the word "Churches" refers to the congregations plural with whom Paul was Minister and Apostle. These were the Gentile Churches who saluted the Roman Gentile Church, all being grafted branches into the Olive Tree original Jewish Church. These Gentile branch Churches were NOT THE ORIGINAL JEWISH CHURCH of Jerusalem, but of the same body by grafting in. Manalo thinks he can deceive the Philippine people that his Iglesia Ni Cristo is the original Jewish Church and he has restored that: when in fact, he has a Gentile Philippine Church that has no connection to the New Testament Olive Tree body at all. He is not connected to it by doctrine of salvation, by water baptism, or by name! His false doctrines on salvation, the name of the Church, the formula and practice of baptism, his denial of Holy Spirit baptism as the first Church had in Acts 2:4, his claim of being the Christ-Shepherd of John 10:16, a Messias (according to court records of his fornication with girls and women), a prophet like unto the old prophets, and the ravenous unclean bird, all go to expose him as a charlton, a fraud, a wolf-man who has deceived many sheep; and last,...he is a Judas! He betrayed his own people for their cash and deceived them to believe Jesus was no more God then he was.
• Believe Manalo's private interpretations and accept his rejection of the King James Version being authoritative, seeking out any perversion translation that might prove his heresies true.
• Believe the Catholic Church is of the devil and the pope is the antichrist, yet Manalo did not see himself as a quasi-pope of INC.
• Believe the Seventh Day Adventists (SDA) Church is of the devil and Ellen G. White was false on Sabbath keeping (The Great Controversy).

Since: Nov 13

Riverside, CA

#52 Jan 15, 2014
Continuation about Unbiblical Beliefs of Felix angel and INC:(part 4)
• Believe the Church of Christ (USA doctrine type) and the Disciples of Christ (Christian Church) are of the devil. Manalo was however successful to take the large number of Christ of Christ (American style) and members of the Disciples of Christ and convert them to his antichrist religion. This allowed him fast growth not needing to make converts of sinners to enlarge his organization. By conversion of Ministers of these groups he there was no need to educate, train, or financially support new ones. His conversions gave him a ready income source of medium to wealthy individuals who pumped in the pesos by the billions. With insider connections and power, faithful church members were selected and given employments by other Iglesisa Ni Cristo members in positions where they refused to hire non Iglesia Ni Cristo candidates. This practice is used even in governmental hiring where there are individuals in power position who make policy and final decisions on hiring. When two people are candidates of equal education and experience, the job will fall to the one who is a member of the Iglesia Ni Cristo Church. This not only allows members jobs and positions others do not have available to them, it guarantees the church bigger offerings and enormous cash flow increases. Many Filipinos know this and so they join the Church for the financial doors that will be opened to them. Business owners join to expand their influence and capture more market share, even to obtain loans from banks where other Iglesia Ni Cristo members hold positions and authority to float business opportunity loans.
• Believe Felix Manalo was ordained to subdue kings and with a sword turn them to dust (Iglesia claims Manalo fulfills Isaiah 41:2). No one shows he did this.
• Believe God took hold of Manalo's hand as found in Isaiah 41:13.
• Believe Manalo was to thresh the mountains and crush them and reduce them to chaff as found in Isaiah 41:15
• Believe the fifth angel crying to the first four angels and rising from the east in Revelation 7:2-3 is Felix Manalo rising to power in a restored Church in the Philippines.
• Believe Manalo as the fifth angel is the one to seal the servants of God, his new cadre of Ministers with the seal of God and these Ministers will in turn seal other converts and members of Iglesia Ni Cristo. Actually the fifth angel does have a seal but tells the first four angels not to hurt the earth til "WE HAVE SEALED THE SERVANTS OF GOD IN THEIR FOREHEAD. We can now uncover the deception of Manalo, when he claims it is the ordained Ministers of INC who will do the sealing of the servants. The text says five angels will do the sealing. As we read further we discover the sealing is of 144,000 of the tribes of Israel and not of a Gentile Philippine Church membership. Manalo never did prove the 144,000 were servants of Iglesia Ni Cristo and these Philippine sealed could trace their ancestry back to the twelve tribes.
• Believe the words "angel and angels" in the Revelation text refers to a man or men, and not spirit beings of the heavenly realm. Their argument is that the word is symbolic and that not all angels wear wings. Of course we know this, there being two angels who came to the tent of Abraham with Adonai, they did not have wings. There are other visitations of angels without wings. To claim these were men and not heavenly beings borders in insanity. For ministers and members of INC to make this argument shows they are not honest and they are willing to pervert to have it their way.

