Lillelid Defendant Karen Howell Seeki...

Lillelid Defendant Karen Howell Seeking 'Evidentiary Hearing'

There are 34 comments on the The Greenville Sun story from Jun 26, 2007, titled Lillelid Defendant Karen Howell Seeking 'Evidentiary Hearing'. In it, The Greenville Sun reports that:

“These claims were adjudicated by the state courts.”

U.S. District Judge Ronnie Greer is weighing whether to grant an "evidentiary hearing" in a young Kentucky woman's bid to overturn her 1998 state-court conviction in the Lillelid murder case. via The Greenville Sun

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Kailua Kona, HI

#1 Jul 4, 2007
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wake up

Johnson City, TN

#2 Dec 1, 2012
wat's this mean?
Roman

Temple City, CA

#3 Feb 20, 2014
Namor

United States

#4 Jul 5, 2014
Justice served! Denied appeal
Electra41

Knoxville, TN

#5 Jul 20, 2015
Roman wrote:
Password, please.
Park

Greeneville, TN

#6 Jul 21, 2015
She should be free! She said she was sorry!
Yup

Greeneville, TN

#7 Mar 28, 2017
Yup

Greeneville, TN

#8 Mar 28, 2017
Yup wrote:
https://www.facebook.com/Justi ce-for-Karen-Howell-1000202430 003410/
They should never be released
Looters colors

Greeneville, TN

#9 Mar 28, 2017
They should hang those losers and do the world a favor
Letter from Strugill

Jonesborough, TN

#10 Mar 28, 2017
Crystall Sturgill's Letter

Tuesday, March 28, 2017
I would like to take this opportunity to apologize, not just to the Lillelid family, but to the community. I realize that my inability to act altered more lives than I can imagine. While it is of little, if any, consolation I have spent the past 20 years trying to atone. I cannot change history, only use the life I have been granted to try to make a positive impact in the world I now know.

I am no longer the broken shell of a girl who was too afraid to stand up on that gravel road. I still struggle with the scars that so many years of abuse left me with, but the woman I have grown into would have done more than hide her face and cry that day. She would fight for what she knows is right, even if that put her in the path of danger.

I think every day about what happened, but I also think of faces that I saw in the courtroom. Some were faces I knew, those of my family and of the families of my codefendants, but there was also a child often present. I never knew who that girl was, but I will never forget the looks of raw pain she gave me. That child has had more impact on my life than she will ever know. I have prayed that I might one day soothe the hurt she felt and still feels. I don't know if she will see this but want to tell her that I am so sorry. I would give anything to be able to change what happened. If there is ever anything I can do for you please do not hesitate to ask.

Crystal Sturgill
no remorse monsters

Greeneville, TN

#11 Mar 28, 2017
Yup wrote:
<quoted text> They should never be released
They should never be released EVER. Just because she said that she was sorry. Oh waaa cry me a river. If sorry works. Then the man who shot and killed my cousin would be out of prison. But nope sorry doesnt get ya no wheres. Those kids new what they where out to do and they did it. So no nothing should be done any different. Their sentence should be the death penalty. That lil boy has a life that i wouldnt wish on my worse enemy. He has to live with the fact that he watched his family be brutally murdered right in front of him and he was just a toddler then. Id say he still wakes up from nightmares still to this day. I think. Now this is my opinion now. They should take the shooter and the rest and make the shooter watch his friends be shot exactly lile he shot the family and then let him live awhile with that on his consciousness and then kill him. Theem kids couldnt have had a conscious bone in their bodies. To do something like. They tried to play the satan made me do it card and it didnt work and it wont. They need to be set on death row. That should be fair enough. I feel so sorry for peter lilliled. I think i spelled that right. Anyways. His grandmother took him back to sweden to live. Because the usa has bad memories that will linger on for the rest of his days. Bless his heart.
Letter from Howell

Jonesborough, TN

#13 Mar 28, 2017
Karen Howell's Letter

Tuesday, March 28, 2017
My case has affected so many; the community, family, friends...it goes on without end. Some of the bad personal experiences I had as a child had a huge effect on me- pain, confusion, anger, low self-worth, etc. I think a lot of children are never taught how to deal with or voice those kinds of emotions when bad things happen, so wounds lay open in silence. I think that is when kids begin to make poor choices. I think many could identify with that. Those feelings stayed with me for years because I didn't know how to process and deal with them. Being quiet and reserved meant I didn't have the best communication skills. I guess you could call it an "arrested development" stage. It's where wounds from your childhood hinder your mental and emotional development.

