Can you spot the addict? Prescription abuse becomes widespread

Feb 6, 2010 Full story: The Virginian-Pilot 53

1 in 4 Troops admit abusing prescription drugs within a one-year period. 1 in 10 High school seniors say they've abused Vicodin.

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Since: Feb 10

Paonia, CO

#1 Feb 8, 2010
This is such a shame for any one that does not have severe bone or any kind of pain that can not be helped any other way. I speak this because I am one that has no other choice. the doctors will not touch me. they said my bones are so bad they would not even think of doing surgery because it would not help. we had a specialest back in 1995 tell me an my husband that I would not walk in two years. well by the grace of my LORD I am able o still walk with his help an the help of my pain management doctor. people that abuse these meds make it very difficult for people like myself an many others that really need the assistance of these meds just to get up an walk, function an try to live a normal life as possible. I pray for those folks that need help an cant get it. I so understand our bodys are not designed to handle heavy pain. can you imagine not being able to move an crying all the time due to such severe pain. I am ever so grateful to GOD for sending me a great doctor that is compassionate an understanding. he did not just give me the meds right off. he did MRI'S, an Injections an when he seen my MRI'S he was "shocked' to see I have no disc in my spine an old brusies from abuse. so if any one that abuses these meds an dont need them please get help. you make it hard for others an not only that, you are hurting your self an your family. your future will be short. so please "stop" if you dont have a reason to take these meds. I pray for all people to get the help they need to live a happy life an prosper in every thing thy do thru JESUS.
On the troops, now I am not going to say any thing about them because I dont know what they have been thru or seen being in a war. what ever helps them cope as long as they use them properly. I applaud each troop for helping keep us safe. thank you from my heart for all you risk an thank you for your family's. it has to be hard on them as well I have a son In-law in Iraq now on the front line. all are in our prayers always.
May GOD keep all of you safe
Sandi/ A Prophetess 4 JESUS 25/8
I play for a buck

Hodgenville, KY

#2 Feb 9, 2010
Nice Dogy!
HurtSoldier

Troy, MO

#3 Feb 9, 2010
Prophetess4Jesus wrote:
This is such a shame for any one that does not have severe bone or any kind of pain that can not be helped any other way. I speak this because I am one that has no other choice. the doctors will not touch me. they said my bones are so bad they would not even think of doing surgery because it would not help. we had a specialest back in 1995 tell me an my husband that I would not walk in two years. well by the grace of my LORD I am able o still walk with his help an the help of my pain management doctor. people that abuse these meds make it very difficult for people like myself an many others that really need the assistance of these meds just to get up an walk, function an try to live a normal life as possible. I pray for those folks that need help an cant get it. I so understand our bodys are not designed to handle heavy pain. can you imagine not being able to move an crying all the time due to such severe pain. I am ever so grateful to GOD for sending me a great doctor that is compassionate an understanding. he did not just give me the meds right off. he did MRI'S, an Injections an when he seen my MRI'S he was "shocked' to see I have no disc in my spine an old brusies from abuse. so if any one that abuses these meds an dont need them please get help. you make it hard for others an not only that, you are hurting your self an your family. your future will be short. so please "stop" if you dont have a reason to take these meds. I pray for all people to get the help they need to live a happy life an prosper in every thing thy do thru JESUS.
On the troops, now I am not going to say any thing about them because I dont know what they have been thru or seen being in a war. what ever helps them cope as long as they use them properly. I applaud each troop for helping keep us safe. thank you from my heart for all you risk an thank you for your family's. it has to be hard on them as well I have a son In-law in Iraq now on the front line. all are in our prayers always.
May GOD keep all of you safe
Sandi/ A Prophetess 4 JESUS 25/8
sandi I am one of those 1 in 4 troops that has abused opiates after returning from iraq. i didnt go looking for this problem either it came and found me. I was severely injured in iraq and given emergency surgery in iraq. I sent several months recovering at walter reed army medical center. i was given alot of opiates morphine and oxycodone as much as i wanted. I was naive as i never used drugs before in my life. they sent me home with 2 scripts. they ran out i went to the VA hospital told them i couldnt sleep and felt weird they told me either check myself into detox or do it on my own. I never considered detox at this point because i always looked down upon drug addicts as scum. my opinion on drug abuse has changed though after developing this problem. anyway i ended up getting my pills on the street to help deal with pain both mental and physical. been to detox relapsed. still in a lot of pain. now i am on suboxone trying to tapper myself off on my own.

