Ontario Wal-Mart Supercenter issue heading for court decision

Full story: Inland Valley Daily Bulletin

The fight to prevent a Wal-Mart Supercenter from being built at Mountain Avenue and Fifth Street will now go to San Bernardino Superior Court.
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Matt from Ontario

Simi Valley, CA

#1 Feb 16, 2009
I live a half mile from the area and I honestly would not want it there. I am hoping to support an anti-incumbent slate in 2010's city council elections so we could replace Wapner and Bowman and Leon.

Wal-Mart already invested millions to remodel their store on Benson Ave in Upland. All we need to do is rebuy the lot from wal-mart and build apartments instead.
SAW

Pomona, CA

#2 Feb 16, 2009
No apartments, please! How about an attractive little strip mall like the current one on Sixth and Mountain? All of the small businesses now in the area are just holding on as it is. All it would take to bring them down is a huge 24 hour Wal-Mart with its traffic, and middle-of-the night transients, and drug addicts.
Calvin

Sylmar, CA

#3 Feb 16, 2009
"The lawsuit cites residents' concerns about traffic impacts and air pollution to the city if the store were built, Briggs said."
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Oh, come on. When Target, Food 4 Less, and Toys r Us were planning to open their stores on the same location, where were these NIMBY residents to complain about the traffic that it would cause??? And then people seemed to get used to it.
SAW

Pomona, CA

#4 Feb 16, 2009
Calvin wrote:
"The lawsuit cites residents' concerns about traffic impacts and air pollution to the city if the store were built, Briggs said."
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Oh, come on. When Target, Food 4 Less, and Toys r Us were planning to open their stores on the same location, where were these NIMBY residents to complain about the traffic that it would cause??? And then people seemed to get used to it.
The area's residents never wanted any of that stuff to begin with. The whole corner used to be the Lomitas nine-hole golf course with a separate driving range. Then the former Mayor Latimer sold it. The result was apartments, condos, and the rotating businesses. The area does not need any more apartments. The planned Wal-mart will bring down every other small business in the area, and you won't have to wait long to see the blight that will result.
javi

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Feb 17, 2009
doesnt walmart already have a sams club next to target?
Matt from Ontario

Simi Valley, CA

#6 Feb 17, 2009
Then SAW what do you want to fill the land?

The Ontario Redevelopment Agency wants to put more business on that parcel, if not walmart or apartments, then What?

Or, why not have a parcel tax for the residents of the area to buy the lot from walmart and we will just leave it vacant!
chino man

Pomona, CA

#7 Feb 17, 2009
used to live over there. Apartments = crap. Let Walmart build there. Mountain doesnt move as it is anyways. We need to spur the economy not fight it.
enna

Victorville, CA

#8 Feb 17, 2009
How many Wal-marts does one area need? There has to be something else that could be built in that area. How about a park?
Professor X

Los Angeles, CA

#9 Feb 17, 2009
The land is zoned commercial--the residents lost the fight on that when the city sold the golf course, it sounds like. I'd be mad too, but that was a separate issue. Now you have the shopping center and parking lot, and Wal-Mart seems to own the land. They want to put in a business that is consistent with the zoning. The environmental report is just a smokescreen, it appears. So the question is whether to have a blighted, empty shopping center, or a Super Center. Wal-Mart is acting within the law, so it sounds like this is just the standard "Wal-Mart is Eville" routine...
Woody

San Bernardino, CA

#10 Feb 17, 2009
Build the Walmart, its better than 3 Buildings falling apart in front of are faces. What is everybody CRYING About when there use to be 3 full time running stores all day and night, I worked the Toy's r US in the 1980's at 20-21 yr's old, no complant back then...What the hell do we need another park when there is one right there?? You People didn;t CRY when The Bowling Alley and the Court House came DOWN and got replaced with a Theater and a mall with Different stores? GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!
Woody form Montclair

San Bernardino, CA

#11 Feb 17, 2009
NOT POMONA, BUILD THE WALMART and They WILL COME!!
The Evil Walmart Empire

