Balloon Track future before voters ag...

Balloon Track future before voters again inEureka

There are 38 comments on the Eureka Times Standard story from Oct 25, 2010, titled Balloon Track future before voters again inEureka. In it, Eureka Times Standard reports that:

Tensions ran high roughly a decade ago when the zoning of the Balloon Track property in Eureka first went to voters, but the same stage does not seem to be set for the upcoming November election.

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Anonymous

Linden, CA

#1 Oct 25, 2010
Allison, Well done. You took an extremely contentious issue and presented an unbiased look at the facts. That's what reporters are supposed to do. No doubt a few will take issue with a couple minor points but overall you did a great job. Hopefully some of your coworkers will take notice and raise the level of their own work. There are understandable and legitamate reasons that Thad and others receive so many negative comments from readers. You have set a good example for them let's hope they follow it. Thank you.
Hippycrits

United States

#2 Oct 25, 2010
10 years later and nothing has changed. Conservatives still want to create jobs. Liberals are still against creating jobs in the private sector but belive "creating" government jobs by defecit spending is a great idea.
angry

Eureka, CA

#3 Oct 25, 2010
I'm voting YES to N and YES to Home Depot!
Steven

San Francisco, CA

#4 Oct 25, 2010
Who else was in favor of Walmart in '99?

Cherie Arkley, who handed the city a 30,000 check to purchase this ballot measure

And, Chris Crawford, who is managing the Yes on N campaign

They are hoping to finally get that Walmart they really wanted back in 99'

What visionaries!
Fun time

Eureka, CA

#5 Oct 25, 2010
There is one problem if it passes and that is the environmentalist will probably keep it in the courts for whatever length thay can.
Hopefully someone will be able to "pay off" a few judges to see the right way to go.
Ray

San Francisco, CA

#6 Oct 25, 2010
Fun time wrote:
There is one problem if it passes and that is the environmentalist will probably keep it in the courts for whatever length thay can.
Hopefully someone will be able to "pay off" a few judges to see the right way to go.
That's true! I'm voting yes just to keep the anti-growthers busy in court.
old timer

Berkeley, CA

#7 Oct 25, 2010
The one question I keep asking the pro & con people is why Home Depot does not actually say they are coming if if this passes. Mr. Gans says so but Home Depot does not.
There are two big commercial/residential projects proposed in around Eureka, the other is the Cutten/Ridgewood project. Both could leave a lot of empty buildings if abandoned mid-stream. Both these projects are more inline with a Santa Rosa sized community.

In our current economy both seem over-sized for our area.
Open your eyes

Eureka, CA

#8 Oct 25, 2010
Yes on N!! we need more jobs and we need to take pride in our city and clean it up!! No wonder everyone wants to move & shop out of the area Eureka looks like crap!
hawo

Arcata, CA

#9 Oct 25, 2010
Anonymous wrote:
Allison, Well done. You took an extremely contentious issue and presented an unbiased look at the facts. That's what reporters are supposed to do. No doubt a few will take issue with a couple minor points but overall you did a great job. Hopefully some of your coworkers will take notice and raise the level of their own work. There are understandable and legitamate reasons that Thad and others receive so many negative comments from readers. You have set a good example for them let's hope they follow it. Thank you.
Agreed. I often take issue with the lack of effort in T-S reporting (and am a proudly pedantic a-hole on grammar and spelling). Allison is to be commended for doing actual journalism, researching and presenting both sides of the issue.
Duke nuke-em

Palo Alto, CA

#10 Oct 25, 2010
Thanks Allison for not drinking the Kool-Aid. Allison did write a good article that yes, the rest of her coworkers should take note of. Keep Allison on the Forster-Gill story too. Lots or green flavored Kool-Aid being mixed and distributed by Lovelace et. al. on that piece of dung project. Allison can shed some long overdue unbiased light into the County Supervisorís chambers.
Stupid

Arcata, CA

#11 Oct 25, 2010
Yes to N. Yes to Wal-Mart!
H Depot is not investing

Eureka, CA

#12 Oct 25, 2010
Home depot depends on a robust housing market and middle-class spending.

It is a dying beast as the economy continues to struggle and housing continues it's inevitable decline to historically realistic values.

We will probably get something, but it will be no home depot.

Since: Oct 10

Eureka,Ca.

#13 Oct 25, 2010
Stupid wrote:
Yes to N. Yes to Wal-Mart!
YES TO "N" NO TO WALLMART

Since: Oct 10

Eureka,Ca.