Since: Nov 13

Riverside, CA

#53 Jan 15, 2014
Continuation about Unbiblical Beliefs of Felix angel and INC:(part 5)
• Believe the appearance of Felix Manalo at the time of World War I was predicted by prophecy: They quote Matthew 24:6-7 and piggyback this to Revelation 6:12-15, claiming the troops hiding in fox holes was the prediction of men hiding in caves and the rocks of the mountains. How devious and lying can a man get. The Revelation 6:15 text concerns the actions of men at the appearing of our Great God and Saviour Jesus Christ at his second advent. This text has nothing to do with war and men hiding in fox holes to escape enemy bullets. Manalo and his followers then try to piggyback Revelation 7:2-3 and Manalo as the fifth angel to their erroneous interpretation.
• Believe that since Christ is the head of the Church in Eph 5:23, the Church should then be named Christ, thus Church of Christ or Iglesia Ni Cristo. Fact of the matter is, Christ is a title and an office of Jesus in Messianic prophecy concerning the seed of David (Daniel 9:25). To be scriptually correct Jesus was never called the Greek title Christ in his life time. This was applied when the Hebrew word Messieh was translated into Greek. Manalo did not recover the name of Christ for that name is JESUS! We know this because this is the name given to him at birth and carried down from heaven on the lips of an angel (Luke 1:31). To be scriptually correct the name of Christ is Jesus and this is the name of his body. Felix angel was a little nuts to claim the name of the body was the Greek Christ without reference to his name Jesus. Should we apply the name of the body (Jesus), to the Church we would then have its name as Church of Jesus Christ or Iglesia Ni Hesus Cristo, or something on that order. We can say, the Church was not named after a Greek title that was not the name of Jesus during his life time when he set up and established the Church. In the name on the churches of Iglesia Ni Cristo the saving name JESUS is never ADVERTISED. No Iglesia Ni Cristo Church has the name of JESUS upon the body of it on the inside or the outside as its identity. Manalo again used deception and his followers and ministers continue that evil. Felix angel was blind as a bat and the succussion of leaders are following the blind and all will fall into the ditch of destruction.
• Believe in Acts 20:28 the words "Church of God" should be translated "Church of Christ" or Iglesia Ni Cristo. Manalo and other INC ministers cannot document this "Church of Christ" from the original Greek text, so they found salvation for their false doctrine and perversion of the Greek text by claiming the translation of George M. Lamsa of the Aramaic is correct. The fact is, Lamsa claims the New Testament was completely written in Aramaic and he was wrong. Scholars believe Matthew was written in Hebrew, Mark was written in Greek or Hebrew, John was written in Greek or Hebrew, but Luke, Acts Corinthians and the Greek letters are in Greek, Romans in Latin, and so forth. Lamsa's claim of Aramaic is simply false. It is possible all the Gospels but Matthew were written in Greek. Acts was written by a Greek named Luke and we have no proof he could even read or speak Hebrew. The text then in Acts 20:28 should carry its weight in Greek and not as Lamsa renders from the Peshitta Aramaic.

