As You See It: Oct. 3, 2010

Oct 3, 2010 Read more: Santa Cruz Sentinel 31
You either believe in preserving historical homes or you do not. The City Council, for the first time, has overruled its Historic Preservation Commission for the purpose of granting a historical alternation permit for a home yet to be improved. Read more
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Liver Spot

San Francisco, CA

#1 Oct 3, 2010
Will Hay I understand where you are coming from.
13:1-7 states: "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.
Bingo

Upland, CA

#2 Oct 3, 2010
Hey Will Hay...What part of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" do you not understand?
Carla Bjurman

AOL

#3 Oct 3, 2010
On the Martha Dolciamore letter: I have filed to pay taxes for household employees. It is a difficult job...you have to keep records of every little thing and do alot of paperwork with the IRS and the Social Security Administration and it costs alot. That is why most people who hire household employees do NOT pay social security and other taxes for them. The obvious point that Whitman and her husband would not have paid social security and other taxes for thier household employee if they didn't believer her lie that she was in the US legally and accept her forged documents.
They wouldn't have gotten a notice that there might be a typo of mixup if they hadn't gone above and beyond and reported her salary and paid taxes on it. The fact that Whitman's proper husband gave the notice with a scribbled note for their household employee to look into means he had believed her lie and accepted her forged documents and thought there was a typo or other minor error in her information that she would easily clear up with social security.
There is no other explanation than Whitman and her husband were victims of their household employee's INTENT TO DEFRAUD. The California State Penal Code 470 is just one of the serious felonies their houshold employee committed. PC 470 is based on the criminal's intent to defraud and that is obvious to all now that Allred outed her.
When Whitman found out she and her husband had been victims of their household employee's criminal act they fired her but did not press charges. They have once more become her victims, close to an election and with no charges that would stand up in court except against the criminal household employee who victimized them with her intend to defraud. Let this be a lesson to all those who would hire a household employee...some Latinos are forgers who will victimize you.
Jake

San Jose, CA

#4 Oct 3, 2010
Actually it is "Though Shalt Not Murder" which is the unjust/unlawful taking of a life. Capital Punishment is the lawful taking life.
Reality

Belmont, CA

#5 Oct 3, 2010
The Bible allows for capital punishment in many cases Mr. Hay, not the least of which is when someone sheds the blood of another.
Pretty straight forward stuff.
Mike

Newark, CA

#6 Oct 3, 2010
Reality wrote:
The Bible allows for capital punishment in many cases Mr. Hay, not the least of which is when someone sheds the blood of another.
Pretty straight forward stuff.
Not when your name is Will Hay and it doesn't fit your position statement.
Brown droppings

AOL

#8 Oct 3, 2010
Martha Dolciamore: Yeah, a lot of lies out there...like the one that the Brown campaign had absolutely no involvement in this smear. Well, except for it being generated by his longtime supporter Allred, and carried out by the SEIU union he helped create during his previous term as governor. King Henry II of England also didn't personally murder Thomas Becket. Like Jerry Brown, he had obedient servants to volunteer the deed for him.
James Bond

Upland, CA

#9 Oct 3, 2010
Shioban Ranklin...Interesting LTE. You simply and clearly point out a common course of action our Cities leaders have taken for decades. Aside from letting Cosco locate within the City limits I can't think of any other large business that has come to Santa Cruz that would provde jobs and tax revenue. If you remember Santa Cruz didn't welcome Cosco with open arms. Cosco was headed to Capitola just as the car dealers did. There was so much talk about additional traffic going to and coming from Harvey West. Interestingly enough traffic wasn't an issue when they remodeled the Tannery and when they put Surfside Produce out of business to house the metro center. No, the City has done it's best to drive big business away, I.E. Wrigley's and Lipton and more than I can remember and along with them many very good paying jobs. The City won't allow new large business' to locate here, I.E. Lowes and Home Depot. Think of the jobs and the tax revenue lost. Then when the City spends to much money or wants to spend more which is always, they have to come up with ways to get more money from City residents. Just look at the new utility tax they want. They have come up with several taxes that are are not called taxes. Case in point is the elevation tax people on the upper Westside pay for water. A "fun tax", wow, are we having fun yet? They tax every utility you use and they want to make a "Lexus Lane" on Hwy 1 to collect more taxes. I wouldn't doubt someday we'll see toll booths on Hwys 17, 1 and 9 because all roads will be toll roads. This is what the Liberal/Progressive Leadership has brought to Santa Cruz and it's also the land of entitlements not opportunity which has made Santa Cruz the butt of many jokes at least Nationwide. We are always at the lowest or the highest part of the social scale depending on your political belief. It's not something to be proud of Santa Cruz especially when you look across the bay to the Monterey Penninsula where the cities there seem to really have their acts together. Something Santa Cruz should strive for someday.
Skiros 14

