DEA probes Walgreens pharmacies over ...

DEA probes Walgreens pharmacies over drug diversion in Florida

There are 46 comments on the Reuters story from Nov 29, 2012, titled DEA probes Walgreens pharmacies over drug diversion in Florida. In it, Reuters reports that:

The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration is probing three Walgreen Co pharmacies in Florida in connection with a wide-ranging investigation of the diversion of prescription drugs for illicit use.

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Belladona Alkaloid

Vero Beach, FL

#22 Dec 13, 2012
I've been telling physicians that this GFD checklist is a new policy required by the DEA as of December 1st 2012 and that walgreens is the first to get on the bandwagon, all the other pharmacies will soon follow suite. Is this accurate??
Or is it a walgreens policy based on the DEA's requirement that we must, of course, dispense in good faith? I have some aggravated orthopedic doctors that want me to send them a copy of the law where it states this GFD checklist is necessary. I haven't been able to find any legal script mentioning this policy with simple google-fu. If anyone has a good source that I can send to these doctors proving that the DEA is requiring this, can you please post the link? Thank you.
WAG this

United States

#23 Dec 13, 2012
Belladona Alkaloid wrote:
I've been telling physicians that this GFD checklist is a new policy required by the DEA as of December 1st 2012 and that walgreens is the first to get on the bandwagon, all the other pharmacies will soon follow suite. Is this accurate??
Or is it a walgreens policy based on the DEA's requirement that we must, of course, dispense in good faith? I have some aggravated orthopedic doctors that want me to send them a copy of the law where it states this GFD checklist is necessary. I haven't been able to find any legal script mentioning this policy with simple google-fu. If anyone has a good source that I can send to these doctors proving that the DEA is requiring this, can you please post the link? Thank you.
It is an internal Walgreens requirement. It is not something the DEA is making us do. However, it IS based on things that the DEA targets during audits and has been fining/closing specific Walgreens locations for not doing. That's why we're telling people that we're doing this GFD to e in compliance with current DEA requirements. My response to ticked off doctors is "I have the right to protect my license just as you do. I don't tell you how to practice medicine, so don't tell me how to determine appropriate dispensing to stay in compliance. Our local DEA Diversion Officer loves to educate physicians, shall I give him your number?" This usually shuts them up.
RXM

Chandler, AZ

#24 Dec 13, 2012
Belladona Alkaloid wrote:
I've been telling physicians that this GFD checklist is a new policy required by the DEA as of December 1st 2012 and that walgreens is the first to get on the bandwagon, all the other pharmacies will soon follow suite. Is this accurate??
Or is it a walgreens policy based on the DEA's requirement that we must, of course, dispense in good faith? I have some aggravated orthopedic doctors that want me to send them a copy of the law where it states this GFD checklist is necessary. I haven't been able to find any legal script mentioning this policy with simple google-fu. If anyone has a good source that I can send to these doctors proving that the DEA is requiring this, can you please post the link? Thank you.
No it's just a Walgreens policy. A serious overreaction to the DEA coming down on Walgreens hard because of the pill mills in Florida. This is Walgreens saying "Hey, look we're doing something to stop this." But the truth is that nothing good is going to happen from this policy. Sure some of the bad prescriptions won't be filled but the main impact is going to be that a lot of legit prescriptions will be delayed or unable to be filled. And more importantly it's going to piss a lot of our patients off as well as the doctors.

The DEA is the one forcing the issue because they are going after the pharmacies rather than the doctors who are running these pill mills. Walgreens is making a huge mistake by making this unrealistic set of standards for filling control substances. No one is going to follow them. They should have came up with a realistic policy that we might be able to follow instead trying to impress the DEA with everything we're doing.
WAG this

United States

#25 Dec 14, 2012
RXM wrote:
<quoted text>No it's just a Walgreens policy. A serious overreaction to the DEA coming down on Walgreens hard because of the pill mills in Florida. This is Walgreens saying "Hey, look we're doing something to stop this." But the truth is that nothing good is going to happen from this policy. Sure some of the bad prescriptions won't be filled but the main impact is going to be that a lot of legit prescriptions will be delayed or unable to be filled. And more importantly it's going to piss a lot of our patients off as well as the doctors.