Since: Nov 13

Riverside, CA

#54 Jan 15, 2014
Will it be possible to convert many INC members away from the falsehood of Felix angel's false doctrines?
• My personal opinion is that there will not be many conversions. Why? Because the Word of God tells us many will believe lies and be damned.
• Most members of the INC have the mentality of Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses and are there because they want to believe Felix angel's lies and they do not care to prove he was a false prophet and an immoral fornicator and rapist.
• These are those who love the ritual of religion and INC gives them an alternative to the Catholic Church. It does not matter to them which deceptions they follow, they are not going to live holy with either choice.
• INC in its holiness is no better than the Catholic Church.
• There is no difference in the worldly mindset of members of INC then there is in the mindset of a Hindu or Buddhist.
• Once a person trods underfoot the Word of God and brings Christ to an open shame, they have crucified to themselves the Son of God afresh and there is no salvation for them.
• Why then is this page on the internet? It is for the elect, the true Church of the Living God who want information on cults and religious disorders who have perverted the right ways of God.
• With this information we will be able to keep our own family members, sons and daughters, from falling down before the chair of Felix angel and giving him the glory, the power, the honor, and the kingdom.
• Yes, it is written so that our Filipino family will not be led into the abyss where Felix angel awaits with the rich man and Judas for the day of judgment.

To my family and friends, do not bow to Felix angel for he is the false god of the INC and its members. Worship Jesus Christ for he is God!(John 1:1).

• Would God use a man who was a fornicator, a rapist, an adulterer, and use him to set up his "restored Church?"
• Would God use a man who perverts the Word of God to make himself into an angel from heaven? Would God use a man whose interpretation of Scripture was primarily self-serving and for self-glory and exaltation?
• Would God use a man who claimed he was the messias and like Solomon he had the right to have unlimited sexual partners?
• Would God use a man that the high courts of our nation rebuked for his deceiving of women to have relationships with him? Felix angel is in the same genre as Joseph Smith, both were philanderers and panty chasers. Both religious groups pervert the Word of God to make it testify for their own sexual predator leader.

May God save the Republic and grant many Philippine citizens the beauty of true Bible salvation.
• It is not in Felix angel or the INC, it is all in Jesus, the one who died on the Cross.
• Is Felix angel equal to Jesus?
• INC wishes, but Felix died and is dead, his body rotted and saw corruption.
• But the tomb of Jesus is empty.
• Felix angel just as much God as Jesus?
• Felix did not raise himself from the dead, Jesus did!
• Skin worms ate the body of Felix angel, Jesus saw no corruption.
• Felix angel is still in his hole in the ground whereas Jesus resurrected and sits on his throne in heaven.
• Those who are clean will escape from INC bondage and those seek Christ will never find him in an Iglesia Ni Cristo church.
• He is not there. Never was in one. And every Iglesia Ni Cristo structure is full of every foul spirit and sinful abomination. Not one of the INC churches is a holy place.

Acts 2:38 is the plan of grace-faith salvation, and remember the promise is to as many as the Lord (Jesus) our God shall call!



#55 Jan 31, 2014
amc wrote:
maybe i am wrong, but in order to "restore" you must have some existing structure, car, machinery, etc , etc.
pictures i have seen of these churches are just piles of dust.
building new , yes. restoring? not likely.

Rubbles of the Roman Catholic Church's structures should not be bulldozed!!! It should be preserved in order to show future generations that there were once buildings erected on land-garabbed properties which succumbed to the plagues after so much graft and corruption!!! For the cross-eyed scarecrows did nothing!!!

Real Elias Ibarra


#56 Jan 31, 2014
israelNOTpinas wrote:
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It look likes that our Elias PUNCHING bag are Envious and Sour graping...

Why should I envy the thousands of Roman Catholic and Protestant "born-again" dead??? Why should I envy their rubbled churches??? Why should I envy your decomposing faithfuls in the streets of Tacloban???

May sayad ka talaga!!!

Real Elias Ibvarra


#57 Jan 31, 2014
israelNOTpinas wrote:
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If you think that the Cult group fighting with you is of low level, don't fight back, maintain your dignity, you are not like him than how can you do what he is doing.

Write in English!!! The cults are not fighting with us but fighting against us!!! Improve your very low I.Q.!!! You are spurious preacher!!!

Some of your congregations though in Tayabas, Quezon are now joining the Iglesia ni Cristo!!!

