6 dead in Polk County plane crash

6 dead in Polk County plane crash

There are 44 comments on the Click Orlando story from Jun 7, 2012, titled 6 dead in Polk County plane crash. In it, Click Orlando reports that:

Polk County fire officials said the crash happened about 1 p.m. near Walk in Water Road, which is located by David's Wines Airstrip Airport in the Tiger Creek Preserve.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Click Orlando.

First Prev
of 3
Next Last

“its all just my opinion anyway”

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1 Jun 7, 2012
Does anybody know the deatails on this poor family that died on Todd Maculousco's old plane? Wonder why things were falling off it before the crash? was it a lemmon and that is why Todd sold it? just wondering
sad citizen

Rossville, KS

#2 Jun 7, 2012
Unfortunately Ron Bramlage and his family, all of them. So very sad.
Robert from Polk County

United States

#5 Jun 8, 2012
I was working in the area when the plane went down , i know nuthing but i can tell you there was thunderstorms in the area and there were people leaving the lake because of thunder...
That might have not a thing to do with the crash but it crossed my mind..
It was raining with low clouds..
Skip- retired 737 Captain

Rochester, NY

#6 Jun 8, 2012
The aircraft probably came apart as it was descending because the pilot lost control of it trying to recover from a steep spiral (possibly thunderstorm penetration). Happens every day somewhere. High performance aircraft should NOT be flown by non-professionals.
Rastous

Newton, IL

#7 Jun 8, 2012
Was Ron a "Non- Professional?"

Guess you know it may take up to a year to find the cause of the crash.
Jerryj

United States

#8 Jun 8, 2012
Rastous wrote:
Was Ron a "Non- Professional?"
Guess you know it may take up to a year to find the cause of the crash.
With all do respect sir, yes he was a non-professional. He was a private pilot with a single-engine land instrument rating. On top of that, he had three months or so of experience with the accident aircraft. There is a huge difference between flying as a side activity and flying professionally. The accident statistics have proven this over and over again for decades. I sincerely hope that this accident points away from pilot inexperience as a cause. However, given the history of accidents like this the odds are strongly against it. This was no doubt a wonderful family.. If only our country had more like them........what a devastating loss.
Rastous

Newton, IL

#9 Jun 8, 2012
Jerryj wrote:
<quoted text>
With all do respect sir, yes he was a non-professional. He was a private pilot with a single-engine land instrument rating. On top of that, he had three months or so of experience with the accident aircraft. There is a huge difference between flying as a side activity and flying professionally. The accident statistics have proven this over and over again for decades. I sincerely hope that this accident points away from pilot inexperience as a cause. However, given the history of accidents like this the odds are strongly against it. This was no doubt a wonderful family.. If only our country had more like them........what a devastating loss.
Oh. O.K. Thanks.
Skip- retired 737 Captain

Rochester, NY

#10 Jun 9, 2012
The National Transportation Safety Board will be able to determine the probable cause of this accident quite quickly because of the nature of the wreckage. The aircraft obviously started to come apart before it hit the ground because all the wreckage and bodies were not found in the same spot. They will probably issue a preliminary report in the next couple of weeks, but the final report will take up to a year. A very inexperienced pilot, thunderstorms, and a very high performance aircraft make a dangerous combination.
Livetofly

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#11 Jun 9, 2012
"The aircraft probably came apart as it was descending because the pilot lost control of it trying to recover from a steep spiral (possibly thunderstorm penetration"

Look at the crash site pics. If this plane went in a spiral, it didn't stay in one long and if it was in a spiral and started to break apart, the wings and fusleage wouldn't have still been intact because chances are it would have impacted the ground differntly.

“its all just my opinion anyway”

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#12 Jun 9, 2012
Livetofly wrote:
"The aircraft probably came apart as it was descending because the pilot lost control of it trying to recover from a steep spiral (possibly thunderstorm penetration"
Look at the crash site pics. If this plane went in a spiral, it didn't stay in one long and if it was in a spiral and started to break apart, the wings and fusleage wouldn't have still been intact because chances are it would have impacted the ground differntly.
I was wondering if the pilot tried to make a controled landing? It didnt look that banged up considering. I did hear it may have been his maiden voyage. So sorry for them...:-(
good point

Junction City, KS

#13 Jun 9, 2012
Livetofly wrote:
"The aircraft probably came apart as it was descending because the pilot lost control of it trying to recover from a steep spiral (possibly thunderstorm penetration"
Look at the crash site pics. If this plane went in a spiral, it didn't stay in one long and if it was in a spiral and started to break apart, the wings and fusleage wouldn't have still been intact because chances are it would have impacted the ground differntly.
Survivors have walked out of more heavily damaged planes. The windows were even still intact and little noticeable fire damage evident. It looked like a controlled emergency landing.
Rastous

Clay City, IL

#14 Jun 9, 2012
Skip- retired 737 Captain wrote:
The National Transportation Safety Board will be able to determine the probable cause of this accident quite quickly because of the nature of the wreckage. The aircraft obviously started to come apart before it hit the ground because all the wreckage and bodies were not found in the same spot. They will probably issue a preliminary report in the next couple of weeks, but the final report will take up to a year. A very inexperienced pilot, thunderstorms, and a very high performance aircraft make a dangerous combination.
Oh. O.K. Thanks.
Skip- retired 737 Captain