The DEA is the one forcing the issue because they are going after the pharmacies rather than the doctors who are running these pill mills. Walgreens is making a huge mistake by making this unrealistic set of standards for filling control substances. No one is going to follow them. They should have came up with a realistic policy that we might be able to follow instead trying to impress the DEA with everything we're doing.
Walgreens should have PUBLICLY embarrassed the DEA by showing how inconsistent their requirements are as well as showing that their is NO direction from the DEA. They should show that the DEA allows one set of rules and then fines / closes pharmacies for following them elsewhere. Followed by proof that we've been asking for guidance only to be told 'use your judgment'.
Diane

United States

#26 Dec 14, 2012
disgovernment wrote:
http://reason.com/blog/2012/12 /10/war-on-prescription-pain-k illers-leads-t
Interesting.
narc

Tampa, FL

#27 Dec 17, 2012
WAG this wrote:
<quoted text>Walgreens should have PUBLICLY embarrassed the DEA by showing how inconsistent their requirements are as well as showing that their is NO direction from the DEA. They should show that the DEA allows one set of rules and then fines / closes pharmacies for following them elsewhere. Followed by proof that we've been asking for guidance only to be told 'use your judgment'.
This is one of main reasons....the DEA gives us a license to sell these controls...they make the rules regardless how ambiguous they are... Read this link to see what happened to the CVS stores and the reason the DEA say we have to do more than ID patient and call to confirm Rx is legit...they want us to do their investigations against doctors for them, and I believe they don't want us to say doctors are over-prescribing NO MATTER what the patients disease state is... If it is for chronic non-malignant pain...no target drug is appropriate..(DEA's opinion, not mine)
http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/fed_regs/ac...
Sheik Yerbouti

Doylestown, PA

#28 Dec 17, 2012
dea thugs would rather see people suffer just because a tiny minority abuse pain meds. They have no place in the doctor patient relationship. If you are in pain who do you want making treatment decisions-a dea thug with no medical training and a sadistic agenda or a highly trained compassionate physician? I'll take the doctor every time!!
WAG this

United States

#29 Dec 17, 2012
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:
dea thugs would rather see people suffer just because a tiny minority abuse pain meds. They have no place in the doctor patient relationship. If you are in pain who do you want making treatment decisions-a dea thug with no medical training and a sadistic agenda or a highly trained compassionate physician? I'll take the doctor every time!!
You wouldn't feel that way if you saw how out if control it is in some states.
RXM

Chandler, AZ

#30 Dec 17, 2012
WAG this wrote:
<quoted text>
You wouldn't feel that way if you saw how out if control it is in some states.
That is correct...there is a problem in some areas. The problem is that they are trying to take the problem and try to apply the solution nationwide to all doctors and all patients. The DEA needs to go after the doctors that are causing the problem and allow the pharmacists to use their best judgments. If some RXS did tell pharmacists that they HAD to fill all controls no matter what, then the DEA has every right to go after them hard but don't make everyone else suffer for it.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#31 Dec 17, 2012
There is no problem anywhere except the criminalization of drugs in the first place. Legalize all drugs and the price drops, violent crime drops with it, and taxes drop. The drug war has failed miserably and there has been only one winner: law enforcement agencies and the MASSIVE amount of tax payer money they receive.
Dood

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#32 Dec 17, 2012
Thank you, disgovernment. I fully agree with you. We need to do what Portugal did; they decriminalized drugs. They treat it as a medical condition as opposed to a crime, and, as such, people have decided to get help. I believe most people are fearful that admission of addiction is a crime. And because of this, Portugal's drug addiction rates have been cut in half.