Since: Aug 09

Bismarck, ND

#5 Feb 9, 2010
HurtSoldier wrote:
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sandi I am one of those 1 in 4 troops that has abused opiates after returning from iraq. i didnt go looking for this problem either it came and found me. I was severely injured in iraq and given emergency surgery in iraq. I sent several months recovering at walter reed army medical center. i was given alot of opiates morphine and oxycodone as much as i wanted. I was naive as i never used drugs before in my life. they sent me home with 2 scripts. they ran out i went to the VA hospital told them i couldnt sleep and felt weird they told me either check myself into detox or do it on my own. I never considered detox at this point because i always looked down upon drug addicts as scum. my opinion on drug abuse has changed though after developing this problem. anyway i ended up getting my pills on the street to help deal with pain both mental and physical. been to detox relapsed. still in a lot of pain. now i am on suboxone trying to tapper myself off on my own.
first off, thank you for your service. if i was there, id shake your hand. now that your views on drug abuse, where do you see yourself at with the drug abuse? im not here to judge or say anything judgemental. im a recovering addict and i have chronic pain issues myself. i was just wondering if you see yourself just having a drug problem or would you consider yourself an addict? i was just wondering because when i read your post, it just sounds like your wondering about yourself and where you are with the whole addiction thing. dont worry. its a common feeling with people that have gone thru what you have.

like i said, im not trying to imply anything about anything. i just read your post and would like to know more. you helped your country when it needed help and now id like to return the favor. i would like to help you out with any information for any questions you might have. your post ended like it was the middle of a post. if i overstepped some bounderies, let me know. looking forward to posting with you. and thank you again for your service. it was and is appriciated.

Since: Feb 10

Cary, NC

#6 Feb 9, 2010
I am a medicaly retired United States Army Airborne Ranger. All my life I have loved the extreme. I am a thrill seeker. I have always done lots of hard partying and plenty of drugs. I never got owned by anything until this happens. When you are a Ranger in the Army (Think about the guys in Black Hawk Down) you are king of like the Varsity Football player in Highschool. I got injured a few times when I was in the Army. One of the was quite serious. I tried to suck it up and drive on but found the pain ubearable. The Army introduced me to Percocet. I noticed not only did I not hurt, but I had mad energy, and was in a damn good mood when I did it. Well that lead me to problems. I had walked away from smoking pot, Extacy, Ketamine, Cocaine, and LSD when I joined. I did not even miss those a little bit. Oxicodone, that is a whole different story. I have been through a bad divorce and have had some really hard luck since getting out of the Army. The pills always helped me deal with it and made life seem better. Now the pills are no longer an added boost to my life, they are my life.

Since: Feb 10

Cary, NC

#7 Feb 9, 2010
You should email me if you want to talk.
painaddik wrote:
<quoted text>
first off, thank you for your service. if i was there, id shake your hand. now that your views on drug abuse, where do you see yourself at with the drug abuse? im not here to judge or say anything judgemental. im a recovering addict and i have chronic pain issues myself. i was just wondering if you see yourself just having a drug problem or would you consider yourself an addict? i was just wondering because when i read your post, it just sounds like your wondering about yourself and where you are with the whole addiction thing. dont worry. its a common feeling with people that have gone thru what you have.
like i said, im not trying to imply anything about anything. i just read your post and would like to know more. you helped your country when it needed help and now id like to return the favor. i would like to help you out with any information for any questions you might have. your post ended like it was the middle of a post. if i overstepped some bounderies, let me know. looking forward to posting with you. and thank you again for your service. it was and is appriciated.
curious