Real Elias Ibarra

Yigo, Guam

#60 Mar 3, 2014
If one would just compare the opening statement of Mr. Eyeglass with that of his closing, one would realize how the crook is trying to justify what he has admitted!!!

The public has to learn the continuing scams of the leaders of the Roman Catholic Church and in the guise of helping the poor!!!

Real Elias Ibarra


#62 Mar 13, 2014
The so-called Holy Week of Catholics and Protestants is coming!!! The jails will be filled up again with Catholic and Protestant convicts during and after!!!

Thousands already were killed and maimed last year after the gangster cliques thought that their sins were forgiven after allowing themselves nailed on the cross and after doing some self-punishments!!!

All Trinitarians must improve their very low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra

Yigo, Guam

#66 Apr 5, 2014
Marami ang naniniwala na ang aral na si Cristo ay Diyos ay mula sa Biblia; na si Cristo mismo ang nagpakilala na Siya ay Diyos: na ang mga alagad ni Cristo ay tinawag Siyang Diyos; na sa mga apostol nagmula ang aral na Diyos si Cristo. Marahil ay magugulat kayo kung maririnig ninyo mula mismo sa mga nagtuturo na si Cristo ay Diyos na ang aral na ito ay wala sa Biblia. Tunghayan natin ang pagtatapat ng isang paring Katoliko na si Richard McBrien, sa kanyang aklat na Catholicism:

“Karaniwang binabanggit ng Bagong Tipan ang tungkol sa 'Diyos', ang Siya ring Diyos na gumagawa sa Matandang Tipan: ang Diyos ni Abraham, ni Isaac, at ni Jacob. Ang mga manunulat ng Bagong Tipan ay hindi man lamang binabanggit si Jesus bilang 'Diyos'.

“The New Testametn speaks simply of 'God', the same God who was at work in the Old Testament: the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob. The New Testament writers do not even ordinarily speak of Jesus as 'God”...”

Reference: McBrien, Richard P. Catholicism, Third Edition, p. 282. Great Britain: Geoffrey Chapman, 1951.

Bagama't ang paring Katoliko na si Richard McBrien ay naniwalang si Cristo ay Diyos, inamin niya na ang mga manunulat ng Bagong Tipan ay hindi nagpahayag na si Cristo ay Diyos.

All Trinitarians must re-examine the false teachings imparted to them by the false preachers in Catholicism and Protestantism!!!

Real Elias Ibarra

Yigo, Guam

#67 Apr 5, 2014
Isa pang paring Katoliko, si Raymond Brown, ay nagpahayag din na si Jesus ay hindi tinawag na Diyos sa mga Ebanghelyo Sinoptiko. Tunghayan natin ang mga isinasaad sa kanyang aklat na Jesus: God and Man:

“Si Jesus ay hindi kailanman tinawag na Diyos sa mga Ebanghelyo Sinoptiko, at ang isang talatang katulad ng Mar. 10:18 ay tila sinasarhan ang posibilidad na ginamit ni Jesus ang titulong iyon para sa Kaniyang sarili. Maging ang ikaapat na ebanghelyo (Juan) ay hindi kailanman inilarawan si Jesus na tiyakang nagsabi na Siya ay Diyos. Ang mga sermon sa Mga Gawa tungkol sa pasimula ng gawaing Cristiano ay hindi binabanggit si Jesus bilang Diyos. Kaya, walang dahilan upang isiping si Jesus ay tinawag na Diyos sa mga unang yugto ng tradisyon ng Bagong Tipan. Ang negatibong konklusyong ito ay pinatutunayan ng katotohanang hindi ginamit ni Pablo ang titulo sa alinman sa kaniyang mga epistola na naisulat bago ang taong 58 ...”

“Jesus is never called God in the Synoptic Gospels, and a passage like Mk. 10:18 would seem to preclude the possibility that Jesus used the title of himself. Even the fourth Gospel never portrays Jesus as saying specifically that he is God. The sermons which Acts attributes to the beginning of the Christian mission do not speak of Jesus as God. Thus, there is no reason that Jesus was called God in the earliest layers of the New Testament tradition. This negative conclusion is substantiated by the fact that Paul does not use the title in any epistle written before 58 ...”

