McCain Protests YouTube DMCA Takedowns

Oct 15, 2008 | Posted by: Iria | Full story: technologyexpert.blogspot.com

Oh, the irony. When the Digital Millenium Copyright Act (DMCA) was passed in 1998, it was passed by a unanimous vote in the U.S. Senate. So we know John McCain sure didn't vote against it. In either case, we know Barack Obama didn't vote for it.
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“Love of $ is the Root of Evil”

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^^^

Fear is a good ally of the republicans...

The DMCA was a poorly written bill that nobody stood against because the didn't want to be labeled as socialist who support media piracy.

In Canada... there is literally a political party called the "Pirate Party" ...IP law is much more advance in CA then here in the US, so they accept such things as reality instead of covering them up like it doesn't exist...

The music industry is a prime example of fear destroying an industry. If the majors were smart, insead of investing millions into lawyers at the RIAA, they would have created iTunes themselves... iTunes is the largest grossing revenue store on the internet these days. AND... piracy still exist on the internet.

That is the proof... you can have it both ways..

The ideal future is one where capitalism and socialism can co-exist for the benefit of all.

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Why does it take YouTube to explain to Senator McCain that its the law? Bottom of the classer seems clueless here so I am asking what all that legislative experience is supposed to amount to if it results in a judgment that practically screams senility?
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Yes. Benefit of "all" is the reason I vote for Obama. Capitalism is the only reason I need to NOT vote for another Republican.

I care for the poor and the working class. I care nothing for the rich no matter who they are. Our money represents resources in our country, and for anyone to take a large chink and tuck it away for their own selfishness, while the poor are struggling, is unethical to me.

And thats why we need several thousand Robin Hoods in this country to take back what really belongs to the working class.

F!CK THE RICH.

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Aging Hippy wrote:
Why does it take YouTube to explain to Senator McCain that its the law? Bottom of the classer seems clueless here so I am asking what all that legislative experience is supposed to amount to if it results in a judgment that practically screams senility?
Aging Hippy - I'm giving the McCain camp more credit than simply not knowing the law. I think it's more that they ran up against the same DMCA side-effect that many people hit, and it frustrated them. Like the article mentioned regarding the baby dancing to the Prince song. Should be legal even under DMCA but no one wants to bother to fight it. So Youtube just takes it down. Same with McCain using music or TV news video. Easier for Youtube just to take it down than try to analyze it to see if maybe it's legal.

So the McCain campaign feels it's being treated unfairly and sends Youtube a memo in a feeble attempt to have more spine in their case(s).

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But case in point... if you use footage from one network without permission, it is copyright infringement.

McCain's media people should have known better.
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Aging Hippy wrote:
Why does it take YouTube to explain to Senator McCain that its the law? Bottom of the classer seems clueless here so I am asking what all that legislative experience is supposed to amount to if it results in a judgment that practically screams senility?
As Donald Trump he says McCain is brilliant about politics and the economy. I think you are projecting your own mental problems on Mac.

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silly old putts mcain!

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PentagonEyeDoctor wrote:
Yes. Benefit of "all" is the reason I vote for Obama. Capitalism is the only reason I need to NOT vote for another Republican.
I care for the poor and the working class. I care nothing for the rich no matter who they are. Our money represents resources in our country, and for anyone to take a large chink and tuck it away for their own selfishness, while the poor are struggling, is unethical to me.
And thats why we need several thousand Robin Hoods in this country to take back what really belongs to the working class.
F!CK THE RICH.
The above deranged self-serving punk should relocate to North Korea and wallow around in his beloved socialism. BTW, Robin Hood took money from tax collectors, tyrants and returned it...Rich Tax Collectors just like Obama...you ignorant bastard.

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For those who understand "honor" this two minute privately funded clip from an Iraq War Veteran is well worth the wait to download.

Dear Mr. Obama…
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Over 10,350,000 views.

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A bit of history hiding behind the ideology of Barack Obama's associate Bill Ayers…

Approved by the All-Russia Central Executive Committee of the Soviets of Workers’, Soldiers’, Peasants’ and Cossacks’ Deputies, April 22, 1918.