United States

#10 Oct 3, 2010
Shioban Ranklin- Awesome Letter. I doubt you will get an explanation. Santa Cruz is one of the meanest spirited town for those who don't fallow the Progressive (regressive) line. Ron and Foster have one advantage, they get a new set of voters every year who don't know the past or history of this town. Both are in the mold of Fitzmourice, Krohn, Sugar, Warmhoudt, Weed, Scott, Biers, Yokohama, Reich, Patton, Laird etc. They have totally ruined this town.
Patti

Oakland, CA

#11 Oct 3, 2010
Brown droppings wrote:
Martha Dolciamore: Yeah, a lot of lies out there...like the one that the Brown campaign had absolutely no involvement in this smear. Well, except for it being generated by his longtime supporter Allred, and carried out by the SEIU union he helped create during his previous term as governor. King Henry II of England also didn't personally murder Thomas Becket. Like Jerry Brown, he had obedient servants to volunteer the deed for him.
Brown shows his true colors. It is shameful what he did. To sacrifice that woman to win an election is just plain creepy.
Hey Will

San Jose, CA

#12 Oct 3, 2010
Thou Shall not Murder. Huge difference.
Bark

Salinas, CA

#13 Oct 3, 2010
"A lie keeps growing and growing until it's as plain as the nose on your face."

Martha, you are actually buying into the fact the Gloria Aldred just took the case of an illegal alien allegedly owed a few hundred in travel time? Remember the last governor's race when Ms. Aldred found another poor victim of an evil Republican two weeks before that election? You are either gullible or vote democrat...wait.
James Bond

Upland, CA

#14 Oct 3, 2010
Will Hay...why don't you ask the many people who've committed murders why they didn't ask themselves the question you want us to ask of ourselves. Your post reeks hypocrisy. The only thing wrong with the death penalty is that it isn't more swift.
Hill billie

Los Gatos, CA

#15 Oct 3, 2010
Shioban Ranklin, good points. The county needs more economic development that benefits all the residents, not just a select few. One error in your letter, however, the Home Depot is not in Capitola, and they don't get the sales tax revenue. It's in Soquel (unincorporated County) and the County gets the portion of the sales tax revenue that is returned to local governments.
brad

San Jose, CA

#16 Oct 3, 2010
Kathy Riley wrote:
I don't understand why the City Council voted to budget $60,000 for the downtown Halloween event. Unless those revenues are made up by big sales in the restaurants that evening, it doesn't make sense at all for the use of funds at this juncture. Those funds could be used to hire a half-time police officer or extra security for our city all year-round. Yet, we are expected to vote Yes on Measure H, to increase our taxes to pay for General Fund expenditures? Why not make it an event for kids and close off downtown at night and let adults make their own parties and save our taxpayers' money? Either that or charge $5 a person to pay for the extra policing. The city has already cut social program funding by 40 percent to our poor, disabled, elderly, etc., yet is willing to put up this kind of money for a few hours of fun downtown? It doesn't make sense to me.
Kathy, I had the joy of working the downtown Halloween fiasco for 18 years. Halloween is factually an unplanned event and there is no way practical way to close the Downtown area and businesses to pedestrians (you can't charge admission to the city). The job of the police is to keep the peace, something that has become increasing more difficult as gang members continue to view the event as a means to their want of violence. You can try and make the event more kid friendly, but most responsible parents have their kids home by 9 PM. The truth is Halloween has been co-opted by the makers of adult beverages as another reason to dress up funny/party and get drunk and stupid and we are paying the price.
come again and again

