Fearing Unions, Wal-Mart Warns of Dem...

Fearing Unions, Wal-Mart Warns of Democratic Win

There are 1049 comments on the online.wsj.com story from Aug 1, 2008, titled Fearing Unions, Wal-Mart Warns of Democratic Win. In it, online.wsj.com reports that:

Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is mobilizing its store managers and department supervisors around the country to warn that if Democrats win power in November, they'll likely change federal law to make it easier for workers to unionize companies -- including Wal-Mart.

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beefman

Dewitt, MI

#667 Aug 4, 2008
The laughing liberal wrote:
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They are certainly part of the problem from the stand point of getting in bed with the Unions and agreeing to just pass all of the additional Union costs/demands down to the consumer.
Any ideas about spreading the wealth for those that don't give an hoot and have no real skills is just another expose' on communism & socialism where there's no incentive to do better and be the best.
Unions did many good things a century ago but are generally part of the rising costs outweighing any benefits now.
They also protect lots of lazy turds, crooks, nut cases and scoundrels that would be fired elsewhere.
There are some good Unions but I see no benefit to the consumer whatsoever in unionizing Wal-Mart.
so what union is responsible for the 3 hundred % increase in gas prices in the last two years.
Rusty Shackleford

United States

#668 Aug 4, 2008
Michael Allred wrote:
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Because I like to eat and have a place to sleep out of the weather on a regular basis.
This is a rather patheic argument used by those who are either so befuddled that they have no grasp of reality or by those who have never actually HAD to work a single day in their lives.
I can only assume, from your nom de plume, that a subtle mixture of both may be at work in your case...
I'm at work right now. In a job where I negotiated a decent rate of pay, all on my own.

Of course, I went to school, paid attention, got out with a couple of degrees, worked entry level jobs, worked my way up, etc.

Something you probably have no concept of.

Keep whining though. It will get you far in life.
Rusty Shackleford

United States

#669 Aug 4, 2008
Allie wrote:
Are republicans really this stupid? Nothing will be better for our country than having Obama as our president.
Only if you're too lazy to work.
beefman

Dewitt, MI

#670 Aug 4, 2008
jference wrote:
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27 and 6 kids? Have you ever heard of birth control!
have you ever heard of the idea that its still a free country and its not your business to tell her or anybody how many children to have.
Rusty Shackleford

United States

#671 Aug 4, 2008
Michael Allred wrote:
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1: Three and a half years.
2: From what the raise actually are.
3: As I have already stated, yes I do work there.
At this point I can only assume that as you seem not to be able to grasp the elementary concept that I work there and have an intimate knowlege of WalMart's practices, that you have pretty much gleaned all of your "information" as a customer who has frequent chats with the door greeter and takes this as being the same thing as actually working there.
Based on your profile and picture, I would say working at WalMart is all you can muster.
Rusty Shackleford

United States

#672 Aug 4, 2008
Alan Cozzi wrote:
<quoted text> I'm sitting in a corporation selling rather exclusive software. I have degrees and skills to spare. Unlike you F@#$tards on the right, I care about my fellow American. I know greed when I hear it. This years "skills" are next years useless skill sets. Welcome to the new technological frontier. Devil takes the hindmost? Not on my team @SShole,and not in my country. I for one have the strength to lean down and help my fellow human once in a while. "Get some skills" F@#$ you, you assumptive pric!. Even that retard Duh-bya knew how bloodthirsty the right sounds, remember thier attempt to friendly up the right? ya, the ultimate oxymoron: "compassionate conservativism" what a joke
You sound even less employable with each post.

You're a sales guy? Nice.

I could care less about any "fellow American" that cannot care about themselves. Handouts are not compassion, as much as the vote buying left would like you to believe.

“STOP HUSSEIN!!!!”

Since: Apr 08

Kenya

#673 Aug 4, 2008
CR8VDO wrote:
If I were wal-mart, I would close down any store that became unionized. Unions are nothing but money sucking leeches.

Why the hell do they need to be unionized for?

To put stuff on shelves and point in a certain direction when you ask them "excuse me where are your plastic bins?".

