War on drugs still strong

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SANTA FE Democrats who want to end the war on drugs are in for a battle. State Sen.
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Cartoon

Alamogordo, NM

#1 Jun 18, 2011
Kintigh is minimizing the facts. There are hundreds, or possibly thousands of people in NM prisons for violating their probation with dirty UA's. They have a drug habit and they will slip. They are living with their demons and will recon with them just fine without crushing the life out of them sending them to prison. They usually just pick back up where they left off with their habit when they are released, but now with a felony conviction and no job. More of a formula for despair and drug use.
Proud American

Alamogordo, NM

#2 Jun 18, 2011
You are so right. Unfortunately, relapse is part of addiction whether we're talking about quitting overeating, tobacco, alcohol or other substances.

The US cut cig smoking in half by providing public health information, investing in research on treatment options like Chantix, patches, nicotine gum, lozenges, support groups, etc....and we didn't put one person in prison.

We need to treat addiction from a public health perspective and NOT from just a law and order perspective. Let's save our law enforcement resources for catching the rapists, murderers, drivers who drive while impaired.
The current 'war on drugs' has become systemic racism.
Cartoon wrote:
Kintigh is minimizing the facts. There are hundreds, or possibly thousands of people in NM prisons for violating their probation with dirty UA's. They have a drug habit and they will slip. They are living with their demons and will recon with them just fine without crushing the life out of them sending them to prison. They usually just pick back up where they left off with their habit when they are released, but now with a felony conviction and no job. More of a formula for despair and drug use.
Proud American

Alamogordo, NM

#3 Jun 18, 2011
One of Nixon's advisers wanted to call it "The New Prohibition" but others who were more familiar with the reality, with the history of alcohol Prohibition suggested it be called "The War on Drugs."

40 years later, drugs are more available, there is more violence surrounding the production & supply, drugs are cheaper & stronger. We imprison more people than any other country in the world ever has.

We need to treat addiction through treatment; then we need to regulate & tax the production & supply, just as we do with alcohol and tobacco.

The problems with addiction and drug use will be with us forever and we need to treat it. The problems of violence around production & supply can be dramatically reduced by changing our policy.
renegade

Alamogordo, NM

#4 Jun 18, 2011
i agree that the drug war needs to be continued with a stronger laws. i don't mean to say that casual users of pot need to go to prison, but that can also lead to heavier drug use, especially in the teen age years. use of the real drugs lead to murder, theft, suicide and the such. my husband was a druggie and i have no use for that at all. it is very heart breaking to see the user of meth or coke, or ectasy, it is sad to see the results, sometimes after just one use of these high profile drugs. i have saw first hand the damage that is done, not only to the user, but to the families of the user, the damage that is done to people in general public, the heart break and deaths that it leads too, it is not a pretty sight and, in fact it is one of the saddest things i can think of
Carol Smith

Alamogordo, NM

#6 Jun 18, 2011
We need to separate drug use from drug production and supply. We don't see Coors distributors shooting Bud distributors in the street, because we tax and regulate.

We need to provide treatmt options for those suffering from cigarette smoking, heroin use, meth use, etc.

End the War on Drugs.
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

Alamogordo, NM

#7 Jun 18, 2011
HEY lets look at other countries who have legalized all drugs and what happened? crimes and even use, yes I said use, went down dramatically. Who is to say beer and cigs is ok when cigs contain 1,000s of harmful chemicals than weed. When have you ever heard of someone killing anyone under the influence of weed. Maybe killed the contents of you fridge. but that's it put control on amounts and tax it, fix the economy and what is the big crime bosses gonna do then. You guesses it work with our government and help each other get bigger bank accounts. And the gateway drug is the result of individuals mixing products to make strong cravings which made for many people trying other drugs. Know what is really in what your getting and soon enough it wont be so cool to be a criminal. who knows maybe than all those individuals you thought were worthless will be hired to help produce and regulate amounts of levels in drugs. And be productive members of society once again and well fix alot of the poverty in many areas with all these new jobs that will come with the new work sector. SOMETHING TO REALLY CONSIDER. VOTE AND KNOW WHY YOUR VOTING FOR THAT PERSON.IT REALLY IS UP TO YOU, TO VOICE YOUR OPINION
Proud American