Longview, WA

#17 Oct 3, 2010
Bingo wrote:
Hey Will Hay...What part of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" do you not understand?
actually that is not the whole verse, i suggest you see what the whole verse says, according to jesus, in the new testiment. jesus was totally against an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. he said you should turn the other cheek. an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth... the whole world would be blind and toothless. peace.
loweroceanlocal

Longview, WA

#18 Oct 3, 2010
Rebel Mountain Man wrote:
Martha Dolciamore I am so sick of the lies coming from latinos and the pro illegal alien people about the Whitman housekeeper. Ms. Diaz stole SSI numbers from a relative and bought a fake CDL to be able to get work from the company Whitman went though to get a housekeeper. This is a perfect example of just how bad illegals are, I'm sick of hearing from the pro illegal alien crowd that "they are all just hard working HONEST people" HORSE HOCKEY. The majority of them are just like Diaz liars and thieves. Ms. diaz isn't even going to be deported over this and she seriously broke our laws. Where is the justice anymore? Rewarding law breakers? No wonder kids these days are so messed up.
and meg whitman is a liar if she says she didn't know that this woman was an illegal alien. politicians are able to vet their employees, and even find things out about their opponents' employees, which they use in their mud slinging television advertisements. she could have easily used her connections to figure out that this was an illegal, and there is no reason that she wouldn't, other than she already knew. i am absolutely against illegal immigration, and against meg whitman, the liar.
dON

Santa Cruz, CA

#19 Oct 3, 2010
come again and again wrote:
<quoted text> actually that is not the whole verse, i suggest you see what the whole verse says, according to jesus, in the new testiment. jesus was totally against an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. he said you should turn the other cheek. an eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth... the whole world would be blind and toothless. peace.
Are you ignoring the 3 references to this in the Torah books?

http://www.adventistbiblicalresearch.org/Bibl...
Highspanic Madrigal

Concord, CA

#20 Oct 3, 2010
Pamela Comstock rightly criticizes Tony Madrigal's elitist putdown of the poor as having criminal tendencies, but Watsonville's city councilman Manuel Bersamin was even worse at the Sept. 28 hearing on fluoridation - which he helped approve. In arguing for the necessity of fluoridation, Bersamin claimed poorer residents are not educated enough to know how or why to brush their teeth, saying (quoted from Oct. 2nd Register-Pajaronian editorial):

"We're talking about parents with less than an elementary educations. They don't understand preventative dental care. When you say 'Why don't they stop kids from eating these candies?' I don't know what world you're living in."

Like editor Jon Chown added to that quote: "These folks working in our fields may lack a formal education, but they are not stupid." Well to "High-spanics" Madrigal and Bersamin they are naturally stupid, and with a criminal inclination. Pathetic!
The Architect

Rio Vista, CA

#21 Oct 3, 2010
Great letters to the editor today Santa Cruzians. All except Will Hay, who is typically ignored anyway. Hey Will, the 10 commandments, which you know handily, so you can launch your ad hominem attacks on secular religions, is a guideline, NOT law. Jesus, who died for our sins, was too a sinner. God forgives, if you show penance. You should know this. As one consciously uses the 10 commandments as a guideline, I do recognize that the "I shall not kill" commandments is one of grave consequence in the afterlife. It is in fact, a mortal sin, a sin of more consequence than say a white lie. Knowing it is wrong, though, what then again what do you do to a serial killer or rapist of children? Forgive them? Maybe, but try telling that to the killer's and rapist's family. I like the "due unto other, as you would have done to yourself" to negate your argument. But thanks for sharing your views. I "forgive" you for your animosity toward faith based people like me.

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