It takes more brains to operate the "Whoper Flopper" or the "Fryerator" or even to remember the specific meats and vegetables that go on your subway sub.
Rusty Shackleford

United States

#674 Aug 4, 2008
a content American wrote:
<quoted text>Well guess what I have been with the company for 10 yrs. I have worked in 7 different stores. I disagree with what you have said. I don't like my job everyday but this company has done wonderful things for me and many others I know. I have more intimate knowledge than you will ever gain. Listen I haven't any experiances like you have described in any of the stores I have been in. Furthermore I worked for Target and found it to be a cold place, they do not promise any amount of hours and do not even guarantee full time to anyone. I received no benefits and 1 raise that was less than any I ever received at Walmart.
The difference is, michael has an inflated sense of self-worth.
Bugers

San Mateo, CA

#675 Aug 4, 2008
1. You never stop anyone from voting in a socalled 'free democracy'.
2. Walmart employees should have known, some of these persons have AA in Business to Law sitting in retail stores. Why? the law company is a 3 room office. Even the loan company is a 2 room office with 4 temporaries.
Ask yourself, do you want to work, raise a family, put down $1Million for a house, Your stressed out, your lover group is hanging out.
Rusty Shackleford

United States

#676 Aug 4, 2008
Oil wrote:
Boo Who Walmart is crying. Perhaps they will have to become a fair employer. We will begin in the US to Unionize Walmart and spread it to China and Walmart will sink. Hooray! Hooray! Walmart has skinned its employees of deceit insurance, deceit wages, they are a company of prejudices swines. The wages they pay in others Countries does not provide a lively hood. Walmart has stolen the small store business and produces cheap dissatisfactory merchandise. I stopped shopping at this chop shop years ago.
And yet, people still work there.... hmmmm....

“Gray Wolf Club”

Since: Dec 07

Hog Thief Valley, Arkansas

#677 Aug 4, 2008
toto wrote:
in my 50 years as a wage earner union and non the change in the worker employer relationship which hurt the workers ability to get a better deal from employers id the advent of the temorary hiring hall. these temp workers do not work for the company so can not unionize. the company does not have to give reason to end a temp worker's contract and do so quite often.
Yes I can remember when temp hiring first made it's entry big time. The propaganda was "it's just for retiree's, or wifes who need a few hours work a week." Now almost every factory has them. If they are good enough suckbutts, they are made full time but w/o many of the benefits the full time workers have, if they were not that gung ho they might get 24 hours a week. It's just another scam of big labor to screw their employee's.
Rusty Shackleford

United States

#678 Aug 4, 2008
beefman wrote:
<quoted text>have you ever heard of the idea that its still a free country and its not your business to tell her or anybody how many children to have.
It's a deal then.

I won't tell people how many children to have, and they won't whine that they need my money to support them.

Also, as part of the deal, people who own companies can choose how much to pay their employees, not the collective?

Deal?
Rusty Shackleford

United States

#679 Aug 4, 2008
len117 wrote:
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Yes I can remember when temp hiring first made it's entry big time. The propaganda was "it's just for retiree's, or wifes who need a few hours work a week." Now almost every factory has them. If they are good enough suckbutts, they are made full time but w/o many of the benefits the full time workers have, if they were not that gung ho they might get 24 hours a week. It's just another scam of big labor to screw their employee's.
So Len, if a temp isn't doing a decent job, does someone owe them more hours?
a content American

Akron, OH

#680 Aug 4, 2008
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
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Based on your profile and picture, I would say working at WalMart is all you can muster.
Hey Rusty I have agreed with most of what you say, however, I could have chosen a lot of different careers. I chose Walmart because I liked the way I was treated and I make a better wage than most of my friends. For those of us that do work hard and use our brains at work I take offense to the MUSTER statement.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#681 Aug 4, 2008
with the incredible profits companies like walmart make - it is unforgivable they are so unwilling to pay their staff better - other retailers inlike businesses even pay better- and not wanting to give benefits -geez - what those massive profits arent; good enough for them eh? ah gee I feel soooooo bad for walmart - NOT! Its money hunry comapnies like this that have destroyed the stabiity of our capitalist system - take as much as you can and give as little back as possible. and then they get all freaked out when the little guy complains - like hiring them for crap wages is a good thing - no one wants more than they are worth but all things have gone up- even the little guy needs to make more - our expenses have gone up but our incomes have barely moved - so what is wrong with this picture? I will tell you- the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer and the middle isdisappearing - welcome ot America in the 21st century - starting to look more and more like America in the 19th century everyday
globalcitizen