Alamogordo, NM

#8 Jun 18, 2011
You did give us something to think about seriously, because you are right that countries that have legalized or quasi-legalized drugs have reduced drug use, increased the age of the average substance abuser and stopped the violence inherent in a policy of declaring substances that make people feel better (short-term), to be illegal.
SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT wrote:
HEY lets look at other countries who have legalized all drugs and what happened? crimes and even use, yes I said use, went down dramatically. Who is to say beer and cigs is ok when cigs contain 1,000s of harmful chemicals than weed. When have you ever heard of someone killing anyone under the influence of weed. Maybe killed the contents of you fridge. but that's it put control on amounts and tax it, fix the economy and what is the big crime bosses gonna do then. You guesses it work with our government and help each other get bigger bank accounts. And the gateway drug is the result of individuals mixing products to make strong cravings which made for many people trying other drugs. Know what is really in what your getting and soon enough it wont be so cool to be a criminal. who knows maybe than all those individuals you thought were worthless will be hired to help produce and regulate amounts of levels in drugs. And be productive members of society once again and well fix alot of the poverty in many areas with all these new jobs that will come with the new work sector. SOMETHING TO REALLY CONSIDER. VOTE AND KNOW WHY YOUR VOTING FOR THAT PERSON.IT REALLY IS UP TO YOU, TO VOICE YOUR OPINION

“US Navy”

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#10 Jun 18, 2011
Just say no to drugs. Deal with life instead of trying to escape it.
Fritz

Cloudcroft, NM

#11 Jun 18, 2011
What a load of s*** Thousands of Mexicans killed in support of our worthless drug war. Worse even than prohibition...oppression breeds rebellion...the politicians are too stupid to understand reality/
Fritz

Cloudcroft, NM

#12 Jun 18, 2011
CornDogz wrote:
Just say no to drugs. Deal with life instead of trying to escape it.
WAKE UP
Sgt_Stadenko

West Covina, CA

#13 Jun 18, 2011
Even one person losing their liberty for possession of marijuana is criminal, but the real criminal part is the fact that legislators now need to keep these racist laws on the books to keep those private prisons filled. If not the politicians will be exposed for their greed and fraud that had municipalities get on the hook for the bonds to build them.
Here's a novel idea, lets fill those prisons with actual criminals, make our communities safer. But no, it is easier to keep them filled with the low hanging fruit, stoners.
Tom Hyland

United States

#14 Jun 18, 2011
WHY is marijuana illegal? Congress outlawed it in 1937 because it would have injured the profits of William Randolph Hearst, the newspaper baron. The Decorticator, invented in 1935, was the scientific breakthrough that would cheaply process hemp into paper. The devise was unveiled on the front cover of the June 1935 issue of Modern Invention as the "miracle machine" and hemp was forecast as "America's first billion dollar crop."
Most people are entirely unaware that hemp was once an integral commodity that helped build this nation. Both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution are penned upon hemp paper. The sails of ships, the ropes that hoisted them into place, and the canvas of the covered wagons were made of hemp. The first Levis were woven from this fiber, which was the major crop grown by Washington, Jefferson, and many other farmers who planted this basic staple of existence.
However, William Randolph Hearst produced newspapers and was heavily invested in the sulfuric-pulp process that makes trees into paper. He owned forests, too. He supplied his own businesses with paper and sold paper to other companies across the country. This invention had him very worried so he personally began writing propaganda essays in his papers decrying marijuana as a public health menace that turns normal people into ax-wielding mass murderers.
Andrew Mellon, much wealthier than Hearst and also an investor in the sulfuric-pulp paper industry, was the Secretary of the Treasury at the time. Also, Mellon was chairman of the Mellon Bank, which was the main source of finance for DuPont Chemical which held the patent on the sulfuric acid wood-pulping process. DuPont had just invented nylon and rayon and they never wanted to see another rope made from hemp ever again.
Mellon was the key instigator in creating a new government agency called the Bureau of Narcotics and he placed Harry Anslinger, married to Mellon's niece, as its first director. Anslinger testified before Congress, reading actual Hearst-written articles, about how this dangerous weed drives people insane and turns them into violent animals. Doctors and scientist's testimony contradicted Anslinger's when they provided proven studies that marijuana actually causes users to become quite serene and contemplative. Anslinger then reversed his angle of attack completely and said, "Marijuana causes its users to become so peaceful and pacifistic that in the future American boys will not want to fight in our wars." Congress voted and marijuana has been illegal ever since.
The former governor of New Mexico, Gary Johnson, has said... "If you're smoking pot the only thing you're likely to attack is a bag of potato chips." In over 80% of violent crimes, alcohol abuse is a primary ingredient. And here's a bit more info regarding this sulfuric-pulp paper making process.... the amount of fiber harvested from one acre of hemp, which takes only one season to grow, is equal to the amount harvested from five acres of trees that take 30 or more years to grow. The sulfuric-pulp process is one of the leading contributors to our green-house atmosphere and acid rain problems, while the Decorticator hemp-processor adds nothing at all.
In America alone, each year approximately 400,000 people die from tobacco use. About 100,000 die annually from the effects of alcohol. 20,000 die each year from taking legal drugs. Caffeine is the cause of 2,000 deaths and aspirin kills about 500 each year. There is no known incident in medical history that a person had died from marijuana. It is long past time that we legalize hemp, we legalize marijuana, and get over this destructive policy that has created more than half the population of our jails. America leads the world by far in the percentage of jailed citizens and 60% of the imprisoned are nonviolent offenders. Non-violent drug convictions account for over a fourth of the imprisoned population.
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“US Navy”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#15 Jun 18, 2011
Fritz wrote:
<quoted text> WAKE UP
Hey drug addict - Just say no to drugs. Deal with life instead of trying to escape it.