Reference: Brown, Raymund F., Jesus: God and Man, p. 30. Milwaukee: The Bruce Publishing Company, n.d.

Naniwala rin ang paring Katoliko na si Raymond Brown na si Cristo ay Diyos, ngunit inamin niya na si Jesus ay hindi tinawag na Diyos sa mga Ebanghelyo Sinoptiko, kahit na sa ikaapat na Ebanghelyo, gayon din sa aklat ng Mga Gawa at maging sa mga epistola ni Apostol Pablo.

There is a need for all Trinitarians to re-examine the spurious doctrines of the Vatican!!!

Real Elias Ibarra


#68 Apr 6, 2014
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Why should I envy the thousands of Roman Catholic and Protestant "born-again" dead??? Why should I envy their rubbled churches??? Why should I envy your decomposing faithfuls in the streets of Tacloban???
May sayad ka talaga!!!
Real Elias Ibvarra

INC Bading Elias...

Why should I envy your decomposing faithfuls in the streets of Tacloban???

What a Post??? Do you remember Kabayan ko, Kapatid ko???

INC are Plastic Material... Pure Marketing Propaganda...

Eduardo Manalo is Laughing at your back driving his Limo...

"I love my brainwashed kiddos"

Yigo, Guam

#69 Apr 10, 2014
IsraelNOTPinas wrote:
<quoted text>
INC Bading Elias...
Why should I envy your decomposing faithfuls in the streets of Tacloban???
What a Post??? Do you remember Kabayan ko, Kapatid ko???
INC are Plastic Material... Pure Marketing Propaganda...
Eduardo Manalo is Laughing at your back driving his Limo...
"I love my brainwashed kiddos"

The dead in Tacloban City included spurious Protestant "Born-again" which were rotting in the streets because of Protestant failures to take care of their faithfuls!!! Protestantism like Catholicism is an anti-poor religion and is good only in "colossal racketeerings"!!!

Real Elias Ibarra

Yigo, Guam

#70 Apr 10, 2014
Hindi lamang sa hanay ng mga paring Katoliko may pag-amin na hindi ipinahayag ng Bagong Tipan na si Cristo ay Diyos. Ganito rin ang natuklasan ng mga teologong Protestante. Tunghayan natin ang sinabi ni Allan Richardson sa kaniyang aklat na An Introduction to the Theology of the New Testament:

“Saanman sa Bagong Tipan ay walang tuwiran o tahasang binanggit na si Cristo ay Diyos...”

“The New Testament nowhere says tout court that Christ is God.”

Reference: Ricahrdson, Allan. An Introductioin to the Theology of the New Testament, p. 63. London, Great Britain: SLM Press Ltd., 1958.

Ayon kay Allan Richardson, isang teologong Protestante na naniwala rin na si Cristo ay Diyos, walang matutunghayan sa Bagong Tipan na si Cristo ay tinawag na Diyos.Hindi lamang sa hanay ng mga paring Katoliko may pag-amin na hindi ipinahayag ng Bagong Tipan na si Cristo ay Diyos.

All Spurious Protestant "Born-again" must improve their very low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra

Yigo, Guam

#71 Apr 10, 2014
Ganito rin ang pag-amin ng isang tagapagturong Protestante na si John A.T. Robinson sa kaniyang sinulat na Honest To God:

“Sinabi ng Bagong Tipan na si Jesus ay ang Salita ng Diyos, sinasabi nito na ang Diyos ay na kay Cristo, at sinasabi nito na si si Jesus ay ang Anak ng Diyos; subalit hindi nito sinasabi na si Jesus ay Diyos ...”

“The New Testament says that Jesus was the Word of God, it says that God was in Christ, it says that Jesus is the Son of God; but it does not say that Jesus was God ...”

Reference: Robinson, John A.T. Honest To God, p. 70. London: SCM Press Ltd., 1963.

All Catholics and Protestants must improve their very low I.Q.!!!

Real Elias Ibarra

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