I also agree with Sheik's post. Who is the DEA to say who is in pain and who is not?
WAG this

Marion, IN

#33 Dec 17, 2012
It is obvious to an experienced pharmacist who is in pain and who isn't. They just ALL need to back off and let us do our jobs. If I'm comfortable filling it, let me. If I'm not, back me up. It's that simple.
narc

Tampa, FL

#34 Dec 17, 2012
WAG this wrote:
It is obvious to an experienced pharmacist who is in pain and who isn't. They just ALL need to back off and let us do our jobs. If I'm comfortable filling it, let me. If I'm not, back me up. It's that simple.
Simply stated and all that needs to be said...after all, my opinion should NOT be everyone else's clinical opinion (refusal at one Walgreens is a refusal for all). People I feel comfortable filling for should come to me, not my partner, and vice versa. We each have our own license as do the doctors. Just because we work for a chain does not mean we all think or HAVE to think the same way as many different opinions can be supported. Medicine is an art, not an exact science. If a patient does not like my opinion based on my clinical judgement which comes from my schooling and my professional experience, find another provider.
Bert

Las Vegas, NV

#35 Apr 20, 2013
All of this crap comes down to money & thats all simple as that & for all pharmacies & pharmacist to lie & say they dont havÍ in stock isnt very good in faith Walgreens is a joke & needs to just close down obviously too retarded to do a simple job lmao

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#36 Apr 20, 2013
Bert wrote:
All of this crap comes down to money & thats all simple as that & for all pharmacies & pharmacist to lie & say they dont havÍ in stock isnt very good in faith Walgreens is a joke & needs to just close down obviously too retarded to do a simple job lmao
You sound like you may be retarded as well, sir.
Ssj4goku

Hialeah, FL

#37 Apr 22, 2013
Yeah CPO crazy there like no problem 3 day emergency supply for percocets it's fine, just go to pharmacy and ask pharmacist. Lmao
narc

Tampa, FL

#38 May 1, 2013
RacingFan20 wrote:
<quoted text>You sound like you may be retarded as well, sir.
LMFAO!!!
Arthur Clinton Givens

Sacramento, CA

#39 May 30, 2013
Some these comments about the Walgreen pharmacists who stealing drugs are ver sad. I have a number of illnesses that keeps me in severe pain, and without my Opana er 40mgs the pain gets out of controle. A few months ago i went to my Walgreens at 7155 24th Street, Sacramento ca 95824 and the pharmacists gave me 2 bottles of what was suposed to be 60 Opana er 40mg each. When i got home i opend the bottles in front of witnesses. I found only 1 bottle had Opana er 40mgs in it. Eventhough the second bottle had Opana er 40mgs on it, it was a fake. The pain medication had been replaced with cough medicine. I had to suffer severe pain because she was addicted to painkillers hersel and took my own. I went through hell. I tried to get them to give me and my witness a lie detector test but they refused.
WAG this

Marion, IN

#40 May 30, 2013
Arthur Clinton Givens wrote:
Some these comments about the Walgreen pharmacists who stealing drugs are ver sad. I have a number of illnesses that keeps me in severe pain, and without my Opana er 40mgs the pain gets out of controle. A few months ago i went to my Walgreens at 7155 24th Street, Sacramento ca 95824 and the pharmacists gave me 2 bottles of what was suposed to be 60 Opana er 40mg each. When i got home i opend the bottles in front of witnesses. I found only 1 bottle had Opana er 40mgs in it. Eventhough the second bottle had Opana er 40mgs on it, it was a fake. The pain medication had been replaced with cough medicine. I had to suffer severe pain because she was addicted to painkillers hersel and took my own. I went through hell. I tried to get them to give me and my witness a lie detector test but they refused.
If what you say is true, file a police report. They'll watch the video in the pharmacy too see if someone is skimming.
Welcome2Walgreen s

Indianapolis, IN

#41 May 31, 2013
Did you see the Email about Candy Doctors writing for tons of controls , getting caught later , and then lying saying the script pads were stolen ?

Good way to cover up and and deny writing , just say the pads were stolen and not your Orders .

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