Claremont, CA

#12 Feb 17, 2009
finish the freakin' thing already. these lawsuits are frivolous crap.
SAW

Upland, CA

#13 Feb 17, 2009
Matt from Ontario wrote:
Then SAW what do you want to fill the land?
The Ontario Redevelopment Agency wants to put more business on that parcel, if not walmart or apartments, then What?
Or, why not have a parcel tax for the residents of the area to buy the lot from walmart and we will just leave it vacant!
I would like to see a strip mall anchored by a nice restaurant or variety store and lots of little shops with lots of interesting items. That way you have a lot of businesses that will have a chance. If this huge Wal-mart comes in, all of the surrounding little businesses that are now in the malls at Mountain and 4th and Mountain and 6th go down, and what you have left is a one-stop business with transients and drug addicts hanging around during the late night and early morning hours. I know that because I have talked with an ex-employee of a 24-hour Wal-mart.
matt from ontario

Simi Valley, CA

#14 Feb 17, 2009
then, lets make some concessions where super walmart would only be 24/7 during christmas season.
Another mini mall would be difficult and stupid due to all the vacant store fronts north and south of the 10.

honestly the best parcel for super walmart is on monte vista and moreno. good parking and plenty of space.

i would love to see a super walmart, but the city council needs to listen to its residents first instead of whoring themselves as paid consultants like wapner.
SAW

Upland, CA

#15 Feb 17, 2009
matt from ontario wrote:
then, lets make some concessions where super walmart would only be 24/7 during christmas season.
Another mini mall would be difficult and stupid due to all the vacant store fronts north and south of the 10.
honestly the best parcel for super walmart is on monte vista and moreno. good parking and plenty of space.
i would love to see a super walmart, but the city council needs to listen to its residents first instead of whoring themselves as paid consultants like wapner.
Walmart has already had a Sams Club on that parcel at Moreno and Monte Vista. After that and the adjacent small businesses closes, the parcel had been scheduled for high density condo housing, but the economy troubles delayed those plans. My biggest concern is having the area at Mountain and 5th end up with just one big store for everything. You would see the Albertson's go and possibly the Staters in Montclair which is currently the towns only supermarket.

If that Walmart development does end up going in, it should not be open 24 hours. As I stated in my previous post, you end up with transients and drug addicts prowling the store and outside premises throughout the night. That is not fair to the adjacent residents. Also, the Walmart Corporation allows self contained trucks and recreation vehicles to park in their lots overnight. I would think that the residents in the area need to step up their opposition. I don't know why they never approached the Montclair residents just up the street.
John

West Hollywood, CA

#16 Feb 17, 2009
enna wrote:
How many Wal-marts does one area need? There has to be something else that could be built in that area. How about a park?
How about a skate park or some kind of entertainment center.All of the rest is on the east side.
Halkshaw

Los Angeles, CA

#17 Feb 17, 2009
I was at the Chino Hills super store Sunday night. I had to wait for 25 min to get out of their. It does not matter what they build or where they build it. If you can not ring up the customer in a timely matter the customers will not shop their. I like the WalMarts with out a grocery store it takes half the time to check out. The City should require them to have a ten min check out time.
amazed

East Liverpool, OH

#18 Feb 17, 2009
if walmart doesn't get to build there...they will take their "revenue" to another city that welcomes them....and ontario will lose out on yet another revenue stream......

and the blight will just continue as the area isn't enticing enough for anything upscale...and with the economy...what other chain would build when they are scaling back everything elsewhere...

blighted now....just wait after another year of legal battles and delays....
Wes Cov Res

Azusa, CA

#19 Feb 17, 2009
The city needs the tax revenue from Wal-Mart. These are tough times, the small stores around the area are going to suffer with or without Wal-Mart.
Woody from Montclair

San Bernardino, CA

#20 Feb 17, 2009
I agree with the last two people #18,19. The City needs the revenue to build something that we don't already have in the area. Target moved because I'm thinking the building is old and out dated , so tear it down and Build 1 new building that has everything that the last 3 tenent's had in 1 building. It's simple math. Traffic won't change,it didn't change when costco went up and look how big that is???? Build it

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