Fatal plane crash stuns Wellington Ae...

Fatal plane crash stuns Wellington Aero Club community -- South...

There are 22 comments on the South Florida Sun-Sentinel story from Aug 21, 2007, titled Fatal plane crash stuns Wellington Aero Club community -- South.... In it, South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that:

Wellington It was a sound Diane Keller noticed first. A muffled growl that seemed different from all the other times she had heard airplanes take off and land in this close-knit aviation community.

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Captain Crash

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#1 Aug 21, 2007
Letting people with money operate flying machinery over the heads of innocents is a crime. Sooner or later, through stupidity or cheapness, they will crash and kill people on the ground. Owning and flying planes should come with such extreme regulations that stupid people are kept on the ground. This was an 'experiment' gone bad. Experimental planes should be confined to desert flights over controlled courses.
mike

Covington, LA

#2 Aug 21, 2007
can someone take this guys comments off this web page? It is not very sympathetic to the family.
Just a Girl

New Orleans, LA

#4 Aug 21, 2007
mike wrote:
can someone take this guys comments off this web page? It is not very sympathetic to the family.
thank you Mike for your comment. it's not the time and place. who's the stupid one? I've been to this dog park in Wellington just off Greenbrier. The people there are nothing like some people I find here in Broward (as you can tell from the previous comment). I don't have money, or even a half decent looking car, but I do like driving around and seeing the homes with the little planes. I have an old car, and they see me, and they wave at me and say hello. They don't really care who I am. I'm so sorry for the children.
Just a Girl

New Orleans, LA

#5 Aug 21, 2007
Captain Crash wrote:
Letting people with money operate flying machinery over the heads of innocents is a crime. Sooner or later, through stupidity or cheapness, they will crash and kill people on the ground. Owning and flying planes should come with such extreme regulations that stupid people are kept on the ground. This was an 'experiment' gone bad. Experimental planes should be confined to desert flights over controlled courses.
You are a jealous stupid ignorant MORON. Stupidity must run in your DNA. Dumb A***.
Just a Girl

New Orleans, LA

#6 Aug 21, 2007
RV6 Guy wrote:
I celebrate my freedom to fly my pristinely built "amateur built" aircraft, the same way you enjoy your freedom to vomit your ignorant, misinformed windbag opinion in public forums.
Now you said "people with money" crash because they are "cheap". So which one is it Capt. Contradiction?
If only us dumb pilots were as smart as you. Get a life.
God should feel sorry for us for having made people like this Capt. jerk-off. There is no name for this loser "L".
Chris

Port Saint Lucie, FL

#7 Aug 21, 2007
On more complicated (and expensive) privately owned aircraft, insurance companies demand training and proficiency levels far higher than does the FAA. If they did this on small single engine airplanes as well it would save lives.
concerned one

United States

#8 Aug 21, 2007
Captain Crash wrote:
Letting people with money operate flying machinery over the heads of innocents is a crime. Sooner or later, through stupidity or cheapness, they will crash and kill people on the ground. Owning and flying planes should come with such extreme regulations that stupid people are kept on the ground. This was an 'experiment' gone bad. Experimental planes should be confined to desert flights over controlled courses.
TOUCHE ! RIGHT ON !
Leaving everything else aside and simply looking at it just from the perspective of the well being of the surviving children of the couple plus the innocent public, which is the only thing of any real importance now, I would have to fully agree.
norm

AOL

#9 Aug 21, 2007
Just remember what Superman said
"Statistically it is still the safest way to travel"
RED BARON

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#11 Aug 21, 2007
I feel sorry for the family and the children who were orphaned by this tragedy. However, how could a fatal plane crash "stun" the Wellington Aero Club? These little single-engine planes are almost like ultra-lights with a bigger engine and surrounded by a thin sheet of metal.
Tony Montana

Miami, FL

#12 Aug 21, 2007
I am not rich and I have a pilot's license I just worked hard to get it.Cpt Crash you have no idea so please keep your comment to yourself...first amendment sometimes suck with people like you...
RV6 Guy

Miami, FL

#13 Aug 21, 2007
Chris wrote:
On more complicated (and expensive) privately owned aircraft, insurance companies demand training and proficiency levels far higher than does the FAA. If they did this on small single engine airplanes as well it would save lives.
Chris, I fly both certified (Piper) and Amateur built. Both are insured by one of the 3 main insurance carriers. The currency requirements are the same for both. In my mind the main difference is the experimental, which is the same type of riveted airframe, is new. At the same time the average age of a single engine certified aircraft is approaching 30 years.

In general, most homebuilt aircraft are built to a degree far exceeding what came out of Wichita in any decade. We are allowed to put the newest technology in safety equipment on board, while the Pipers and Cessenas lag behind us waiting for certification.

If you look at the current trends in certified aviation you will see the single engine market is scrambling to keep up with the innovations made by the "experimental" market. We are without question leading the way in aviation innovation both in safety and performance. Just look at the new Cessena line that came out this year. Clearly a take off of the experimentals that have taken so much of their market.
RV6 Guy

Miami, FL

#14 Aug 21, 2007
RED BARON wrote:
However, how could a fatal plane crash "stun" the Wellington Aero Club? These little single-engine planes are almost like ultra-lights with a bigger engine and surrounded by a thin sheet of metal.
Because they are a close knit community who are good friends, you know like PEOPLE. BTW, there are dozens of flights out of there daily, and the last fatality was in 97. Pretty good record.