#14 Oct 25, 2010
Anonymous wrote:
Allison, Well done. You took an extremely contentious issue and presented an unbiased look at the facts. That's what reporters are supposed to do. No doubt a few will take issue with a couple minor points but overall you did a great job. Hopefully some of your coworkers will take notice and raise the level of their own work. There are understandable and legitamate reasons that Thad and others receive so many negative comments from readers. You have set a good example for them let's hope they follow it. Thank you.
Kudos to this poster along with #9 and #10 for recognizing some very good writing. I thought the very same thing when I read the article and wish all voters would read the article for what it is and learn something not just see one side or the other. I voted against WALLMART the first time because WALLMART is a very predatory retailer just looking to knock out any other business in the area and we already have enough stores selling the exact same thing as them. HD on the other hand brings products not found here are are a much more friendly competitor and I will vote to change the zoning for this property and hope to see something done soon even if HD decides not to come.
Steven

San Francisco, CA

#15 Oct 25, 2010
REAL DIRT DEVIL wrote:
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WALLMART is a very predatory retailer just looking to knock out any other business in the area and we already have enough stores selling the exact same thing as them.
Home Depot operates the same way buddy. So does Lowes, Best Buy, etc. These mega retailers need to capture 70% of the market to survive.

Local businesses can't compete with the buying power of these corporations. Say goodbye to our local retailers, except those that can find smaller niche markets!
4oceans

San Francisco, CA

#16 Oct 25, 2010
What a waste of time and money, especially on the public taxpayer side. Citizen initiatives can't trump the Coastal Act. You could get folks to vote for casinos or toxic waste dumps, it doesn't matter and won't be approved by the Coastal Commission. Remember when the City of Malibu voted to nix their LCP? Of course not. Remember when Clint Eastwood got everyone in Monterey to vote to allow more golf at Pebble Beach? Nothing more than a historical footnote. Arkley Gans should feed homeless with that money, it would be better spent.
One Has To Wonder

AOL

#17 Oct 25, 2010
I for one am sick and tired of a few people telling
me what is best for me. I wish some one would tell
me where there is any shopping in Eureka. Please
don't tell me the mall or Old Town. Old town is
nothing but expensive shops that the average person
can not shop in. I personally do not like Walmart
but wouldn't it be great to have one. Home Depot
would, perhaps, force the other stores to be a little more competitive instead of keeping the prices so high. Most of all I would like to have the choice of shopping where I want. I can not quite understand what everyone is so afraid of when it comes to bringing any new business to Eureka. Their fear of any growth brinks on insanity. Oh, I guess maybe it isn't their fear
of growth, but their own "GREED"
Dirt

San Francisco, CA

#18 Oct 25, 2010
I only shop at stores that sponsor NASCAR teams

Local business is bad for my America
Couch and Bud

Santa Cruz, CA

#19 Oct 25, 2010
angry wrote:
I'm voting YES to N and YES to Home Depot!
You WILL be angry when you buy a cheap-a**s sheet of plywood from them for $18 Bucks...
anon

Denver, CO

#20 Oct 25, 2010
One Has To Wonder wrote:
I for one am sick and tired of a few people telling
me what is best for me. I wish some one would tell
me where there is any shopping in Eureka. Please
don't tell me the mall or Old Town. Old town is
nothing but expensive shops that the average person
can not shop in. I personally do not like Walmart
but wouldn't it be great to have one. Home Depot
would, perhaps, force the other stores to be a little more competitive instead of keeping the prices so high. Most of all I would like to have the choice of shopping where I want. I can not quite understand what everyone is so afraid of when it comes to bringing any new business to Eureka. Their fear of any growth brinks on insanity. Oh, I guess maybe it isn't their fear
of growth, but their own "GREED"
When Walmart comes to town, small businesses go down. This paradigm has been repeated hundreds of times across the country. And for what? If you want your low-priced crap, buy it at Kmart, either in Oklahoma-By-The-Sea or Eureka, or go to Target...we don't need a Walmart that is going to sell the same crap for a few cents less. Freedom of choice to buy the same crappy material sold by another out-of-town retailer. The big retailers, Home Depot included, have the ability to undercut smaller businesses, plain and simple. If a Home Depot is built in Eureka, I won't shop there. I'd rather pay a little more for nails or paint or whatever, because you get prompt & excellent service at the local hardware stores in Eureka, Arcata, and McKinleyville. I'm for development of that property, but think that all options haven't been explored. Something needs to be tried that is more imaginitive than the same old big box store idea.

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