Are "Pill Mills" a problem for us here in Columbia South Carolina? When I was very young, which admittedly now was a long time ago, I would occasionally hear peers proclaim, " it's for the money stupid ". I never really wanted to believe that statement in conjunction with the " nature of mankind ". I somehow wanted to believe, in some way, that ...
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#1 Jun 20, 2011
Houston Texas is overrun with pill mills. Stand in line, pay the PA $100.00, they will check your BP and weight then ask you what you want. The prescriptions are filled by a pharmacy working with them. The three prescriptions usually cost $168.00 or more.
#2 Jun 20, 2011
What the medical community is after is the money by violating those Constitutional rights of self incrimination & privacy issues. The government wants to drug test you. Take your DNA and whatever else they determine from your pee.
In Florida: The "government" is forcing the private insurance, the paying citizen regardless of employment and with no drug offenses and no arrest records and with no reason for testing to be drug tested when they use a pain clinic. All doctors that prescribe certain drugs are considered a drug clinic. A drug test invades my Constitutional rights to privacy and the portion of the Constitution for or under self incrimination. The government is collecting my fluids and what can be determined by the test including my DNA to their benefit and attempting to violate the self incrimination part of the Constitution and apply penalties of no pain medication, no disability or welfare or prosecution on what could be a false negative test . You want pain pill for your health problem..get a test. Million being tested at a cost of 850 billed (BCBS) for 6 tests twice a year (1700.00) is a lot of money. In July all persons on food stamps will be drug tested. What is the government going to do..withhold food?
It's all about money, hugh profits and forced medicine at the cost of Constitutional rights
#3 Jun 20, 2011
I have a problem in thought with the financial aspect of feeding the medical / mental health and corrupted Republican politicians that are going to spend far more money in the drug testing for all persons (including those on private insurance) that become a far greater expense to the taxpayer.
I don't want to participate in political corruption. I have done no wrong. Remember the government is paying for the rehabilitation of the addict too when they entrap him under the self incrimination issues of the now medically defunct Constitution by a drug test / mental health evaluation at further government / insurance costs that lead to the financial rewards in medicine with possibly incarceration of the individual as a economic stimulus. Then come the attorney with his hands reaching out on the legalities from violation of the Constitution (self incrimination and Privacy rights) that cleans up the State (s) mess at the Supreme Court level, again, at the expense of the government. Worse scenario: a change of government from democratic to fascism just like their brother Adolf wanted years before.
Remember the Do no harm…except psychiatry that until 2007 had no oath and it's professional demeanor, if any, was based on greed, voodoo, Crystal ball gazing and Tarot card readings for diagnostics and using psychotherapy much like a cheap stage magician in a run down Las Vegas Casino uses hypnotisms (false memory) to make the subject howl like a wolf in front of drunken audience.
Ever entertain why the GP's (doctors) are doling out mind drugs for every ailment under the sun and why those psychiatrists have bogus, "made to order", mental health illnesses based on no medical science and based on whatever falsified research they dream up at their APA HQ that name a mental ailment for every normal person living a normal life? It's the addiction and creation of the couch potato better yet called the Zombie in the public sector that they (with political intent) are creating mind control with all the side effects of health issues so that they can prosper and create a future world domination.(No chance of worrying about their USA vote in the next election too)
Medical mind control is happening in Great Britain, France, Australia, India, Japan, Canada, Brazil the Scandinavian countries and of course Germany the 3rd Reich image is now the rising 4th Reich of political control.
#4 Jun 20, 2011
Think of the power and control by and for the doctors and the psychiatrist when they announce to you ( their gullible patient ) that they are stopping your pain medication or changing it with a mind drug like Neurontin or Cymbalta. You don't want to be a Zombie.(You got brains, read a lot from the testimonies of others on the Internet websites, saw the demise in the mental capacity of friends, neighbors , family and business associates and are not swayed by the propaganda from the medical or mental health profession as dictated to the man of medicine by their drug sales representative for the money kicked back by the prescribed Pharma products or the income provided by those medical lectures given and attended by other "last in their class" medical students and doctors of their "do no wrong" medicine at the Pharma cost.) Find another doctor they state to you if you don't do as they prescribe (It's a threat, isn't it)... Now where do you find a first class doctor doesn't participate in the mind drugging of America? Is your only other options after a severe night of pain or mind zaps to become a crack addict on the street to support your new habit for relieve pain. Money provided by the former vises to our changing laws to relieve the pain comes from home burglaries, prostitution and even gangland murder. The green, green grasses of home are gone.
#5 Jun 20, 2011
The issue of drug tests are argued under the 3rd Amendment, 4th and 5th Amendment.
Fourth Amendment: Guards against unreasonable searches and seizures which is the drug test.
Recently the court in Indiana violated the privacy laws:
Overturning a common law dating back to the English Magna Carta of 1215, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Hoosiers have no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes.
In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a police officer wants to enter a home for any reason or no reason at all, a homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer's entry.
Another hot argument is the Judicial Circuit Courts ordering mental health evaluations which violate the 5th Amendment for Self-incrimination.