Rochester, NY

#15 Jun 9, 2012
good point wrote:
<quoted text>Survivors have walked out of more heavily damaged planes. The windows were even still intact and little noticeable fire damage evident. It looked like a controlled emergency landing.
Did you look at the same crash photos that I did? The horizontal tail (the part that controls pitch) and the outer 2/3 of the right wing are conspicuously missing. This was no controlled forced landing. Parts of the aircraft and the body of one of the children were found almost 1/2 mile from the main crash site. Structural failure caused by overstressing in a failed attempt to recover from an unusual attitude. What caused that unusual attitude is anyone's guess.
Donald Santore

Largo, FL

#16 Jun 9, 2012
tired of the lies wrote:
Does anybody know the deatails on this poor family that died on Todd Maculousco's old plane? Wonder why things were falling off it before the crash? was it a lemmon and that is why Todd sold it? just wondering
As a trained pilot and aircraft owner I can suggest with confidence that "things" just don't fall off airplanes. That will not happen as long as the airplane is being operated within the design limits if the aircraft. This airplane came apart due to stresses that exceeded those limits and the most common cause of overstress is a weather related event. When approaching a thunderstorm weather system in which they were headed, the pilot must give a minimum of 20 mile girth around such a system. That was a powerful storm in Florida and the storm-cloud ceiling had to be extremely high. He should NOT have flown that day.
Pampered Chef

Clay City, IL

#17 Jun 9, 2012
Donald Santore wrote:
<quoted text>
As a trained pilot and aircraft owner I can suggest with confidence that "things" just don't fall off airplanes. That will not happen as long as the airplane is being operated within the design limits if the aircraft. This airplane came apart due to stresses that exceeded those limits and the most common cause of overstress is a weather related event. When approaching a thunderstorm weather system in which they were headed, the pilot must give a minimum of 20 mile girth around such a system. That was a powerful storm in Florida and the storm-cloud ceiling had to be extremely high. He should NOT have flown that day.
He had a pot roast in the oven at home. Had to fly.
Tylor

Sanford, FL

#18 Jun 10, 2012
It could also be possible that he entered icing conditions, Sumer time in Florida has some of the worst icing
Strange Connection

Junction City, KS

#19 Jun 11, 2012
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/258494/19/Ca...

Casey Anthony's attorneys formerly owned plane in Lake Wales crash

Lake Wales, Florida - The plane that was once owned by the lawyer for Casey Anthony and involved in a 2011 Anthony hoax was the same plane that crashed and killed the six people on board Thursday afternoon.

Records show the plane, a Pilatus PC-12 turboprop, single-engine plane with tail #N950KA, was once owned by former Anthony lawyer Todd Macaluso and was part of a hoax in the summer of 2011, with a Anthony look-a-like running from the plane at Orlando Executive Airport. Anthony had just been acquitted of the murder of her daughter, Caylee Anthony. The plane was sold just three months ago.The same plane was used to whisk Casey Anthony out of the state last year one hour after her release from jail.

10 News spoke to Macaluso Thursday night. He tells us the plane had a clean bill of health when it was sold three months ago and had an excellent history during the three years he owned it. Macaluso is a trial attorney that represents families of airline crash victims and used the plane for his company and to fly his own family on vacations.

Polk County fire officials said the crash happened about 1 p.m. near Walk in Water Road, which is located by David's Wines Airstrip Airport in the Tiger Creek Preserve. The cause of the crash remains unknown.
Skip not 737 capt

New York, NY

#20 Jun 11, 2012
Skip- retired 737 Captain wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you look at the same crash photos that I did? The horizontal tail (the part that controls pitch) and the outer 2/3 of the right wing are conspicuously missing. This was no controlled forced landing. Parts of the aircraft and the body of one of the children were found almost 1/2 mile from the main crash site. Structural failure caused by overstressing in a failed attempt to recover from an unusual attitude. What caused that unusual attitude is anyone's guess.
Nice try saying you were a 737 captain, but the "vertical tail" (which is actually called the vertical stabilizer) does not control pitch; the elevator controls pitch. Also, the unusual attitude he found himself in was plummeting to earth because the thunderstorm ripped the plane apart. He flew right into a powerful storm. Classic case of more money than brains.
Rastous

Olney, IL

#21 Jun 11, 2012
Skip not 737 capt wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try saying you were a 737 captain, but the "vertical tail" (which is actually called the vertical stabilizer) does not control pitch; the elevator controls pitch. Also, the unusual attitude he found himself in was plummeting to earth because the thunderstorm ripped the plane apart. He flew right into a powerful storm. Classic case of more money than brains.
Nice thing about Topix you can be who you want especially if they can get someone to believe there story.. Gives em a chance to escape reality for a brief moment.
bob

Atlanta, GA

#22 Jun 12, 2012
Skip not 737 capt wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try saying you were a 737 captain, but the "vertical tail" (which is actually called the vertical stabilizer) does not control pitch; the elevator controls pitch. Also, the unusual attitude he found himself in was plummeting to earth because the thunderstorm ripped the plane apart. He flew right into a powerful storm. Classic case of more money than brains.
where did he say vertical?

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 3
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Air Accidents Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Ohio.com - Miracle means heaven can wait (Aug '07) Sun old friend 62
News MH 17: Uncertainty even a year after (Jul '15) Jun 22 TERRORIST RUSSIA 91
News Greece: 4 dead, 340 people rescued from migrant... Jun 3 Jack 6
News NSTB: Plane destroyed after collision with trees May '16 Bob Is An Idiot 2
News House GOP presses ahead with Zika measure May '16 Pope Out To Pasture 1
News Remembering the lost, celebrating the found May '16 Art 1
News Annual Katyn Forest Massacre memorial service A... Mar '16 uther pendragon 1
More from around the web