Casino opponents mobilizing to support buffer

Sep 18, 2011 Full story: Evening Sun 82

Opponents to a Gettysburg-area casino are mobilizing after news spread that a local businessman might want to pursue new gaming opportunities in Adams County.

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Pink Eye

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#1 Sep 21, 2011
Hey where's the Gettysburg bunch? What? All the renters, Wendy aka Gburgbaseballmom, how about Nile, you happy little renter, don't you have anything to say? What's wrong rent slip got your tongue? Wendy in rehab again?
PinkyisfullofBS

Carlisle, PA

#2 Sep 21, 2011
Pink Eye wrote:
Hey where's the Gettysburg bunch? What? All the renters, Wendy aka Gburgbaseballmom, how about Nile, you happy little renter, don't you have anything to say? What's wrong rent slip got your tongue? Wendy in rehab again?
Yawwwwwwn. I see you are not over your obsession with the awesome and wonderful GBM. Just couldnt resist trying to stir the pot could you. Says more about you than ANYONE else! GBM dealt with her demons years ago, you should try it.
Pink Eye

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#3 Sep 21, 2011
PinkyisfullofBS wrote:
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Yawwwwwwn. I see you are not over your obsession with the awesome and wonderful GBM. Just couldnt resist trying to stir the pot could you. Says more about you than ANYONE else! GBM dealt with her demons years ago, you should try it.
And we have the ole lady Suzanne coming to us live from the cheering section for GBM. Where is short, pudgy and and number one cashier for The Giant? Paraprofessional by day cashier by night!! Still hoping for the casino? You do realize that its a lost cause. If I have to read one more time about the demons in Wendy's life I will PUKE. Her son's girlfriend didn't have another "accident" that's cured in nine months, did he? I really don't want to have to contribute more than I already have via my taxes for his little mishaps!!
NowThatsEntertai nment

Chambersburg, PA

#4 Sep 21, 2011
The buffer legislation has zero support from locals within the proposed area and an almost zero support from legislators except the sponsors of the bill. The No Casino crowd has once again looked to outsiders to attempt to influence legislators to support a bill that is clearly unconstitutional. The buffer bill is DOA.
Pink Eye

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#5 Sep 22, 2011
NowThatsEntertainment wrote:
The buffer legislation has zero support from locals within the proposed area and an almost zero support from legislators except the sponsors of the bill. The No Casino crowd has once again looked to outsiders to attempt to influence legislators to support a bill that is clearly unconstitutional. The buffer bill is DOA.
You under estimate the no casino crowd.
NowThatsEntertai nment

Chambersburg, PA

#6 Sep 22, 2011
Pink Eye wrote:
<quoted text>You under estimate the no casino crowd.


Don't think so. I think the no casino crowd underestimates their ability to influence anyone.
NowThatsEntertai nment

Chambersburg, PA

#7 Sep 22, 2011
NowThatsEntertainment wrote:
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Don't think so. I think the no casino crowd underestimates their ability to influence anyone.
Good grief! Did I post that? What I meant to say was the no casino crowd OVERESTIMATES their ability to influence anyone. Maybe I should wait until after I have that second cup of coffee before I post. LOL.

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#8 Sep 22, 2011
Scotch & water, one armed bandit, ace and face card can't beat it!

“ROCK ON ROCKERS!!”

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Rockin' USA ;)

#9 Sep 22, 2011
What's the odds? Think the house will finally win this hand? Is it really too late to just go for it one last time?
Pink Eye

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#10 Sep 23, 2011
NowThatsEntertainment wrote:
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Good grief! Did I post that? What I meant to say was the no casino crowd OVERESTIMATES their ability to influence anyone. Maybe I should wait until after I have that second cup of coffee before I post. LOL.
LOL at the coffee comment, I know the feeling. Well maybe the NO casino crowd isn't overestimating their abilites. So far I haven't seen a casino being built. Even if you think their involvment wasn't a direct result of it being awarded somewhere else, it could be a case of the casino looking for the place of least resistance.
NowThatsEntertai nment

Chambersburg, PA

#11 Sep 23, 2011
Pink Eye wrote:
<quoted text>LOL at the coffee comment, I know the feeling. Well maybe the NO casino crowd isn't overestimating their abilites. So far I haven't seen a casino being built. Even if you think their involvment wasn't a direct result of it being awarded somewhere else, it could be a case of the casino looking for the place of least resistance.
I rather doubt that. Why would the PA Gaming Commission shoot them self in the economic foot so to speak just to make opponents happy? I happen to think that the Gettysburg location made more economic sense than Nemacolin, and a recent study appears to support that.

