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Cville Attorney: Nix Jail Time for Marijuana Possession

There are 115 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Feb 16, 2013, titled Cville Attorney: Nix Jail Time for Marijuana Possession. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

He says it's inappropriate, and some Charlottesville city councilors agree. Tuesday night, the touchy issue will get tackled at a City Council meeting .

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SuzyQ

Chesapeake, OH

#84 Feb 20, 2013
HIM wrote:
Smoking pot rots your brain. The proof is our president! If there were educated voters in this area or the entire country, we would have a real president. Uneducated voters, potheads, and racial voters are responsible for our country being broke and be the laughing stock of the world.
Do we really want to legalize a drug that makes people even dumber than they are now? The government is getting exactly what it wants, abunch of uneducated unarmed people that theycan control.
George Bush smoked pot! I agree with you that he wasn't a real president! He was a uneducated pothead. When was the last time you smoked pot? You sound pretty dumb. I'd say you are one of those old fogies living in the past! Get a grip moron.
SmallBizOwner

Charlottesville, VA

#85 Feb 20, 2013
may wrote:
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You can tell me I am nuts,that you disagree with me and I am clueless,,
However,come back and tell me that if someone in your family is harmed in any by someone looking for money to buy and already has it in his/her system you would still feel all those things you judged me by
Hi may,

You seem earnest enough, so I want to provide an earnest response. The evidence of marijuana use stays in your system long after the effects have worn off. It does sounds as if you or your family has had a poor experience with a drug user in the past, and I understand that may have provided a reason for bias against all 'drugs'. It is my opinion, however, that the purpose for any incidents against yourself or your family was likely unrelated to marijuana. It's cheap. That means it's easier to go beg for half an hour to resupply a stash than to participate in a violent crime. I would suspect that some other drug addiction would be responsible for any violent acts perpetrated.

As stated above, this is purely my opinion, and you are free to disagree with it. I do not want to make any assumptions about the amount of research you have dedicated toward marijuana usage and its effects on the human mind/body. I can say with confidence that I have researched it quite a bit and will admit to first hand experience without personal detriment. I would recommend the same to you.

Above all else, I hope that this entire dialog will encourage some folks that haven't done much personal research on the topic to expand upon that.
Mike C

Charlottesville, VA

#86 Feb 20, 2013
SuzyQ wrote:
<quoted text>George Bush smoked pot! I agree with you that he wasn't a real president! He was a uneducated pothead. When was the last time you smoked pot? You sound pretty dumb. I'd say you are one of those old fogies living in the past! Get a grip moron.
Call your children in out of the street and back into the trailor! It's almost time for your boyfriend to come over, well before your third husband gets home. Inbreed!
Roy g Biv

Harrisonburg, VA

#87 Feb 20, 2013
SmallBizOwner wrote:
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Hi may,
You seem earnest enough, so I want to provide an earnest response. The evidence of marijuana use stays in your system long after the effects have worn off. It does sounds as if you or your family has had a poor experience with a drug user in the past, and I understand that may have provided a reason for bias against all 'drugs'. It is my opinion, however, that the purpose for any incidents against yourself or your family was likely unrelated to marijuana. It's cheap. That means it's easier to go beg for half an hour to resupply a stash than to participate in a violent crime. I would suspect that some other drug addiction would be responsible for any violent acts perpetrated.
As stated above, this is purely my opinion, and you are free to disagree with it. I do not want to make any assumptions about the amount of research you have dedicated toward marijuana usage and its effects on the human mind/body. I can say with confidence that I have researched it quite a bit and will admit to first hand experience without personal detriment. I would recommend the same to you.
Above all else, I hope that this entire dialog will encourage some folks that haven't done much personal research on the topic to expand upon that.
righteous! Bro....you are my zoo nizzle
hitem

South Boston, VA

#88 Feb 20, 2013
jus sayin wrote:
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No different than a drunk driver??????? I cannot believe the number of idiots in this town. Alcohol severely impairs driving ability, pot DOES NOT!!!!!!!!
Buuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllll sheotttttttttttttttt