Whittier, NC

#9 Feb 10, 2010
HurtSoldier wrote:
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sandi I am one of those 1 in 4 troops that has abused opiates after returning from iraq. i didnt go looking for this problem either it came and found me. I was severely injured in iraq and given emergency surgery in iraq. I sent several months recovering at walter reed army medical center. i was given alot of opiates morphine and oxycodone as much as i wanted. I was naive as i never used drugs before in my life. they sent me home with 2 scripts. they ran out i went to the VA hospital told them i couldnt sleep and felt weird they told me either check myself into detox or do it on my own. I never considered detox at this point because i always looked down upon drug addicts as scum. my opinion on drug abuse has changed though after developing this problem. anyway i ended up getting my pills on the street to help deal with pain both mental and physical. been to detox relapsed. still in a lot of pain. now i am on suboxone trying to tapper myself off on my own.
How are you doing with the suboxone?
HurtSoldier

Troy, MO

#10 Feb 10, 2010
painaddik wrote:
<quoted text>
first off, thank you for your service. if i was there, id shake your hand. now that your views on drug abuse, where do you see yourself at with the drug abuse? im not here to judge or say anything judgemental. im a recovering addict and i have chronic pain issues myself. i was just wondering if you see yourself just having a drug problem or would you consider yourself an addict? i was just wondering because when i read your post, it just sounds like your wondering about yourself and where you are with the whole addiction thing. dont worry. its a common feeling with people that have gone thru what you have.
like i said, im not trying to imply anything about anything. i just read your post and would like to know more. you helped your country when it needed help and now id like to return the favor. i would like to help you out with any information for any questions you might have. your post ended like it was the middle of a post. if i overstepped some bounderies, let me know. looking forward to posting with you. and thank you again for your service. it was and is appriciated.
I dont know where I stand. On one end of the spectrum you have hardcore addicts who will steal from their own parents family and friends. on the other hand you have the functioning addict. I consider myself the later. I never stole from anyone to support my addiction. I had saved around 30 grand from a year or so in iraq and blew it all in the last year on addiction. I just moved out of state from mass to arkansas so i dont have access to pills. i brought with me 60 suboxone to try to tapper with. i am starting a real good job in the next few days. i think if i was to have stayed in massachusetts my problem would escalate exponentially as i left mass with 3 grand in my bank account. if i had stayed i would have spent that in about 3 weeks or so with no job (i graduated college in December) its like i hate being an addict but i love the drug. Its all i think about here. thats why i have been on the forum so much the last few days i just cant get oxycontin off my mind. its like a secret love affair. plus i am still in chronic pain from what happened. honestly i feel lost trapped confused.
HurtSoldier

Troy, MO

#11 Feb 10, 2010
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
How are you doing with the suboxone?
its going ok like i said i brought 60 with me to tapper. right now i take about half a day. i start feeling crappy 20 hours or so from when i take it. I dont have a script for these so once they run out i am screwed if i dont tapper correctly. so i dunno i guess its going ok.
HurtSoldier

Troy, MO

#12 Feb 10, 2010
wwb25937 wrote:
I am a medicaly retired United States Army Airborne Ranger. All my life I have loved the extreme. I am a thrill seeker. I have always done lots of hard partying and plenty of drugs. I never got owned by anything until this happens. When you are a Ranger in the Army (Think about the guys in Black Hawk Down) you are king of like the Varsity Football player in Highschool. I got injured a few times when I was in the Army. One of the was quite serious. I tried to suck it up and drive on but found the pain ubearable. The Army introduced me to Percocet. I noticed not only did I not hurt, but I had mad energy, and was in a damn good mood when I did it. Well that lead me to problems. I had walked away from smoking pot, Extacy, Ketamine, Cocaine, and LSD when I joined. I did not even miss those a little bit. Oxicodone, that is a whole different story. I have been through a bad divorce and have had some really hard luck since getting out of the Army. The pills always helped me deal with it and made life seem better. Now the pills are no longer an added boost to my life, they are my life.
whats your email bro? i would love to talk. I know this seems weird but i feel less scummy having this problem knowing another soldier is going through a similar situation.
HurtSoldier