I__ a son of the working people and a citizen of the Soviet Republic, assume the title of a soldier of the Workers’ and Peasants’ Red Army.
Before the working class of Russia and of the whole world I pledge myself to bear this title with honor, to study the art of war conscientiously, and to protect, like the apple of my eye, all public and military property from damage and robbery.
I pledge myself to observe revolutionary discipline strictly and unflaggingly, and to obey without question all orders given by commanders appointed by the Workers’ and Peasants’ Government.
I pledge myself to abstain from any action derogatory to the dignity of a citizen of the Soviet Republic, and to restrain my comrades from such action, and to direct all my thoughts and deeds towards the great goal of the emancipation of all the working people.
I pledge myself to respond to the first call from the Workers’ and Peasants’ Government to defend the Soviet Republic against any dangers and attacks from any enemy, and to spare neither my strength nor my life in the fight for the Russian Soviet Republic and for the cause of socialism and the brotherhood of the peoples.
If ever, with evil intent, I should depart from this my solemn promise, may the scorn of all be my lot and may the stern hand of revolutionary law punish me.

Some political views from Barack Obama's associate, Bill Ayers...

In an interview published in 1995, Ayers characterized his political beliefs at that time and in the 1960s and 1970s: "I am a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist ...[Laughs] Maybe I'm the last communist who is willing to admit it.[Laughs] We have always been small 'c' communists in the sense that we were never in the [Communist] party and never Stalinists. The ethics of Communism still appeal to me. I don't like Lenin as much as the early Marx. I also like Henry David Thoreau, Mother Jones and Jane Addams [...]"[27] In 1970 Ayers was called "a national leader"[28] of the Weatherman organization and "one of the chief theoreticians of the Weathermen".[ 29] The Weathermen were initially part of the Revolutionary Youth Movement (RYM) within the SDS, splitting from the RYM's Maoists by claiming there was no time to build a vanguard party and that revolutionary war against the United States government and the capitalist system should begin immediately. Their founding document called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonia l" movements[30] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."[3 1] In June 1974, the Weather Underground released a 151-page volume titled Prairie Fire, which stated: "We are a guerrilla organization [...] We are communist women and men underground in the United States

Barack Obama was not 8 years old when he launched his political career from the home of Bill Ayers. Or was Barack Obama 8 years old when he served on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago with Bill Ayers. Barack Obama shares much of the political ideology of Bill Ayers...He will not admit it just like he will not readily admit his association with Rev. Jeremiah Wright for 20 years is a mistake or that the Troop Surge has been successful or will he acknowledge the fact he never stood against his own party. Obama's stick in the mud attitude and numerous associations with anti-Americanism zealots should be of much concern and raise red flags.
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Subject: FW: 143 Days

You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143 days of experience.

You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience of being a surgeon.

You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.

You couldn't join the military and become even a Seargent after a 143 days of experience.

You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor after 143 days of experience.

You couldn't work for a construction company as a laborer and become a journeyman in 143 days.

You can't even get a job with a sanitation company and become the truck driver in 143 days.


BUT....

From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the
time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he
logged 143 days of experience in the Senate. That's how many days the Senate
was actually in session and working.

After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of George Washington, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan. 143 days.

AND, strangely, a large sector of the Stupid American public is okay with this and campaigning for him. We wouldn't accept this in our own line of work, yet some are okay with this for the President of the United States of America ?

Come on folks, we are not voting for the next American Idol !

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The Washington Post peeks into the sausage-making aspects of Capitol Hill legislating, and discovers that Barack Obama and Joe Biden have a longer partnership than first thought. Obama pursued over $3 million in earmarks for Biden’s son, at the same time that Biden claims he didn’t get personally lobbied by Hunter Biden for his clients. Obama apparently provided the necessary cover for his wingman:
Sen. Barack Obama sought more than $3.4 million in congressional earmarks for clients of the lobbyist son of his Democratic running mate, Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. of Delaware, records show. Obama succeeded in getting $192,000 for one of the clients, St. Xavier University in suburban Chicago.
Obama’s campaign has taken a hard stance against the world of lobbying in the nation’s capital. Obama said he limits his own efforts to get money for pet projects — a process known as earmarking — to those that benefit the public. He has posted his earmark requests on his presidential campaign Web site to encourage transparency.…
An analysis for The Washington Post by Taxpayers for Common Sense of Hunter Biden’s firm’s lobbying business found that its clients collected $2.7 million in earmarks in the last fiscal year.
Their investment in Hunter Biden’s salary has paid large dividends. With so many friends among his father’s colleagues, Hunter didn’t need to meet with Dad to score pork for his clients. It’s a sterling example of how members of Congress offer hypocritical sanctimony on their relations with lobbyists while ensuring that family and friends get their share from the public trough.
One particularly interesting case involves a private Catholic university. Democrats insist that school vouchers for urban parents would violate the Constitution because the parents might choose to send their children to parochial schools. However, since Hunter Biden signed St. Xavier University, a four-year, 5,600-student institution run by the Roman Catholic Sisters of Mercy in Orland Park, IL as a client, he has managed to secure them over $300,000 in federal grants. Hunter specifically landed St. Xavier U after telling them he could get them government pork.
This is the kind of activity against which Barack Obama inveighs on the campaign trail. While in the Senate, though, he enables it through these kind of quid pro quo arrangements that give the appearance that Biden has no conflict of interest. In contrast, John McCain doesn’t do earmarks at all — not for himself, not for his friends, and not for his political allies.
One candidate talks the talk, and one candidate walks the walk. The former picked a porker who took almost $7 million from lobbyists and lawyers over the last 20 years, sources which this candidate has demonized for months on the stump. The latter wants to end the practice altogether and promises a confrontation with both parties in Congress if elected. Which candidate will actually try to bring change to Washington?
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I wonder if we will be able to watch Representative John Murtha (D-Pa) statement of today when he stated the people of western Pennsylvania are all white racists but the rest of the Pennsylvania will carry the state for Obama.