Your the reason they wont legalize it
SuzyQ

Chesapeake, OH

#89 Feb 20, 2013
Mike C wrote:
<quoted text>Call your children in out of the street and back into the trailor! It's almost time for your boyfriend to come over, well before your third husband gets home. Inbreed!
I don't have children, don't live in a trailer & not married. Did you have too many beers? Now everyone can see what alcohol does to Mike C!!
SuzyQ

Chesapeake, OH

#90 Feb 20, 2013
hitem wrote:
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Buuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllll sheotttttttttttttttt
Your the reason they wont legalize it
Gosh, are you drunk too? You & Mike C should get together!
jus sayin

Waynesboro, VA

#91 Feb 20, 2013
hitem wrote:
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Buuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllll sheotttttttttttttttt
Your the reason they wont legalize it
Just what part of my post are you Buuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllll sheotttttttttttttttting about, that alcohol impairs your ability to drive or that pot does not? What are you basing that on, personal experience, or did uncle George tell you? You sound like you have had a few too many beers.

Idiot!!!!!!
hitem

South Boston, VA

#92 Feb 21, 2013
jus sayin wrote:
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Just what part of my post are you Buuuuuuuuuuuuullllllllllllllll sheotttttttttttttttting about, that alcohol impairs your ability to drive or that pot does not? What are you basing that on, personal experience, or did uncle George tell you? You sound like you have had a few too many beers.
Idiot!!!!!!
Driving stoned impairs your driving period knucklehead, does your parents know what you grow down in the basemment, go get a job and move out of your parents house. And get a bath
SuzyQ

Chesapeake, OH

#93 Feb 21, 2013
hitem wrote:
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Driving stoned impairs your driving period knucklehead, does your parents know what you grow down in the basemment, go get a job and move out of your parents house. And get a bath
Prove it with statistics!
Dude

Winchester, VA

#94 Feb 21, 2013
SuzyQ wrote:
<quoted text>Prove it with statistics!
there aren't enough statistics yet, there are too many legal challenges that prevent reliable data. Here, though, is an objective study:

http://adai.uw.edu/marijuana/factsheets/drivi...
real central va Marine

Crozet, VA

#95 Feb 21, 2013
SmallBizOwner wrote:
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Hi may,
You seem earnest enough, so I want to provide an earnest response. The evidence of marijuana use stays in your system long after the effects have worn off. It does sounds as if you or your family has had a poor experience with a drug user in the past, and I understand that may have provided a reason for bias against all 'drugs'. It is my opinion, however, that the purpose for any incidents against yourself or your family was likely unrelated to marijuana. It's cheap. That means it's easier to go beg for half an hour to resupply a stash than to participate in a violent crime. I would suspect that some other drug addiction would be responsible for any violent acts perpetrated.
As stated above, this is purely my opinion, and you are free to disagree with it. I do not want to make any assumptions about the amount of research you have dedicated toward marijuana usage and its effects on the human mind/body. I can say with confidence that I have researched it quite a bit and will admit to first hand experience without personal detriment. I would recommend the same to you.
Above all else, I hope that this entire dialog will encourage some folks that haven't done much personal research on the topic to expand upon that.
Were your mind and motor skills affected when you did your "research"? Please enlighten us to the "effects" of THC. Did you try to drive while under the influence? How did it go? If you didn't drive, why not?
SmallBizOwner

Charlottesville, VA

#96 Feb 21, 2013
real central va Marine wrote:
<quoted text>Were your mind and motor skills affected when you did your "research"? Please enlighten us to the "effects" of THC. Did you try to drive while under the influence? How did it go? If you didn't drive, why not?
I'll answer your questions with more of my own opinions. Everybody loves a chance to get on a soap box.:)

Basically, I'd argue that marijuana intoxication should be handled in a similar manner as alcohol intoxication. One or two beers may not hinder your driving abilities to the point that you are in illegal territory. I'd suggest that a small amount of marijuana intake would have the same sliding scale. Too much marijuana gets the same treatment as too many beers. I also believe that tolerance comes into play here, but I would make the same argument for alcohol. A daily drinker or smoker may say confidently that their driving skills are not impeded, but that's the decision of a blood/breath test rather than their say-so. The biggest hurdle I see to that argument is that I'm not aware of an accurate 'on the spot' test for marijuana intoxication. That lack of knowledge may be a failing of my research.