“ROCK ON ROCKERS!!”

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#12 Sep 23, 2011
Ya don't hear about any gambling losses lately from the Sands in Bethlehem or from the Poconos casinos. So business must be doing well. i don't favor casinos as I have stated before, because it does bring low lifers in. But it appears every town in America is facing that now, drugs, prostitution and robberies. Get rich quick is their motto easy money. That is also the same line of thinking for gambler's. But as least the casino would bring jobs to the area. As I stated before, without a business drawing in the public, creating jobs and making a profit; am afraid Gettysburg will become a ghost town. You can only stare and enjoy the Battlefield for so long, today's young adults want adventure. Not to see where men fought and died, they are just beginning to enjoy their life. Exploring every twist and turn, new paths to discover and their new drinking freedoms. Raising taxes for the residents and job loss is not going to keep folks staying. If this one man who is determined to have a casino for the benefit of all, why fight it? I'm still looking forward to my dinner date with Fire Marshall Bill, when it's built, hey Bill ya can bring the wife also. ROCK ON!
Pink Eye

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#13 Sep 23, 2011
NowThatsEntertainment wrote:
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I rather doubt that. Why would the PA Gaming Commission shoot them self in the economic foot so to speak just to make opponents happy? I happen to think that the Gettysburg location made more economic sense than Nemacolin, and a recent study appears to support that.
Maybe they're considering damage control and looking out for themselves. The casino might have been popular with (some)locals but maybe not with the rest of the state/country. I know that some local residences felt others' should keep their noses out of local business but, and its always the but, its Gettysburg. So lets say they did put it in Gettysburg, and although most of the local community embraced it, some adamantly opposed the idea and took it to the national level ( which they did). Now every citizen feels they are entitled to an opinion. The casino is looking out for their bottom line, and how they are perceived as a whole. If the majority of people decided that Gettysburg is the wrong place for a casino, they will avoid it. It would also cast a cloud over other of their casinos as well, and people would avoid those too. These people want to continue making money so they'll try to ruffle as few feathers as possible. So this time they take a bit of a hit and build it somewhere with less economic growth, but with far less emotionally charged opposition. They're thinking beyond the end of their noses.
Really

Greensboro, NC

#14 Sep 23, 2011
NowThatsEntertainment wrote:
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I rather doubt that. Why would the PA Gaming Commission shoot them self in the economic foot so to speak just to make opponents happy? I happen to think that the Gettysburg location made more economic sense than Nemacolin, and a recent study appears to support that.
Take a better look at that recent study again. Gettysburg was not listed anywhere on the study. Chambersburg and York county were. Don't grasp at straws to prove a point.
NowThatsEntertai nment

Chambersburg, PA

#15 Sep 23, 2011
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Take a better look at that recent study again. Gettysburg was not listed anywhere on the study. Chambersburg and York county were. Don't grasp at straws to prove a point.
Who's grasping at straws? The study stated that South Central PA is thought to be one of the better locations for any future casinos. As far as I know Gettysburg is still located within South Central PA. And to my knowledge no one in Chambersburg or York County has applied for a casino license, unlike the proposed Mason Dixon site. In my opinion I don't think a study would cite a location that had an actual application submitted because it would lessen the validity of their conclusions and viewed as favoritism for that site. Common sense.
NowThatsEntertai nment