“Kees Mee, I's Ireesh”

Since: Jun 09

Ol' Juarez

#16 Jun 18, 2011
CornDogz wrote:
Just say no to drugs. Deal with life instead of trying to escape it.
"Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a conservative radio host. Then it's an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery".
Proud American

Alamogordo, NM

#17 Jun 19, 2011
You nailed it! Yes, let's let the law enforcement go after rapists, murderers, robbers, etc. That would be using our resources wisely, but those making profits from the current 'war on drugs' policies won't like that.

From the Juneteenth thread, "The drug war was part of a grand and highly successful Republican Party strategy of using racially coded political appeals on issues of crime and welfare to attract poor and working class white voters who were resentful of, and threatened by, desegregation, busing, and affirmative action. In the words of H.R. Haldeman, President Richard Nixon's White House Chief of Staff: "[T]he whole problem is really the blacks. The key is to devise a system that recognizes this while not appearing to."

Drug war = Systemic racism
Sgt_Stadenko wrote:
Even one person losing their liberty for possession of marijuana is criminal, but the real criminal part is the fact that legislators now need to keep these racist laws on the books to keep those private prisons filled. If not the politicians will be exposed for their greed and fraud that had municipalities get on the hook for the bonds to build them.
Here's a novel idea, lets fill those prisons with actual criminals, make our communities safer. But no, it is easier to keep them filled with the low hanging fruit, stoners.
lawman

Jacksonville, FL

#18 Jun 19, 2011
time to crack down hard on drug thru increased sentences for all drug related crimes.

just say no JAX!
lawman

Jacksonville, FL

#19 Jun 19, 2011
move several army divisions to the mexican border now!!
lawman

Jacksonville, FL

#20 Jun 19, 2011
Fritz wrote:
What a load of s*** Thousands of Mexicans killed in support of our worthless drug war. Worse even than prohibition...oppression breeds rebellion...the politicians are too stupid to understand reality/
they died doing what they loved to do.....smuggle drugs....think it thru
Proud American

Alamogordo, NM

#21 Jun 19, 2011
I stand with the law enforcement officers who are opposed to the failed war on drugs.

I stand with LEAP...
Neill Franklin, a former Baltimore narcotics cop and LEAP’s executive director, said,“Over the past few weeks, us cops who have been on the front lines of the ‘war on drugs’ have made numerous attempts to schedule a meeting with the drug czar to share our concerns about the harms these drug laws are causing...Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP) represents police, prosecutors, judges, prison wardens, federal agents and others who want to legalize and regulate drugs after fighting on the front lines of the “war on drugs” and learning firsthand that prohibition only serves to worsen addiction and violence. More info at http://www.CopsSayLegalizeDrugs.com
or
http://www.leap.cc
Proud American

Alamogordo, NM

#22 Jun 19, 2011
We did that...it didn't reduce drug use, but it did increase violence surrounding production & supply, just as it did during alcohol prohibition. If you find yourself in a hole, quit digging.

Let's recognize that there are two different problems:
one, substance abuse.
two, substance production & distribution

Who gave you the right to say it's ok for someone to go home and drink booze, smoke cigs, but not to smoke pot? Do you really think we have the right to tell adults what they can put into their own bodies at home? How do you justify that?
lawman wrote:
time to crack down hard on drug thru increased sentences for all drug related crimes.
just say no JAX!

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