As to whether I'd say I've been intoxicated from marijuana to a point where I should not drive: Sure! At that point I was more interested in finding places that would drive food TO ME!
Dude

Winchester, VA

#97 Feb 21, 2013
SmallBizOwner wrote:
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I'll answer your questions with more of my own opinions. Everybody loves a chance to get on a soap box.:)
Basically, I'd argue that marijuana intoxication should be handled in a similar manner as alcohol intoxication. One or two beers may not hinder your driving abilities to the point that you are in illegal territory. I'd suggest that a small amount of marijuana intake would have the same sliding scale. Too much marijuana gets the same treatment as too many beers. I also believe that tolerance comes into play here, but I would make the same argument for alcohol. A daily drinker or smoker may say confidently that their driving skills are not impeded, but that's the decision of a blood/breath test rather than their say-so. The biggest hurdle I see to that argument is that I'm not aware of an accurate 'on the spot' test for marijuana intoxication. That lack of knowledge may be a failing of my research.
As to whether I'd say I've been intoxicated from marijuana to a point where I should not drive: Sure! At that point I was more interested in finding places that would drive food TO ME!
That's what the study suggests, and that's all I've been stating all along. Hey, if you want to get high, as long as you're not hurting anyone else, knock yourself out. You're a big boy (or girl) and you have access to know what the risks are. If you want to take them, it's your life. There is no reason why we should make a criminal out of you.

Chasing this is removing resources from real crimes.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#98 Feb 21, 2013
SmallBizOwner wrote:
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The biggest hurdle I see to that argument is that I'm not aware of an accurate 'on the spot' test for marijuana intoxication. That lack of knowledge may be a failing of my research.
Yep, that's the biggest issue, there is none but I'm sure there will be eventually. I'm not proud to say I've DUI on both. A little weed actually heightens senses, too much certainly distorts them.
just sayin

Waynesboro, VA

#99 Feb 21, 2013
hitem wrote:
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Driving stoned impairs your driving period knucklehead, does your parents know what you grow down in the basemment, go get a job and move out of your parents house. And get a bath
You say it impairs my driving, prove it!

Who are you calling knucklehead, punk. I expect I am old enough to be your daddy, maybe even your granddaddy.

As for a job, I have worked my 50 years and retired, so YOU go get a job.

Yes, I AM living in my mother's house, but my name has been on the deed for many years now.

To keep from showing your stupidity you should do some research about marijuana before you get on here running off at the mouth about something you know nothing about. You are an idiot!

Oh ... and why take a bath? I'd just get dirty again!
business owner

Fairfax, VA

#100 Feb 21, 2013
As long as pot users get zero tax dollars of any kind I say let them get stupid.

If they can afford pot they can afford food for their kids.

Then when their own kids report them for spending money on drugs instead of food we can lock them up for child neglect.

If you want to do pot and be responsioble then good for you but don't expect the taxpayers to pay your freight.
SuzyQ

Chesapeake, OH

#101 Feb 21, 2013
business owner wrote:
As long as pot users get zero tax dollars of any kind I say let them get stupid.
If they can afford pot they can afford food for their kids.
Then when their own kids report them for spending money on drugs instead of food we can lock them up for child neglect.
If you want to do pot and be responsioble then good for you but don't expect the taxpayers to pay your freight.
"responsible"
Concerned Citizen

Charlottesville, VA

#102 Feb 21, 2013
rickyc wrote:
i beleave that there should be no fine jail time or licence taken away for the fact of the matter is its eleagle and every one who is trying to obey the law are turning to k2 and other synthetic herbals that are way worse than pot cigerets and alcohole are worse but yet there still legal i mean get a grip pharmasutical company are basicly peddling heron and coke legaly in there pills and we as a person are not alloud a little bit of pot but doctors can turn people into junkys and thats ok realy i mean come on realy
You Sir are an IDIOT!!!
jus sayin

Waynesboro, VA

#103 Feb 21, 2013
real central va Marine wrote:
<quoted text>Does MJ alter your mental state? If it doesn't, why are you using it? If you drive with an altered mental state caused by MJ you are DUI.
Did I say it was not driving under the influence did I? I said it did not affect my ability to drive safely.

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