The issue of drug testing is another Republican scam being played out in many states with the legislation introduced in the states by the Republicans.
I guess the Republicans have a fantasy for the glory days of the swastika in the introduction of this legislation to pull the wool over the public eye.
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You just can't pluck someone off the street without reasonable cause and then force them to disrobe (give their DNA) because you suspect they may be on drugs. If they don't..then theythe government is going to starve them to death. No food stamps or leave them penniless. The Nazi (1940's) use to ask for "Papers Please" well DNA is like papers. Everything you ever wanted to know for the insurance and government to see.
Privacy is important. It's Constitutional.
I think we have seen the Republicans under the Bush administration violate other important features of our Constitution
The law also facilitates militarized police round-ups and detention of protesters, so called "illegal aliens," "potential terrorists" and other "undesirables" for detention in facilities already contracted for and under construction by Halliburton.
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Make no mistake about it: the de-facto repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act (PCA) is an ominous assault on American democratic tradition and jurisprudence. The 1878 Act, which reads, "Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both," is the only U.S. criminal statute that outlaws military operations directed against the American people under the cover of 'law enforcement.' As such, it has been the best protection we've had against the power-hungry intentions of an unscrupulous and reckless executive, an executive intent on using force to enforce its will.
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George Bush New World Order
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#6 Aug 11, 2011
I have been denied pain meds at a pain clinic in Waco because I tested positive for THC, and didn't clean up.
I have a minor in Political Science from USL, 1972.
I know better than to allow my body fluids to be
taken; I know it is the most invasive form of personal privacy, unimagined by our founding fathers.
Therefore, using the flexibility built in the constitution those laws need to be amended to reflect the times.
I am extremely ill.
My lungs are shot, and I was given a few short years, a few short years ago. But I responded to pain treatment. My blood pressure went down, I gained 5-6 crucial pounds, and was able to travel with my grandchildren.
I am on 'palliative care.'
The doctor in the clinic who took me off Lortab wrote me an Rx for Suboxone. I'm guessing that he didn't read my chart and see my diminished lung capacity. He only saw the THC level, that could cost him his job.
I've read up on Suboxone and I doubt that I'd wake up if I were to use this drug, but I could get from $15-45/film, then I could trade drugs. Imagine the indignity! I did not and will not fill this Rx.
I think that the pill mills may be doing a service to the community. Addicts are going to find what they want, or maybe something worse that is easily available and cleans out of the system more quickly, like crack.
I understand that clinics must protect themselves against liabiliy from abuse of drugs that they prescribe, as well other drugs that would have lethal synergistic potential.
But THC is not one of them, nor is it TX law that it be part of the drug screen.
Gov Perry's, appointed (I think) medical review board appears to enforce THC testing.
I would love to find a NORML attorney who would like to get a case like mine to the Supreme Court.
I've always wanted to meet Justice Ginsberg.
#7 Aug 17, 2011
It is sad when an out of control rogue agency like the dea sets the standards for palliative care! They seem to be sadists that would rather see people suffer than be able to use a non addictive harmless plant to improve their quality of life! When will this madness end? The obama administration is just as guilty as rethug administrations when it comes to medical cannabis! He lost my vote forever!
#8 Aug 21, 2011
'Big Brother' or the all intrusive Gov't isn't here as of yet. What we do have is a out of control hunger of a few addicts who find it inconvienient to get on a legal program. some don't use drugs,or do- they simply find it lucrative monitarily to feed their habit and make a whole lot of dough doing it. Uncontrollable as it is to curtail a drug using purvasive populace, mostly recreational, the police or whoever,get jaded. The real victims are the ones caught up in the mess. We aren't going to win the war on drugs as the monitary incentives both pharmaceutical companies and Medicare fraud are massive. As the baby boomers age the need for the care is going to be heavy. The penalties are harsh enough for sure. The white collar criminals are doing well enough. he ones unable to afford lawyers end up costing a dispropportionate amount to local and State jails and prisons.
#10 Aug 30, 2011
When you look at how dysfuncional our Congress is, it is no wonder folks need Pain Pills.
#11 Sep 3, 2011
RE: Dear Shiek, Go to the CSA of 1970,That started a paperwork and expensive Hi Tech armaments. A inquiry to the evidence of zero tolerance. Make no mistake the generals and the Federal DEA agents are may times corrupt. Go to the disipinary Consumer Affairs for info on a minority culpable greed driven Dr's. Although than have dishonored the public at large.Some Dr's have given 1,000 Oxys to one patient in less than a month.
#12 Sep 3, 2011
Yes-BIG MONEY, BIG TROUBLES, BIG PROFIT, Pharma's, AMA LOT'S OF coveting things. MORE IS BETTER?
#13 Oct 30, 2011
'why repeat the same cycle' ... If big brother tries to turn 2012 and oxys into 1980 and crack their starting a losing battle.. Believe it or not pills are keeping the hard core drug use in the hood down.. But since pills are hurting middle america its a new epidemic..get ya mind right..sparktown
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