Troy, MO

#13 Feb 10, 2010
painaddik wrote:
<quoted text>
first off, thank you for your service. if i was there, id shake your hand. now that your views on drug abuse, where do you see yourself at with the drug abuse? im not here to judge or say anything judgemental. im a recovering addict and i have chronic pain issues myself. i was just wondering if you see yourself just having a drug problem or would you consider yourself an addict? i was just wondering because when i read your post, it just sounds like your wondering about yourself and where you are with the whole addiction thing. dont worry. its a common feeling with people that have gone thru what you have.
like i said, im not trying to imply anything about anything. i just read your post and would like to know more. you helped your country when it needed help and now id like to return the favor. i would like to help you out with any information for any questions you might have. your post ended like it was the middle of a post. if i overstepped some bounderies, let me know. looking forward to posting with you. and thank you again for your service. it was and is appriciated.
i am not sure where i stand on addiction. I know there are different levels. between functioning and rock bottom. I never stole to feed my addiction but i did spend 30 grand of my savings from iraq on pills since december 2008. I just moved to arkansas from massachusetts with 3 grand left from that 30,0000. If i had stayed i think my addiction would have gotten exponentially worse. here in arkansas i dont have access to pills so i cant do them. but i think about them 24/7. its like a secret love of mine so it seems. i hate the addiction but i love the pills. I have brought 60 suboxone with me to try to tapper. if this doesnt work i am screwed. i am a college graduate and i start a real good job in a few days with this secret. i dont think being an addict makes you a bad person. i think people just get desperate and feel trapped. i know i sure do right now. i feel trapped confused angry sad. you havent stepped on any boundaries. i like talking about it. i would really like to find out what makes me an addict and why God decide i would carry this burden. so ask away i will answer you the best i can.
HurtSoldier

Troy, MO

#14 Feb 10, 2010
woops answered it twice. oh well i said about the same thing.
Jeff

Marlborough, MA

#15 Feb 10, 2010
Addiction is addiction. You shouldn't judge someone even if they do steal to get what they need. That deviates from the real issue, which is addiction.

An addict is an addict, is an addict. Whether you're a king or homeless, it effects 'em all the same.

Dude, don't blame God for your addiction. You want anyone to blame, blame the circumstances that caused you the need of the opiates in the first place.

I'm not judging you, just saying how it is. Good luck.

p.s. Just keep your mind as busy as possible. Do you read? You mention military, ever hear of 'The 33 Strategies of War'? It's not exactly how it sounds to be. Highly recommend looking into it. Hell, I just downloaded the audio book the other day. It has helped to calm my mind greatly.
HurtSoldier

Troy, MO

#16 Feb 10, 2010
Jeff wrote:
Addiction is addiction. You shouldn't judge someone even if they do steal to get what they need. That deviates from the real issue, which is addiction.
An addict is an addict, is an addict. Whether you're a king or homeless, it effects 'em all the same.
Dude, don't blame God for your addiction. You want anyone to blame, blame the circumstances that caused you the need of the opiates in the first place.
I'm not judging you, just saying how it is. Good luck.
p.s. Just keep your mind as busy as possible. Do you read? You mention military, ever hear of 'The 33 Strategies of War'? It's not exactly how it sounds to be. Highly recommend looking into it. Hell, I just downloaded the audio book the other day. It has helped to calm my mind greatly.
i am not judging anyone. but you must understand there being different levels of addiction and you must understand what a rock bottom is. also if you took the time to read my posts you should have picked up the fact that i was hinting towards hitting a rock bottom where i might put myself in a situation i normally would have never done if i had not moved. secondly i dont blame God in fact i look to God for the answers. God has put me in this position for a reason and I am not sure why he has. However I dont question God i simply wish to understand what he wants me to do. Maybe when i finally get a grasp on this problem i can spread awareness to the military on opiate abuse and ptsd. Maybe thats why God has put me in this situation. I do read and I will take your advice. I just got a library card the other day so Ill go see if they have that book. I noticed you are from Massachusetts. I just moved from the south shore plymouth area to Arkansas. Big storm hitting you all today. My parents said 12 inches where they live on the coast. stay warm and safe.
ozark livin

Evening Shade, AR

#17 Feb 10, 2010
Hurt Soldier I live in Arkansas and have become dependent on oxycodone myself. I was in the 101st and hurt my back in a helicopter rappel. Started with hydrocodone which was helping but had to take 10 a day so of the 10/650's. Did research about the APAP in those and got prescribed the 30mg oxy's instead. It has been a long and expensive year for me as well. It has a way of becoming a secret love affair like y ou said. Please keep in touch w/me and let me know where in Ark. you live. TY
HurtSoldier

