Four shot dead in Bangladesh bloggers...

Feb 24, 2013 Full story: Suria 12

Islamists demanding the execution of bloggers they accuse of blasphemy clashed with police in Bangladesh for a third straight day Sunday, and at least four protesters were killed when police opened fire.

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Love Bangladesh

Cairo, Egypt

#1 Feb 24, 2013
I am a proud Bangladeshi. You can be an atheist or whatever else you want to be. BUT DON'T insult my belief or religion. Your freedom of opinion doesn't mean you attack everything that you disagree with.

Since: Feb 13

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#2 Feb 24, 2013
Love Bangladesh wrote:
I am a proud Bangladeshi. You can be an atheist or whatever else you want to be. BUT DON'T insult my belief or religion. Your freedom of opinion doesn't mean you attack everything that you disagree with.
same here.. respect all, and expect them to respect you.

i dont support the killing, but the blogger was asking for it, he was in bangladesh, giving out his identity onlin (that takes some courage, i must admit). i would have respected his opinion, and respectfully told him to go shove his opinions up his ass.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#3 Feb 24, 2013
purecheese wrote:
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same here.. respect all, and expect them to respect you.
i dont support the killing, but the blogger was asking for it, he was in bangladesh, giving out his identity onlin (that takes some courage, i must admit). i would have respected his opinion, and respectfully told him to go shove his opinions up his ass.
You have an open mind that you can judge others without turning to violent measures to relize your feelings so I propose that I ask of your thoughts on why Islam is at war with itself seeing it is described as being of peace and tranquility ??

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#4 Feb 24, 2013
Love Bangladesh wrote:
I am a proud Bangladeshi. You can be an atheist or whatever else you want to be. BUT DON'T insult my belief or religion. Your freedom of opinion doesn't mean you attack everything that you disagree with.
That is exactly what is happening in Indonesia between the religions,such actions led by Muslims
Motherchode

London, UK

#5 Feb 24, 2013
All Awami leaguers should be hang after justice done.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#6 Feb 24, 2013
Why are there so many Islamic parties ?
Are there divisions within Islam that tells different views within the one country ?

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#7 Feb 24, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
Why are there so many Islamic parties ?
Are there divisions within Islam that tells different views within the one country ?
pride and hate has destroyed islamic law. we used to be once a loved people who brought peace. we introduced the world to science (algorithm, algebra are both from islamic times, so is trigonometry, and checkout ibn sina), if you look at our track record we are peaceful, we also had a very modern perspective on slavery. islam was a religion of peace and tolerance. Jihand used to mean self-defense.
the problem is, over time, muslims in bangladesh had a few extremists who i think commited war crimes because they wanted to be on the good-side of pakistan at the time, it was just pressure, but they should still be brought to justice for their crimes, regardless of why they did it.
the reason that extremists exist is because they feel that islam is threatend, and by secularism we mean to eradicate islam, they dont understand that secularism means freedom of religion. i think its just a lack of education coming back to haunt us.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#8 Feb 24, 2013
Motherchode wrote:
All Awami leaguers should be hang after justice done.
apparently you want to kill all people who oppose your views, if thats not genocide i dont know what is. you promote violence, and that is a failure on your leader's part, a failure to not be able to teach you the means of peace.

i dont want jammat-e-islami to being banned, but if someone commits war crimes they must pay the price, otherwise justice is non-existent. if someone killed your father and raped your mother, and you see that someone walking free, i doubt you will be happy and i can't deny justice to you if i had the power.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#9 Feb 24, 2013
purecheese wrote:
<quoted text>
pride and hate has destroyed islamic law. we used to be once a loved people who brought peace. we introduced the world to science (algorithm, algebra are both from islamic times, so is trigonometry, and checkout ibn sina), if you look at our track record we are peaceful, we also had a very modern perspective on slavery. islam was a religion of peace and tolerance. Jihand used to mean self-defense.
the problem is, over time, muslims in bangladesh had a few extremists who i think commited war crimes because they wanted to be on the good-side of pakistan at the time, it was just pressure, but they should still be brought to justice for their crimes, regardless of why they did it.
the reason that extremists exist is because they feel that islam is threatend, and by secularism we mean to eradicate islam, they dont understand that secularism means freedom of religion. i think its just a lack of education coming back to haunt us.
How then does Islam clean itself that it may return to the past time that you explained ?
Faith