Not exactly an aviation expert are ya, you wear your ignorance like a crown.
INGODSHANDS

Miami, FL

#15 Aug 21, 2007
MY HEART AND PRAYERS FOR THE CHILDERN ,THINK GOD THEY WERE WITH THE LOVING GRAND PARENTS IN CHURCH,MAY GOD GRANT THEM COMFORD ,MY HEART AND PRAYERS GOE'S OUT TO ALL,
THERE IN HEAVEN ,GOD GIVE THE GRANDPARENTS ALL THEY NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDERN.
KR2-S FLYER

Tucson, AZ

#16 Aug 21, 2007
It behoves me to relize there is such a large number of so called intelligent human beings who are on the low side of the bell curve. Stupidity reins with those who still can't figure out why an airplane flys or why we fly. I have had 2 near accidents in certified Cessnas that almost killed me. After that I decided to build my own experimental. At least I know every part in the machine, and any problem would be mine. May those two be blessed and also god bless their children. At least they did what they wanted to in life and not rot on a couch.
2006YFZ450

Tampa, FL

#17 Aug 21, 2007
Dummies...should of stuck with riding horses. Thats what wellington people do right? Why does the state give the Horse community free places to ride all over the state(( they dont pay the state a dime)), but Me an avid atv motocross rider/racer have to pay the state fees and taxes and still have to ride illegaly or drive hours to enjoy my after work hobby!! The dirtbiker in Pompano might still be here if the state had more SAFE< LEGAL, Close Riding areas......If not people will continue to ride where they want!!
COLLIDED

New Orleans, LA

#18 Aug 21, 2007
KR2-S FLYER wrote:
It behoves me to relize there is such a large number of so called intelligent human beings who are on the low side of the bell curve. Stupidity reins with those who still can't figure out why an airplane flys or why we fly. I have had 2 near accidents in certified Cessnas that almost killed me. After that I decided to build my own experimental. At least I know every part in the machine, and any problem would be mine. May those two be blessed and also god bless their children. At least they did what they wanted to in life and not rot on a couch.
You Said it Right..... Amen. We should all have been blessed with having a life like theirs.
Cajunmoon

Jupiter, FL

#19 Aug 21, 2007
I knew Joann personally as well as her son by her previous marriage. While I did not know Scott, my heart and prayers go out for their souls and their loved ones left behind on earth.

This forum is for the souls who perished and the loved ones left behind. I feel it highly inappropriate and in bad taste to decipher what went wrong or to discuss the dynamics of aviation.

Captain Crash is obviously an opinionated cold heartless individual who only values his own thoughts over the lives that have been lost and the lives shattered from this tragedy.
Winds Aloft

AOL

#20 Aug 21, 2007
Cajunmoon wrote:
I knew Joann personally as well as her son by her previous marriage. While I did not know Scott, my heart and prayers go out for their souls and their loved ones left behind on earth.
This forum is for the souls who perished and the loved ones left behind. I feel it highly inappropriate and in bad taste to decipher what went wrong or to discuss the dynamics of aviation.
Captain Crash is obviously an opinionated cold heartless individual who only values his own thoughts over the lives that have been lost and the lives shattered from this tragedy.
While you might feel it inappropriate to discuss the dynamics of the flight or subsequent crash, aviators, by nature, do not. Aviators think more on an analytical level than emotional, and have a need to know the 'why' and 'how' and openly discuss it with each other. Aviators do this in order to do everything we can to avoid the same fate and make flying safer for ourselves and future generations.(That's how and why the NTSB was formed several decades ago)

This is an open forum, not an obituary page, and everyone is welcome to their constitutional 1st Amendment right of free speech.

General Aviation (G.A.) is not merely a 'joyride'. G.A. is a joyous passion little understood by ground-based people, and contributes far more to society than society openly sees at ground or sea level.
Winds Aloft

AOL

#21 Aug 21, 2007
Cajunmoon wrote:
I knew Joann personally as well as her son by her previous marriage. While I did not know Scott, my heart and prayers go out for their souls and their loved ones left behind on earth.
This forum is for the souls who perished and the loved ones left behind. I feel it highly inappropriate and in bad taste to decipher what went wrong or to discuss the dynamics of aviation.
Captain Crash is obviously an opinionated cold heartless individual who only values his own thoughts over the lives that have been lost and the lives shattered from this tragedy.
Futhermore, I completely disagree with Captain Crash. He knows not of what he speaks.
Cajunmoon

Jupiter, FL

#22 Aug 21, 2007
Winds Aloft wrote:
<quoted text>
While you might feel it inappropriate to discuss the dynamics of the flight or subsequent crash, aviators, by nature, do not. Aviators think more on an analytical level than emotional, and have a need to know the 'why' and 'how' and openly discuss it with each other. Aviators do this in order to do everything we can to avoid the same fate and make flying safer for ourselves and future generations.(That's how and why the NTSB was formed several decades ago)
This is an open forum, not an obituary page, and everyone is welcome to their constitutional 1st Amendment right of free speech.
General Aviation (G.A.) is not merely a 'joyride'. G.A. is a joyous passion little understood by ground-based people, and contributes far more to society than society openly sees at ground or sea level.
Granted, it is not an obituary page or forum and it is open to all for comment. I was simply using my right to post my feelings on other posts as well.

Best regards from a ground based individual.

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