Troy, MO

#18 Feb 10, 2010
ozark livin whats up man i just moved to bryant next to benton from mass. my fiance's sister is from ozark. hey can you shoot me an email i am not trying to buy or sell anything i just had a few questions about arkansas. mjconforto@gmail.com
Jeff

Marlborough, MA

#19 Feb 10, 2010
HurtSoldier wrote:
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i am not judging anyone. but you must understand there being different levels of addiction and you must understand what a rock bottom is. also if you took the time to read my posts you should have picked up the fact that i was hinting towards hitting a rock bottom where i might put myself in a situation i normally would have never done if i had not moved. secondly i dont blame God in fact i look to God for the answers. God has put me in this position for a reason and I am not sure why he has. However I dont question God i simply wish to understand what he wants me to do. Maybe when i finally get a grasp on this problem i can spread awareness to the military on opiate abuse and ptsd. Maybe thats why God has put me in this situation. I do read and I will take your advice. I just got a library card the other day so Ill go see if they have that book. I noticed you are from Massachusetts. I just moved from the south shore plymouth area to Arkansas. Big storm hitting you all today. My parents said 12 inches where they live on the coast. stay warm and safe.
I've dealt with addiction, and I know what you mean. The whole God thing really , and no offense, but it amuses me. Personally I see the very idea as a crutch for the weak. Again, that is just my opinion. If it gets someone through hell, then by all means. I just think people put way too much faith in something they cannot see, rather than just take it on themselves.

Yeah, I'm from Ma. My area hasn't gotten too much yet, about 1/2 an inch or so.

As for the book, you could always just download the audio book. Normally I'd not like such things, and would go for an actual book. But I enjoyed the tone at which it was read. It really pulls you in. If you can't get it, let me know. I'll tell you how to get the audio book for free (but shh it's not exactly legal so don't tell anyone). You'll like it, it takes lessons from everyone from Napoleon, to Patton. It shows you how they engaged enemies from every conceivable direction, and what mistakes they may have made along the way. Really, it's a tool for not only war, but life in general. It has been compared to books such as 'The Art of War'.

This chapter of the audio book is entitled "Create a sense of urgency and desperation". What it tells you to do, is to , basically, become desperate in some things you do. It teaches you that when people become desperate, they will do anything in order to accomplish their goals. Sound familiar? Now of course it's not good for you to do desperate things in order to feed your addiction, and I am not condoning that. You'll get what it means merely by the tone in which it is read.

Here, download this chapter: http://www.transferbigfiles.com/Get.aspx...

If you don't trust the download to be safe, which is actually good thinking, then just go to Youtube and search for it. Or you can just scan the file before opening it to make sure its not a virus.

Since: Feb 10

Paonia, CO

#20 Feb 10, 2010
HurtSoldier wrote:
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sandi I am one of those 1 in 4 troops that has abused opiates after returning from iraq. i didnt go looking for this problem either it came and found me. I was severely injured in iraq and given emergency surgery in iraq. I sent several months recovering at walter reed army medical center. i was given alot of opiates morphine and oxycodone as much as i wanted. I was naive as i never used drugs before in my life. they sent me home with 2 scripts. they ran out i went to the VA hospital told them i couldnt sleep and felt weird they told me either check myself into detox or do it on my own. I never considered detox at this point because i always looked down upon drug addicts as scum. my opinion on drug abuse has changed though after developing this problem. anyway i ended up getting my pills on the street to help deal with pain both mental and physical. been to detox relapsed. still in a lot of pain. now i am on suboxone trying to tapper myself off on my own.
AWE I am so sorry you went through so much dol. Its not easy going through 1st of al going to I raq an then getting hurt. then after you lesving halfing to find help any where you can. I am so sorry for you. I wishedyou lived in Georgia. I have a good pain doc that would help you in a heart beat. he has people come from all over the usa for help. he urine test every few months which I dont mine. becare tho. any one taking any tpe of opeits, am AHDD mes such as Adderall, absolutely do not take "vick inhaler with it. i was accused of taking meht from the stree. if you look up vicks an taking any ahdd meds it will give a false positive drug test. this is what happen to me an I had to prove i wasn not taking meth. GOD certainally does watch over me an I praise his HOLY NAME for protecting my name. I wish for you to fine help my friend. I will be praying you.
GOD bless you
Sandi/ A Prophetess 4 JESUS CHRIST 25/8

