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There are 23 comments on the The Mobile Register Online story from Aug 17, 2009, titled Our View: Alabama Death Row inmate Thomas Arthur's Dna tests don't.... In it, The Mobile Register Online reports that:

Death Row inmate Thomas Arthur's DNA wasn't found on a wig worn by Troy Wicker's killer, nor on the clothes worn the day of the murder by Wicker's wife.

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Mary Neal

Stone Mountain, GA

#1 Sep 4, 2009
Please note that according to The Birmingham News (8/11/09), an Alabama D.A. will seek a death warrant for Thomas Arthur. Judge Pulliam reportedly sealed his DNA results, preventing his attorneys from notifying the public that Alabama is preparing to execute a man whose DNA test results prove his innocence, a man who requests to have his DNA tested further against other crime scene evidence. I run into much censorship and cyberstalking to prevent posting this news. I do not think it is because the justice system is ashamed of its actions, but simply would like to enjoy Arthur's execution in peace and quiet.

My website - http://wrongfuldeathoflarryneal.com

Assistance to the Incarcerated Mentally Ill
http://www.Care2.com/c2c/group/AIMI

Nautilus1

Since: Feb 09

Jupiter, FL

#2 Sep 4, 2009
"He was a likely suspect. He admits he was having an affair with Mrs. Wicker, he had killed before, and he was on work release at the time of Wicker's death"

Thats good enough for me, execute
Dont kill in my name

AOL

#3 Sep 4, 2009
Nautilus1 wrote:
"He was a likely suspect. He admits he was having an affair with Mrs. Wicker, he had killed before, and he was on work release at the time of Wicker's death"
Thats good enough for me, execute
1. Being a "likely suspect" is a far cry from "beyond a reasonable doubt".

2. Having an affair is not cause for the d.p.

3. Previous crimes are not at question in the current proceedings.

4. Being on work release at the time of Wicker's death is circumstantial.

Motion to execute is hereby DENIED.

Nautilus1

Since: Feb 09

Jupiter, FL

#4 Sep 4, 2009
Dont kill in my name wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Being a "likely suspect" is a far cry from "beyond a reasonable doubt".
2. Having an affair is not cause for the d.p.
3. Previous crimes are not at question in the current proceedings.
4. Being on work release at the time of Wicker's death is circumstantial.
Motion to execute is hereby DENIED.


Dream on this guy is guilty and will be executed. The judge got it right.
Mary Neal

Stone Mountain, GA

#5 Sep 5, 2009
If the court and prosecutors feel Thomas Arthur is guilty, why deny DNA tests for decades?

When Arthur finally had the opportunity to take the DNA test and pass it this year, why hide the results from the world that his DNA does not match the crime scene evidence tested?

It is a shame when courts and D.A.'s would rather kill than admit a mistake. Sounds like murder.

Nautilus1

Since: Feb 09

Jupiter, FL

#6 Sep 5, 2009
Mary Neal wrote:
If the court and prosecutors feel Thomas Arthur is guilty, why deny DNA tests for decades?
When Arthur finally had the opportunity to take the DNA test and pass it this year, why hide the results from the world that his DNA does not match the crime scene evidence tested?
It is a shame when courts and D.A.'s would rather kill than admit a mistake. Sounds like murder.
The only mistake was releasing him after the first murder
Dont kill in my name

AOL

#7 Sep 5, 2009
Mary Neal wrote:
If the court and prosecutors feel Thomas Arthur is guilty, why deny DNA tests for decades?
When Arthur finally had the opportunity to take the DNA test and pass it this year, why hide the results from the world that his DNA does not match the crime scene evidence tested?
It is a shame when courts and D.A.'s would rather kill than admit a mistake. Sounds like murder.
I agree.
The only time an agency is going to deny/conceal DNA test results is when they will show something other than what the agency has claimed.