Chambersburg, PA

#16 Sep 23, 2011
Pink Eye wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe they're considering damage control and looking out for themselves. The casino might have been popular with (some)locals but maybe not with the rest of the state/country. I know that some local residences felt others' should keep their noses out of local business but, and its always the but, its Gettysburg. So lets say they did put it in Gettysburg, and although most of the local community embraced it, some adamantly opposed the idea and took it to the national level ( which they did). Now every citizen feels they are entitled to an opinion. The casino is looking out for their bottom line, and how they are perceived as a whole. If the majority of people decided that Gettysburg is the wrong place for a casino, they will avoid it. It would also cast a cloud over other of their casinos as well, and people would avoid those too. These people want to continue making money so they'll try to ruffle as few feathers as possible. So this time they take a bit of a hit and build it somewhere with less economic growth, but with far less emotionally charged opposition. They're thinking beyond the end of their noses.
That's a nice rationalization if you're part of the no casino crowd. The part of Gettysburg that belongs to "everyone" is located within the confines of the GNMP. Anything outside those boundaries belongs to the individual property owners and unless you are willing to help pay my taxes it does not "belong" to you. Casino included. As long as you are acting within the defined laws of the land what I, my neighbor, or Mason Dixon Casino does on their property is not "everyone's" concern no matter whether they are 10 feet or 10 miles outside the boundary of the GNMP. And would you care to cite that study that concludes that the majority of "everyone" opposes a casino near Gettysburg? In my experience I have not noticed that feeling, either with the public or with visitors to the area, both of which I have regular contact.
Really

Greensboro, NC

#17 Sep 23, 2011
NowThatsEntertainment wrote:
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Who's grasping at straws? The study stated that South Central PA is thought to be one of the better locations for any future casinos. As far as I know Gettysburg is still located within South Central PA. And to my knowledge no one in Chambersburg or York County has applied for a casino license, unlike the proposed Mason Dixon site. In my opinion I don't think a study would cite a location that had an actual application submitted because it would lessen the validity of their conclusions and viewed as favoritism for that site. Common sense.
It is grasping at straws. The report stated the best sites for a casino. The study gave a listing by towns and Gettysburg was not even mentioned. Reddding was also listed and that was a potential site untill the people who were for that site went with RV world. Willliamsport was listed ,but that place has not looked for a casino. The report all counties/areas in the state iregardless if they applied for a casino or not and Gettysburg was no where on the list. They sited and it was reported in numerous print and t.v. reports that Chamersburg and Southern York were highly favored spots. No Gettysburg mentioned at all. So in short, yes, you are grasping at straws when you site the report small sentance when it says south-central would be the best spot for a casino. Last I checked South-Central PA was a lot bigger the Gettysburg.
Really

Greensboro, NC

#18 Sep 23, 2011
NowThatsEntertainment wrote:
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Who's grasping at straws? The study stated that South Central PA is thought to be one of the better locations for any future casinos. As far as I know Gettysburg is still located within South Central PA. And to my knowledge no one in Chambersburg or York County has applied for a casino license, unlike the proposed Mason Dixon site. In my opinion I don't think a study would cite a location that had an actual application submitted because it would lessen the validity of their conclusions and viewed as favoritism for that site. Common sense.
Its also common sense that if you are going to use a study as a bases for your argument you use the whole thing, not only the portion you like.

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#19 Sep 23, 2011
Hey Pink Eye. Not that there is anything wrong with renting but where did you come up with me being a renter? Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument. Please leave me out of your senseless rants. Also, don't let worthless sidelines distract from the true argument.
NowThatsEntertai nment

Chambersburg, PA

#20 Sep 23, 2011
Really wrote:
<quoted text>It is grasping at straws. The report stated the best sites for a casino. The study gave a listing by towns and Gettysburg was not even mentioned. Reddding was also listed and that was a potential site untill the people who were for that site went with RV world. Willliamsport was listed ,but that place has not looked for a casino. The report all counties/areas in the state iregardless if they applied for a casino or not and Gettysburg was no where on the list. They sited and it was reported in numerous print and t.v. reports that Chamersburg and Southern York were highly favored spots. No Gettysburg mentioned at all. So in short, yes, you are grasping at straws when you site the report small sentance when it says south-central would be the best spot for a casino. Last I checked South-Central PA was a lot bigger the Gettysburg.
And I've told you why I believe Gettysburg was not mentioned by name and unless you can prove to me that Gettysburg is not within the geographical boundaries of South Central PA then Gettysburg could be considered among all the mentioned and unmentioned towns/cities as a favorable site.

Study suggests South Central Pennsylvania still makes economic sense as a casino home
www.pennlive.com

Small sentence? South Central PA is the headline.

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