Cyprus

#682 Aug 4, 2008
Rusty Shackleford wrote:
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It's a deal then.
I won't tell people how many children to have, and they won't whine that they need my money to support them.
Also, as part of the deal, people who own companies can choose how much to pay their employees, not the collective?
Deal?
of course its going to be judge by collective.
when the 2 million employes of wall mart unionize it will take 1 week of strike to help wal mart get across its legal obligations.
obama should legislate for labor rights .
it sad that americ is turning slowly to africa , with millions living on 20 000 a year family incomes,way below poverty levels.
Packeryman

Corpus Christi, TX

#683 Aug 4, 2008
BatMan wrote:
Unions are the reason we cannot compete in this world. They have destroyed the steel and auto industries. The whole state of michigan is in the crapper thanks to greedy unions demanding 6 digit pay for sub-minimum wage jobs of putting on the same damned lug nut day after day. Our "cars" are plastic junk that cost far more than they are worth. I look for US union labels on ALL products, if I spot the label, I do NOT buy the product. They are just another liberal money grabbing machine, nothing more.
You are one ignorant individual. You have probably never had the pleasure to work in a state that didn't have the RIGHT TO WORK FOR LESS LAW (14B of the Taft-Hartley Act) I left the state of Texas In 1975 because of the control the petro-chem business began invoke on building trades occupation. I can guarantee that any craftman working above the Mason-Dixon will make two to three times in a lifetime in a union as to an individual working rat in a right to work state. He will also have a very liviable pension, annuity and he and his wife will have their medical and drug insurance to medicare picked up as one of the benefits of having been a union member. I lived in the south until 1975, then moved north and worked. After retiring I returned to Texas and I see how the non-union counterparts have to live in retirement, very sad they had no foresight.

Since: Jul 08

woodbridge

#684 Aug 4, 2008
my buddy gets 6.50 at walmart, cashier. been there a year. i guess its regional, nobody but management gets over 9 here.

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#685 Aug 4, 2008
Alan Cozzi wrote:
<quoted text> Garbage products killed those companies FOOL!!! Honda and Toyota just started building cars that bread far far less than a GM or Ford. Period.
I agree - it is not the same thing as what is happening at wlamarts at all - those auto makers simply made a superior product. Detroit killed itself by failing to give the people what they wanted. Reliable automobiles.
Barbara

Peabody, MA

#686 Aug 4, 2008
Dave wrote:
Hey,unions would be great for Wal-mart,just look what they did for Ford,GM,US steel,Eastern airlines...
Never mind.
Here's the scoop on Eastern Airlines: Lorenzo bought the whole airline for only $615 million, adding Eastern to his existing prizes of People's Express, Frontier Airlines, Texas Air, and New York Air.

Lorenzo was ruthless in using Eastern's core assets for his other airlines, devising various ways to use them to make money for his other properties. He let Texas Air “purchase” Eastern's advanced reservation system but issued only an I.O.U. for it. Eastern then had to pay Texas Air a monthly fee of $10 million to use its own system. He “sold” six of Eastern's planes to Continental but paid nothing for them. The result was that, to survive, Eastern had to sell off aircraft and lay off workers in large numbers. As tensions mounted between the labor unions and Lorenzo's harsh tactics, Lorenzo slowly began to dismantle Eastern and sell off its parts. When the unions struck in March 1989, Lorenzo filed for bankruptcy. This gave him some breathing room and allowed him to use strikebreakers to continue operations. By this time, however, Eastern was collapsing under its debt, and finally in January 1991, the airline completely ran out of money to operate. In late 1991, the airline was liquidated. Thus ended the life of one of America's greatest domestic airlines.

Lorenzo gave Eastern's assets to his other airlines.....didn't care about Eastern...only $$$$ How very Republican of him.

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