Stinks, doesn't it?
honor

San Antonio, TX

#8 Sep 5, 2009
Mary Neal wrote:
Please note that according to The Birmingham News (8/11/09), an Alabama D.A. will seek a death warrant for Thomas Arthur. Judge Pulliam reportedly sealed his DNA results, preventing his attorneys from notifying the public that Alabama is preparing to execute a man whose DNA test results prove his innocence, a man who requests to have his DNA tested further against other crime scene evidence. I run into much censorship and cyberstalking to prevent posting this news. I do not think it is because the justice system is ashamed of its actions, but simply would like to enjoy Arthur's execution in peace and quiet.
My website - http://wrongfuldeathoflarryneal.com
Assistance to the Incarcerated Mentally Ill
http://www.Care2.com/c2c/group/AIMI
--PLEASE execute him as soon as possible since he has killed before--and please make his execution as painful and as long as possible--the victims of this murderer will be forever grateful--put him down like the rabid dog he is

Nautilus1

Since: Feb 09

Jupiter, FL

#9 Sep 5, 2009
Dont kill in my name wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree.
The only time an agency is going to deny/conceal DNA test results is when they will show something other than what the agency has claimed.
Stinks, doesn't it?
Why waste the money on him.
Mary Neal

Stone Mountain, GA

#10 Sep 5, 2009
Nautilus1, perhaps you have some info we don't have to feel so positive that Arthur is guilty. The DNA tests show he is not the murderer. Do you understand the significance of that? Hundreds of people have been exonerated and freed from prison due to the fact that their DNA did not match that of the murderer on crime scene evidence. Why not Arthur? Is there some other reason this man is so hated that a court would hide his DNA evidence and the state kill him despite his innocence? And when is the public meant to find out that Arthur's DNA test came back and he has been eliminated as the source of the DNA left on crime scene evidence? Four or five years after his execution like the man Texas killed for an arson that never happened?

My attempts to alert the public about Arthur's DNA results have been met with intense censorship and cyberstalking, but we did manage to get a front page story on Care2 to run. Prisoner activists groups know about it. It seems the justice system ought to care that people perceive it to be so unjust as to ignore actual innocence. Attorney General Holder recently said that it is time for those in the justice system to prioritize fairness, not just procedure. I think we all should write to Atty. Gen. Holder about Arthur and ask that he have the judge to unseal this man's DNA results. I think Holder can do that.
karie

Miranda, Australia

#11 Sep 5, 2009
Mary Neal wrote:
If the court and prosecutors feel Thomas Arthur is guilty, why deny DNA tests for decades?
When Arthur finally had the opportunity to take the DNA test and pass it this year, why hide the results from the world that his DNA does not match the crime scene evidence tested?
It is a shame when courts and D.A.'s would rather kill than admit a mistake. Sounds like murder.
Exactly- no admissions of error, no apologies.

Nautilus1

Since: Feb 09

Jupiter, FL

#12 Sep 5, 2009
Mary Neal wrote:
Nautilus1, perhaps you have some info we don't have to feel so positive that Arthur is guilty. The DNA tests show he is not the murderer. Do you understand the significance of that? Hundreds of people have been exonerated and freed from prison due to the fact that their DNA did not match that of the murderer on crime scene evidence. Why not Arthur? Is there some other reason this man is so hated that a court would hide his DNA evidence and the state kill him despite his innocence? And when is the public meant to find out that Arthur's DNA test came back and he has been eliminated as the source of the DNA left on crime scene evidence? Four or five years after his execution like the man Texas killed for an arson that never happened?
My attempts to alert the public about Arthur's DNA results have been met with intense censorship and cyberstalking, but we did manage to get a front page story on Care2 to run. Prisoner activists groups know about it. It seems the justice system ought to care that people perceive it to be so unjust as to ignore actual innocence. Attorney General Holder recently said that it is time for those in the justice system to prioritize fairness, not just procedure. I think we all should write to Atty. Gen. Holder about Arthur and ask that he have the judge to unseal this man's DNA results. I think Holder can do that.
Why don't you read the balance of the evidence and also factor in his previous murder.

Nautilus1

Since: Feb 09

Jupiter, FL

#13 Sep 5, 2009
karie wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly- no admissions of error, no apologies.
Wicker's wife, Judy, initially claimed an intruder broke into her home, raped her and killed her husband. Later, in a deal to get out of prison, she testified she'd hired Arthur for the murder. Presumably, Arthur helped her stage the rape, too.