Also will be able to see Representative John Lewis (D-Ga) comparing John McCain to George Wallace or how about seeing Representative Acee Hastings (D-Fl) stating Governor Palin is a Nazi. Then we have Howard Dean stating that the Republican Party is the party of white people.

If these statements were made by Republicans the media and Obama would be demanding apologies. It appears that the media only takes umbrage when a Republican makes a racially divisive statement.

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Aging Hippy - I'm giving the McCain camp more credit than simply not knowing the law. I think it's more that they ran up against the same DMCA side-effect that many people hit, and it frustrated them. Like the article mentioned regarding the baby dancing to the Prince song. Should be legal even under DMCA but no one wants to bother to fight it. So Youtube just takes it down. Same with McCain using music or TV news video. Easier for Youtube just to take it down than try to analyze it to see if maybe it's legal.
So the McCain campaign feels it's being treated unfairly and sends Youtube a memo in a feeble attempt to have more spine in their case(s).
Forgive me but I understood all that from the article. So like I said, the McCain camp frustrated too easily and researches too little. It's a poorly constructed law so given that YouTube isn't the only one having difficulty and laws are the business of legislators, you might think, or at least I would, that there might be some awareness? But given the number of instances the McCain campaign has run into copyright problems, I guess we can conclude the lack of awareness runs pretty deep.
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Tom D, there is no college or university for teaching a candidate to be the next president.

Clinton has also discussed how he had to learn the machinations of being president when he was president.

You are right, we are not voting for the American Idol because we don't need someone who can sing (as in Songbird a la McCain) but who is intelligent and smart and who can think and who can listen and who is honest and who is a leader.

If experience is your yard stick, then Bush 2 in his second term should have had all the experience a president would need. And according to his ratings he has not passed the "experience test" with a flying A Plus.

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Below is from Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky, the guru for community organizers and the role model for Barack Obama‘s campaign to screw you and your country...

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevski said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution. To bring on this reformation requires that the organizer work inside the system, among not only the middle class but the 40 per cent of American families - more than seventy million people - whose income range from $5,000 to $10,000 a year [in 1971]. They cannot be dismissed by labeling them blue collar or hard hat. They will not continue to be relatively passive and slightly challenging. If we fail to communicate with them, if we don't encourage them to form alliances with us, they will move to the right. Maybe they will anyway, but let's not let it happen by default."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky

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As Donald Trump he says McCain is brilliant about politics and the economy. I think you are projecting your own mental problems on Mac.
Sorry but I don't buy what the Donald says on this, conflict of interest and all. He might say that to help elect an idiot just to keep his tax bracket low. And it's especially not credible when so much evidence points the other way. Wanna hear some?

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But case in point... if you use footage from one network without permission, it is copyright infringement.
McCain's media people should have known better.
Thanks, that was my point too.

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Baby Alex wrote:
Obama Hood is right around the corner. Hang on to your cash because Obama wants to give it to the hood.
And how would that effect your broke ass?

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<quoted text>Forgive me but I understood all that from the article. So like I said, the McCain camp frustrated too easily and researches too little. It's a poorly constructed law so given that YouTube isn't the only one having difficulty and laws are the business of legislators, you might think, or at least I would, that there might be some awareness? But given the number of instances the McCain campaign has run into copyright problems, I guess we can conclude the lack of awareness runs pretty deep.
Could certainly be I'm crediting them for being much more savvy than they really are.

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