A lot of my childhood experiences I allowed to define me and as a result I began to make poor decisions. I ran away from home on several occasions and quit school at an early age, some of it due to bullying. Out of curiosity (as many kids do) I dabbled into stuff that I shouldn't have. At one point I did start to get my life back on track for a while, studying for my GED and babysitting for my family for many hours a day and saving money to buy a car (money which the DA for some reason claimed that I "stole", even after my family stated otherwise). But at some point I lost myself again and found myself in bad situations and looking for validation in wrong company at times. It caused my life to begin another downward spiral. It ultimately led to me being here.

As I write this, I realize it may seem to some that I'm feeling sorry for myself. But that is so far from the truth. I've always held myself accountable for my actions in life, even the bad ones and by no means do I ever get so self-absorbed that I pity myself. I simply want the public to see that 17-year old girl that I was as an individual, not what the various lies pumped out by the media over the past two decades have made me out to be.
Letter from Howell

Jonesborough, TN

#15 Mar 28, 2017
There is much speculation from different sources regarding what happened on April 6, 1997. The media ran with the initial fear and hysteria and hyped it all up so much that it has twisted the facts, much of it due to distortions of the truth by the D.A. I want to clear some those things up right now:

We were not a "cult". None of us even hung out as a group. I knew Dean Mullins from school. We were cool, but we never just hung out together. Natasha and I were good friends and hung out every so often on weekends, but I stayed busy working and she had what was going on in her personal life. I dated Joe for about a month, but he lived far away and we only hung out every so often as well. I knew Crystal from school, but not well.

I had only met Jason Bryant a day or two prior to the crime through Natasha. I knew he was "off" and he portrayed himself to be big and bad from the jump, mostly because he had some obsession with wanting to impress Natasha. He claimed to be 17 but he was actually only 14. I had no idea that he had a violent past and found out later that he'd pushed someone down a flight of stairs among other things.

So no…we were never a "cult".

There were no "Satanic rituals" performed over the bodies.

There was no moving the bodies into the shape of a cross (how the D.A. got that one I'll never know!).

There was no "taking turns" shooting that poor family. All of it was done by Jason Bryant alone (when my clothes were tested at the lab I had no gunshot residue or blood from the victims on my clothing).

All lies heaped upon an already tragic happening to hype it more.

Like anyone else, I have made a lot of mistakes in my life. The biggest (and final) one was when I ran away from home with five other people in April of '97. If I had known that there was going to be murder or death in any way, I would never have left home. I may have been a troubled kid, but anyone who knew me could tell you that I was no killer, ESPECIALLY not a child killer.

But I didn't do anything about the robbery and kidnapping, which has haunted my heart and mind since that day. Joe Risner, who was my boyfriend at the time, had a car that was in no condition to get us to our destination. After several unsuccessful attempts by Jason to hotwire a car for us there began a discussion among them of robbing someone for theirs. Later that day at the rest stop when it actually started to happen, I just went along with it, not dreaming anyone would actually get hurt, much less killed.

It was a moment in time that would forever change my life.

Getting back to what happened, there is no need to rehash the kidnapping as that is one of the few things that they actually got right in the telling of the story. Joe pulled the gun out and kidnapped the family, promising that they wouldn't be hurt. As we drove along Jason became more vocal about things, telling little Tabitha to "shut the *** up!" when she began crying, etc. It's after we arrived at Payne Hollow Road that the story starts to get twisted in the media telling of the tale.
Letter from Howell

Jonesborough, TN

#18 Mar 28, 2017
Anyone who knows or knew me could tell you that I was no killer, nor would I ever approve in the murder of anyone. I have never had a murderous or violent bone in my body. To suggest otherwise is silly. I was simply a screwed-up kid with poor coping skills and an inability to process or deal with stressful situations. This was the most frightening and stressful situation of my 17 year old life, so naturally I didn't deal with it the way a "healthy" or "normal" kid MIGHT have.

I say might, because nobody truly knows how they would react in a situation such as that. Things happen so fast and it's all so insane. If only they'd considered that before deciding that I was some sort of evil person with murder in my heart and blood on my mind. Nothing could be further from the truth. I was 17 years old then. I am 37 now. I've grown up so much in prison. And even though it's been 20 years my heart still weeps for the heartache that family and friends had to endure, and my tears still fall for the victims of the crime. There is not a day that goes by that I don't think about Peter Lillelid and wonder how he is doing. I've always hoped that his heart is beautiful and that the tragedy of what happened to his family didn't cast a shadow over it.

I don't believe that I deserve to die in prison for murder. I never thought or ever wanted or intended that someone would die. That's never been who I was, then or now. In my own heart I have never stopped hoping and believing that maybe one day I'll have the chance of walking out of prison. Even on days when my hope feels lost, my faith still remains.