New Baltimore, MI

#10 Feb 24, 2013
Love Bangladesh wrote:
I am a proud Bangladeshi. You can be an atheist or whatever else you want to be. BUT DON'T insult my belief or religion. Your freedom of opinion doesn't mean you attack everything that you disagree with.
Your "religion" is a pack of hateful lies, your "country" is a seething rat-hole.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#11 Feb 24, 2013
Neville Thompson wrote:
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How then does Islam clean itself that it may return to the past time that you explained ?
in islam a leader has way too much responsibility, so much that a lot of real muslims will never rule due to the fear of making a simple mistake that can lead to even a single person suffering. This understanding no longer exists, and bringing back this mentality is going to be near impossible. this mentality is gone, and probably will never come back, since honor and nobility no longer exists.

we can't clean Islam, it is up to the individual to practice their faith, we can't force people to do that. the past is past we cant go back to it. but what we can do is bring back peace and prosperity.

The current crisis in Bangladesh is a byproduct of the healing process our country is going through. it isn't the problem that needs to be solved, it is just the effect of our past. the current issue is happening because with generations, in the past 20~30 years people in Bangladesh have learned science and understood why blind faith is dangerous. however Muslim extremists still exist and are legally recognized in politics, so people do not want these extremists to be recognized legally, and thus it is getting rid of the extremists, like a human body rejects germs that shouldn't be in the body. so hopefully in our country we will have peace within a few years. The islamic society will than exist as individuals coming together to form them, not the government forcing everybody to be muslims. that is how islamic societies have always been ruled, and that is how they will be ruled. the ruler must ensure that muslims/hindus/christians are seen equally in the eye of the law. thats how it has always been, and thats what it has to become for peace to ensue.

Now if you are talking about how to generally get rid of extremists, than i must tell you that instead of bombing them and spending money in the military why not pay for a lot of clinics and education, and homeless shelters, i am pretty sure they will love you when they see that you are not trying to kill them. the extremists aren't a country or a location that you can conquer, it is normal people who feel that the world is screwing them over and that the world is a cold place where nobody cares about them, and they are all alone. cruelty breeds cruelty.

“Free Speech in a Free World ”

Since: May 10

Australia

#12 Feb 25, 2013
purecheese wrote:
<quoted text>
in islam a leader has way too much responsibility, so much that a lot of real muslims will never rule due to the fear of making a simple mistake that can lead to even a single person suffering. This understanding no longer exists, and bringing back this mentality is going to be near impossible. this mentality is gone, and probably will never come back, since honor and nobility no longer exists.
we can't clean Islam, it is up to the individual to practice their faith, we can't force people to do that. the past is past we cant go back to it. but what we can do is bring back peace and prosperity.
The current crisis in Bangladesh is a byproduct of the healing process our country is going through. it isn't the problem that needs to be solved, it is just the effect of our past. the current issue is happening because with generations, in the past 20~30 years people in Bangladesh have learned science and understood why blind faith is dangerous. however Muslim extremists still exist and are legally recognized in politics, so people do not want these extremists to be recognized legally, and thus it is getting rid of the extremists, like a human body rejects germs that shouldn't be in the body. so hopefully in our country we will have peace within a few years. The islamic society will than exist as individuals coming together to form them, not the government forcing everybody to be muslims. that is how islamic societies have always been ruled, and that is how they will be ruled. the ruler must ensure that muslims/hindus/christians are seen equally in the eye of the law. thats how it has always been, and thats what it has to become for peace to ensue.
Now if you are talking about how to generally get rid of extremists, than i must tell you that instead of bombing them and spending money in the military why not pay for a lot of clinics and education, and homeless shelters, i am pretty sure they will love you when they see that you are not trying to kill them. the extremists aren't a country or a location that you can conquer, it is normal people who feel that the world is screwing them over and that the world is a cold place where nobody cares about them, and they are all alone. cruelty breeds cruelty.
I thank you for your words of wisdom, I can only hope that the world of Islam reads them as well that they realize that what you write.
Australia has been investing heavily in Indonesia to assist in education for the young that may enlighten their world that one day they may speak as you do, peacefully.

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