Tulsa Man Sentenced For Drug Trafficking And Gun Crimes

Herbert Eugene Hawkins, 42, of Tulsa was sentenced to 20 years in federal prison Wednesday for drug trafficking and gun crimes.

[east tulsan]

so...,we can expect ludwig to get the same..,right...,lol

[slimjim]

Here we go again this guy will be back and will kill next time. Where are our laws that punish these people for selling drugs and carrying heat.

[my say]

People who sell drugs often have a gun for protection. He had $28 thousand dollars. Think about it. As far as selling drugs, people buy them. Just like prostitutes. If there weren't men wanting to have sex with them there wouldn't be any women selling their bodies. Should we put all prostitutes in prison?

[Neutral party]

slimjim wrote:

Here we go again this guy will be back and will kill next time. Where are our laws that punish these people for selling drugs and carrying heat.

Yo idiot! This man is 42yrs old and just got 20yrs fed., that mean he is going to have to do atleast 18yrs and if you don't think that's long enough than long live the idiot.

[slimjim]

What are his previous arrests and why cater to these scum bags. We need laws that keep habitual criminals off the streets. You cant have unregulated drug distribution thru out the state. He was carrying a weapon and that usually means a sawed off shotgun to keep his activity going. You drug heads need to find other sources.

[offtopic deek]

slimjim wrote:

What are his previous arrests and why cater to these scum bags. We need laws that keep habitual criminals off the streets. You cant have unregulated drug distribution thru out the state...

So let's LEGALIZE and REGULATE THEM. Frankly, if many of these substances were decriminalized, they would lose their cachet for a lot of people, especially children who think "drugs are cool" because they're illegal. I say we stop throwing money at the drug problem, a practice which has so far been completely unsuccessful, and start collecting taxes on these substances. We'd spend astronomically less on our prisons also. I do not expect you to agree with me, of course.

[offtopic deek]

slimjim wrote:

Here we go again this guy will be back and will kill next time. Where are our laws that punish these people for selling drugs and carrying heat.

On the books. These laws are sometimes not enforced, but they are there.

[Tjuan Davis]

Oh well he had a lot sad

[slimjim]

My neighbors would be cooking meth if we legalized this activity. Remomber when the state was dry and the tax would solve every thing. Now we have gaming and the tax is disappearing or so they say. What we need are laws to incarserate and keep habitual criminals off the street. Most people sentenced today for murder receive less than 20 years, that is terrible. We have the right wing judges at every level of judicary and these bleeding hearts are going the re hab route. Instead of the stick a needle in there arm and be done with it.

[FLD]

Let's see how the Tulsa cop fares in this trial. Pretty good I would think since the union thugs will pay for his representation.

[summer breze]

that all 20 years he should get life so he wont go back into society shame on you

[Yo Yo Ma]

Child molesters get less time. Even on multiple offenses.

[NDN female]

If the public would quit doing it maybe people wouldnt supply it. Supply and Demand. But, for some reason everyone is on some oh pity me f-in trip "lets all do dope and get high cuz I can't deal with life." Instead of spending all this money on putting people in prison, does anyone seem to care that they cut the eduacation budget by 8 million dollars? It just makes sense, spending more on education would lessen criminal offenses in the long run. Maybe if the parents spent more time givin' a s*** about what their kids were doing and where they were they could curb the effect before they become adult offenders. Just a thought.

[not gonna happen]

People are always going to want drugs (including alcohol/nicotine/caffeine), ONE of these days legislation will realize people will always want them, so when they decide to tax and sell them, these stories will show up weekly. And the people will keep complaining "people lets all do dope and get high" kind of comments.

Why not give up drinking coffee and the wine you drink at church and think outside the box

[swandive]

Bet he serves less than 5 years and is out.....wouldn't it be nice to see someone actually serve the full sentence? But that's the way the system works.

[scott]

swandive wrote:

Bet he serves less than 5 years and is out.....wouldn't it be nice to see someone actually serve the full sentence? But that's the way the system works.

The genius speaks again. Woe to the "topix" freak! Listen! We are talking about drugs here. He wasnt holding people against their will and forcing them to do drugs. These people come to him for the drugs. He steps out, another steps in and so it goes. I'm fine with that but putting him away for 20 years.....rediculous. Rehabilitation and Education is the ONLY solution. If you were sitting in a room with this guy Swandive and you had an opportunity to tell this guy you thought he should serve his "full sentence" would you? NO NO NO NO you wouldnt. I never say something unless I'm willing to say it to anyone anywhere, otherwise you are living a lie. YOU ARE LIVING A LIE SWANBOY!

[swandive]

scott wrote:

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The genius speaks again. Woe to the "topix" freak! Listen! We are talking about drugs here. He wasnt holding people against their will and forcing them to do drugs. These people come to him for the drugs. He steps out, another steps in and so it goes. I'm fine with that but putting him away for 20 years.....rediculous. Rehabilitation and Education is the ONLY solution. If you were sitting in a room with this guy Swandive and you had an opportunity to tell this guy you thought he should serve his "full sentence" would you? NO NO NO NO you wouldnt. I never say something unless I'm willing to say it to anyone anywhere, otherwise you are living a lie. YOU ARE LIVING A LIE SWANBOY!

So you want to put him back out there to do it again in no time flat that make sense. Rehab and give him education you say....so how long should he serve. Your part of the problem you know give people a slap on the hand for their crimes, guess men who rape little girls should spend two days in jail too??? Or the person who shot the kid coming off the school bus if they ever get caught guess they should get a slap on the hand too....perhaps the woman who ran down 5 people drunk should be let go too???
Without conquences anyone can do anything and that is living the lie....Scotty-b-gone.

[offtopic deek]

NDN female wrote:

If the public would quit doing it maybe people wouldnt supply it. Supply and Demand. But, for some reason everyone is on some oh pity me f-in trip "lets all do dope and get high cuz I can't deal with life." Instead of spending all this money on putting people in prison, does anyone seem to care that they cut the eduacation budget by 8 million dollars? It just makes sense, spending more on education would lessen criminal offenses in the long run. Maybe if the parents spent more time givin' a s*** about what their kids were doing and where they were they could curb the effect before they become adult offenders. Just a thought.

An extremely good thought. Totally agree.

[c hawkins]

That's my father