Thanks for reading this.
Karen Howell
Yup

Greeneville, TN

#19 Mar 28, 2017
no remorse monsters wrote:
<quoted text>

They should never be released EVER. Just because she said that she was sorry. Oh waaa cry me a river. If sorry works. Then the man who shot and killed my cousin would be out of prison. But nope sorry doesnt get ya no wheres. Those kids new what they where out to do and they did it. So no nothing should be done any different. Their sentence should be the death penalty. That lil boy has a life that i wouldnt wish on my worse enemy. He has to live with the fact that he watched his family be brutally murdered right in front of him and he was just a toddler then. Id say he still wakes up from nightmares still to this day. I think. Now this is my opinion now. They should take the shooter and the rest and make the shooter watch his friends be shot exactly lile he shot the family and then let him live awhile with that on his consciousness and then kill him. Theem kids couldnt have had a conscious bone in their bodies. To do something like. They tried to play the satan made me do it card and it didnt work and it wont. They need to be set on death row. That should be fair enough. I feel so sorry for peter lilliled. I think i spelled that right. Anyways. His grandmother took him back to sweden to live. Because the usa has bad memories that will linger on for the rest of his days. Bless his heart.
I couldn't believe there is a FB dedicated to her & releasing her. I think the best punishment is to let her rot in prison, she wants out so bad. I would say kill her like she did to Lillelid's but, then it's over. This way she sits there til she dies of old age.
Letter from Howell

Jonesborough, TN

#20 Mar 28, 2017
Yup wrote:
<quoted text> I couldn't believe there is a FB dedicated to her & releasing her. I think the best punishment is to let her rot in prison, she wants out so bad. I would say kill her like she did to Lillelid's but, then it's over. This way she sits there til she dies of old age.
I agree.
NobodyUKno

Greeneville, TN

#21 Mar 29, 2017
Looters colors wrote:
They should hang those losers and do the world a favor
Amen! Hang all six of them from the highest tree in Greene County! Her punk ass is only sorry it got caught!
nunya

Knoxville, TN

#22 Mar 30, 2017
Burn in Hell bitches. You did the crimes now finish your time. Killed the father the mother and a child an innocent little girl. Took 20 years to come up with another scheme. What to stick the survivor's nose in it and beat him with a board?
OLD CROW

Johnson City, TN

#23 Mar 30, 2017
Letter from Howell wrote:
Karen Howell's Letter

Tuesday, March 28, 2017
My case has affected so many; the community, family, friends...it goes on without end. Some of the bad personal experiences I had as a child had a huge effect on me- pain, confusion, anger, low self-worth, etc. I think a lot of children are never taught how to deal with or voice those kinds of emotions when bad things happen, so wounds lay open in silence. I think that is when kids begin to make poor choices. I think many could identify with that. Those feelings stayed with me for years because I didn't know how to process and deal with them. Being quiet and reserved meant I didn't have the best communication skills. I guess you could call it an "arrested development" stage. It's where wounds from your childhood hinder your mental and emotional development.

A lot of my childhood experiences I allowed to define me and as a result I began to make poor decisions. I ran away from home on several occasions and quit school at an early age, some of it due to bullying. Out of curiosity (as many kids do) I dabbled into stuff that I shouldn't have. At one point I did start to get my life back on track for a while, studying for my GED and babysitting for my family for many hours a day and saving money to buy a car (money which the DA for some reason claimed that I "stole", even after my family stated otherwise). But at some point I lost myself again and found myself in bad situations and looking for validation in wrong company at times. It caused my life to begin another downward spiral. It ultimately led to me being here.

As I write this, I realize it may seem to some that I'm feeling sorry for myself. But that is so far from the truth. I've always held myself accountable for my actions in life, even the bad ones and by no means do I ever get so self-absorbed that I pity myself. I simply want the public to see that 17-year old girl that I was as an individual, not what the various lies pumped out by the media over the past two decades have made me out to be.
Very well written!
IMP

Johnson City, TN

#24 Mar 30, 2017
Guess nobody has ever heard of forgiveness! I believe that they have served there time now. From what I have read here and from the documentaries I have seen on them and their lives they never had a chance! That's not excusing them or what they did by no means!! They definitely deserved punishment. The shooter/ driver deserved the death penalty! The rest had no control over what was going on. BUT since there was so many of you you should have overpowered him and took the weapon and let the family go! I would of lost MY OWN life to let others live just saying! Like one of you said though you don't know what you would do until your in that situation. I do honestly believe there was no "devil worshiping" either! I have seen that stuff first hand and there was no evidence of that at all in this case. It was made up to make it more interesting for the media and to sell papers!

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