Since: Aug 09

Bismarck, ND

#21 Feb 11, 2010
hurtsoldier,
im not gonna pretend to understand what you went thru while you were over there. i wont insult you like that. but what i will say is that i can 100% relate to you about your addiction to opiates. i hope you dont mind but im gonna share a bit of my story with you.
i wasnt that much different than you when it came to looking at addicts. i just used to drink beer and smoke a little pot every now and then. when we would party, some of my friends would go into a back room for awhile and then theyd come out all mellow with heavy looking eyes and they would nod off every now and then. finally i went in to see what they were doing. there they sat, shooting up oxycontin!! i would tell them that they were dumbasses and that i would never do that. they were retarded for doing it. well, one night, all drunk, they talked me into trying it. when i put that needle in my arm, i fell in love with opiates. that was about 6-7 yrs ago. i started shooting up oxycontin, dilaudid, morphine, heroin and just about any other opiate i could get my hands on. it didnt take much more than a month or so and i was a full blown addict. but i was a functioning addict. i would lead a normal everyday life. go to work, go to family functions, i was just a normal guy. but then i started to use more. i started to leave work to go and get pills because i couldnt wait till the end of the day. i started to bring my pills to work and would shoot up in the work trucks, portapoties at gas stations, anywhere.
pretty soon i had to shoot up in the morning just to feel normal and get outa bed. by this time, i wasnt able to get high anymore off of my "normal" amount. so i started using more and more and more. i would put in 70hrs/week or more at work. but 75% of the money i made went for pills. i was spending around $3000-$3500/month on pills. thats when i decided it was time to quit. i couldnt. i would get so "sick" i couldnt get outta bed. so i kept using. that cycle went on for about a year before i tried suboxone. the miracle drug was here!! except when i would have the craving, id use. pretty soon i was back to using and would use the suboxone only when i was outa pills or money. so i started to pawn everything that wasnt nailed down. i cant really say i never stolen anything because when i was using, because the money i used was the money ment for bills and food, money my family needed. i basiclly stolen the money i was making for my family to survive and live a normal life. when i realize that, i guess that was my rock bottom. the day i went into treatment, i shot up 60mg of oxy. i went thru 35 days of treatment and i did it with the help of suboxone. this time i was using the suboxone how it was ment to be used. it allowed me to concentrate on my treatment and while i was in treatment, i was slowly weaned off it. the day i walk out treatment, i was clean. that was in may of '08. ive only had two slips since then.
i shared my some of my story with you so you know where im comming from. plus it reminds me of where i came from and how far ive come. plus, i wanted to let you know your not alone in your addiction and that there are others who care enough to help. if there is anything youd like to know, please ask. i hope to hear from you soon. by the way, my name is gerald. welcome to topix.

“Finally Warm Outside!!!!”

Since: Oct 09

Naples,Fl,now in NH

#22 Feb 11, 2010
HurtSoldier wrote:
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sandi I am one of those 1 in 4 troops that has abused opiates after returning from iraq. i didnt go looking for this problem either it came and found me. I was severely injured in iraq and given emergency surgery in iraq. I sent several months recovering at walter reed army medical center. i was given alot of opiates morphine and oxycodone as much as i wanted. I was naive as i never used drugs before in my life. they sent me home with 2 scripts. they ran out i went to the VA hospital told them i couldnt sleep and felt weird they told me either check myself into detox or do it on my own. I never considered detox at this point because i always looked down upon drug addicts as scum. my opinion on drug abuse has changed though after developing this problem. anyway i ended up getting my pills on the street to help deal with pain both mental and physical. been to detox relapsed. still in a lot of pain. now i am on suboxone trying to tapper myself off on my own.
Its a sruggle but dont feel like u have to justify anyhing by explaining everyhing u wentt through. Opiate addiction is probably the worst battle ever....its a 2 edged love/hate relationship.

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