Bay of Gibraltar is 'disaster waiting to happen'

Sep 6, 2011 Full story: Guardian Unlimited 14

Political view ... a territorial dispute over the waters off Gibraltar plays into the hands of polluters.

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Mian Duray

Gibraltar, Gibraltar

#1 Sep 22, 2011
something needs to be put into place to tackle this potential threat. Gibraltar cannot continue to suffer from pollution the way it is, and could be...
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tony uk

UK

#2 Sep 26, 2011
yes I agree with you measures have to be in place to combat this potential threat to our country but first of all it must be said that spain is the biggest pollution threat of all specially the oil refinery next to algeciras for years it has been the cause of many deceases in the campamento area specially in la linea where lots of people have had to leave their abodes and move to other parts of the country this as been a very long running problem for gibraltar because spain has allways denied that such probles exist
test

La Línea, Spain

#3 Oct 3, 2011
CEPSA oil refinery, E.ON power plant, Acerinox steel factory, raw sewage flowing into the sea, bunkering activities, hundreds of ships every day passing through, traffic jams and thousands of motorbikes. This is a truly toxic place to live in!
test

La Línea, Spain

#4 Oct 3, 2011
Oh and I forgot the air-polluting and very noisy electricity generators in Gibraltar, right next to densely populated areas.

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#5 Feb 18, 2012
lol
tony uk

London, UK

#6 Mar 11, 2012
test wrote:
Oh and I forgot the air-polluting and very noisy electricity generators in Gibraltar, right next to densely populated areas.
yes I agree with you the hundreds of bikes coming fron la linea san roque and algeciras is a very big problem and as the generators they are not nearly as bad and polluting as the bunkering that goes on in algeciras or the refinery
tony

Glasgow, UK

#8 Mar 18, 2013
test wrote:
CEPSA oil refinery, E.ON power plant, Acerinox steel factory, raw sewage flowing into the sea, bunkering activities, hundreds of ships every day passing through, traffic jams and thousands of motorbikes. This is a truly toxic place to live in!
I nearly forgot the raw sewage for example if you care to look at the end of the neutral camp there is a sewage pipe and that pipe belongs to la linea de la concepsion and for imaginary hundreds of ships bunkering thats all it is pure imagination so if you are goin to write something get your facts right first
basque_spaniards

Burgos, Spain

#9 Jun 23, 2013
there was no problen between Spain and Gibraltar before Piccardo arrives to The government. Piccardo change his policy against Spain very agressive. The Gibraltar police arrested or pressure All The fishermen that they see. So spanish order The civil guard to protect The fishermen.
Even we dont see uk as enemy, we see as an ally and friend. But Gibraltar goverment dont want to cooperate. The only country that we dont trust is marocco. Ones who have benefits in our bad relation aré illegal inmigrants.
Amerikan

Toronto, Canada

#10 Jun 23, 2013
So, if Gibraltar is British, let britain do something about that, right? Why blame anyone else...

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Basque_spaniards

Burgos, Spain

#11 Jun 28, 2013
I´m not saying that gibraltar is british. Gibraltar is british because its was a territory won by spoils of war after the Succesion war. Menorca Island was also but it was recovery by force after the war of American Revolution.
Gibraltar is british by an agreement of spanish king and British king on the Utrech treaty.
This treaty also says that we have to cooperate in Gibraltar waters and not block when the gibraltar minister wants.
And of course, the treaty also says, if someday the united kingdom don´t want the soberanity of Gibraltar it has to return to spanish soberanity inmediately.
tony

London, UK

#12 Jul 10, 2013
Basque_spaniards wrote:
I´m not saying that gibraltar is british. Gibraltar is british because its was a territory won by spoils of war after the Succesion war. Menorca Island was also but it was recovery by force after the war of American Revolution.
Gibraltar is british by an agreement of spanish king and British king on the Utrech treaty.
This treaty also says that we have to cooperate in Gibraltar waters and not block when the gibraltar minister wants.
And of course, the treaty also says, if someday the united kingdom don´t want the soberanity of Gibraltar it has to return to spanish soberanity inmediately.
first of all gibraltar is british secondly please get your history right in 1704 in the treaty of utrech there was no such thing as cooperation in british international waters because international waters did existed until 1952 however before 1713 passage to gibraltar was granted for commerce its seems to me that spain is always trying to change history to suit themselves and it was about time that the world saw the spanish politicians for what they really are liers and thives just look what they have done to the once great spanish nation
tony

London, UK

#13 Jul 10, 2013
ps in the treaty of utrech there was no agreement between the spanish king and the british king spain gave gibraltar to great britain for perpetuity
Basque-Spaniards

Bilbao, Spain

#14 Jul 14, 2013
The Utrech Treaty:
"The Catholic King, for himself and his heirs and successors, yield this Agreement in the Crown of Great Britain the full and entire propriety of the town and castle of Gibraltar, together with the port, fortifications and strength belong, giving the said property absolutely to be held and enjoyed with all manner of right for ever, without any exception or impediment.
But to avoid any abuse and fraud in the introduction of the goods. Catholic King wills, and takes it to be understood that the said property is transferred to Great Britain without any territorial jurisdiction without any open communication with the country round by land. And as communication by sea to the coast of Spain can not be open and safe at all times, and hence it may be that the soldiers of the garrison of Gibraltar and the residents of that city from being reduced to great distress, being the Catholic King's mind only prevent, as stated above, the fraudulent merchandise via ground. it is agreed that in these cases you can buy money, in the land of Spain, provisions and other things necessary for the use of the garrison, neighbors and ships anchored in the harbor.

But if any goods imported by Gibraltar, and to barter for provisions or under any other pretense, be awarded to the Treasury, and complaint filed this breach of this Agreement will be severely punished the guilty.

And His Britannic Majesty. at the request of the Catholic King consents and agrees not to allow any grounds that Jews or Moors, to reside or have their dwellings in the said town of Gibraltar, neither input nor host blackberries warships in the harbor of that city, thus communication can cut Spain to Ceuta, or Spanish coasts be infested by the excursions of the Moors. And as there are treaties of friendship. freedom and frequency of trade between England and parts of the coast of Africa. has always understood that you can not refuse entry to the port of Gibraltar from the Moors and their ships, they only come to trade.

Promises also Her Majesty the Queen of Great Britain that the inhabitants of the said City of Gibraltar will be granted free use of the Roman Catholic Religion.

If at any time the Crown of Great Britain, it seems appropriate to give, sell or dispose of, in any way the property of the said City of Gibraltar, it is agreed and agreed by this Agreement to be given to the Crown of Spain the first action before other to redeem it.
tony

London, UK

#15 Sep 25, 2013
basque_spaniards wrote:
there was no problen between Spain and Gibraltar before Piccardo arrives to The government. Piccardo change his policy against Spain very agressive. The Gibraltar police arrested or pressure All The fishermen that they see. So spanish order The civil guard to protect The fishermen.
Even we dont see uk as enemy, we see as an ally and friend. But Gibraltar goverment dont want to cooperate. The only country that we dont trust is marocco. Ones who have benefits in our bad relation aré illegal inmigrants.
you are wrong the problem has always been spain and not gibraltar or mr picardo police have arrested the fishermens because they have been breaking the law time and time again they have destroyed all the fishing every where they fish they show no respect for anyone they have been entering british gibraltar waters and not respecting international law the one that does want to cooperate with the uk or gibraltar is spain.spain wants the world to see how hartdone she feels but it is all lies the spanish goverment are pass masters at deceits.I will like to inform you and all who think the same as you do that british gibraltar will stay BRITISH

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