He was a likely suspect. He admits he was having an affair with Mrs. Wicker, he had killed before, and he was on work release at the time of Wicker's death. But so far, at least, his DNA has not turned up in the evidence collected at the crime scene. Semen on Mrs. Wicker's clothes was consistent with her husband's DNA, not Arthur's.
Mary Neal

Stone Mountain, GA

#14 Sep 5, 2009
Before citizens can be executed, there should be irrefutable proof of guilt and accused persons should be given EVERY opportunity up to the last moment to prove their innocence. Even eyewitness testimony has OFTEN been wrong, including rape victims who were as close to their attacker as it is possible to be to anyone. It makes victims feel sorry when they realize they identified the wrong person, but it happens. In fact, so many people have been wrongly convicted and wrongly executed that plenty of people who support capital punishment in theory have now withdrawn their support, including judges and elected officials. Here are six good reasons to repeal the death penalty:

* It does not deter crime
* It is racist
* It targets the poor
* It kills the innocent
* It is expensive
* It is barbaric

The irreversible step of executing an innocent person cannot be corrected. Life in prison without parole is enough penalty for even the worst crimes. That way, if someone proves to be innocent years later, they can walk away like over 300 people have.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#15 Sep 5, 2009
Mary Neal wrote:
Before citizens can be executed, there should be irrefutable proof of guilt and accused persons should be given EVERY opportunity up to the last moment to prove their innocence. Even eyewitness testimony has OFTEN been wrong, including rape victims who were as close to their attacker as it is possible to be to anyone. It makes victims feel sorry when they realize they identified the wrong person, but it happens. In fact, so many people have been wrongly convicted and wrongly executed that plenty of people who support capital punishment in theory have now withdrawn their support, including judges and elected officials. Here are six good reasons to repeal the death penalty:
* It does not deter crime
* It is racist
* It targets the poor
* It kills the innocent
* It is expensive
* It is barbaric
The irreversible step of executing an innocent person cannot be corrected. Life in prison without parole is enough penalty for even the worst crimes. That way, if someone proves to be innocent years later, they can walk away like over 300 people have.
Bsrf!

Why don't you tell us all about those wonderful people who were innocent who were executed! Facts not opinions.

Why don't you tell us all about those murderers who were given another chance by not being sentenced to death and went on to kill someone else in prison - other inmates, corrections people, or escaped and killed again.
Sandi

Nashville, TN

#16 Sep 6, 2009
Nautilus1 wrote:
"He was a likely suspect. He admits he was having an affair with Mrs. Wicker, he had killed before, and he was on work release at the time of Wicker's death"
Thats good enough for me, execute
DAYUM! What man screwed you over?
Sandi

Nashville, TN

#17 Sep 6, 2009
Mary Neal wrote:
Before citizens can be executed, there should be irrefutable proof of guilt and accused persons should be given EVERY opportunity up to the last moment to prove their innocence. Even eyewitness testimony has OFTEN been wrong, including rape victims who were as close to their attacker as it is possible to be to anyone. It makes victims feel sorry when they realize they identified the wrong person, but it happens. In fact, so many people have been wrongly convicted and wrongly executed that plenty of people who support capital punishment in theory have now withdrawn their support, including judges and elected officials. Here are six good reasons to repeal the death penalty:
* It does not deter crime
* It is racist
* It targets the poor
* It kills the innocent
* It is expensive
* It is barbaric
The irreversible step of executing an innocent person cannot be corrected. Life in prison without parole is enough penalty for even the worst crimes. That way, if someone proves to be innocent years later, they can walk away like over 300 people have.
The Growing Problem Of Wrongful Conviction

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/independent_revi...

Written in 2003, but highly relevant to today.
Sandi

Nashville, TN

#18 Sep 6, 2009
Sandi

Nashville, TN

#19 Sep 6, 2009
Sandi

Nashville, TN

#20 Sep 6, 2009

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