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Scientific evidence builds to counter global warming ANOTHER VIEW

There are 191 comments on the The Morning Call story from Dec 29, 2007, titled Scientific evidence builds to counter global warming ANOTHER VIEW. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Heads of state, government bureaucrats, environmental activists, and the news media -- 15,000 strong -- have just completed a global warming conference in Bali, Indonesia.

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litesong

Everett, WA

#192 Dec 30, 2012
PhD wrote:
A 'real' scientist is not having to say you are a 'real' scientist.
A 'real' scientist is not having to say,'I'm not a real scientist, but I play one on TV'.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#193 Dec 31, 2012
litesong wrote:
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A 'real' scientist is not having to say,'I'm not a real scientist, but I play one on TV'.
Then we will be expecting to see you on TV.
litesong

Everett, WA

#194 Jan 2, 2013
phudd feces face wrote:
Then we will be expecting to see you on TV.
Been on TV many times, even a national hookup. Got more than my 15minutes of fame.

'phudd feces face' just disqualified himself.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#195 Jan 2, 2013
pinheadlitesout wrote:
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Been on TV many times, even a national hookup. Got more than my 15minutes of fame.
'phudd feces face' just disqualified himself.
Being on Americas most wanted is hardly something to be proud of.
litesong

Everett, WA

#196 Jan 2, 2013
litesong wrote:
Been on TV many times, even a national hookup. Got more than my 15minutes of fame.
'phudd feces face' just disqualified himself.
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'phudd feces face' wrote:
...... hardly something to be proud of.
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litesong wrote:
'phudd feces face' is jealous, because he was only qualified for the SyFy channel's 'Face Off'.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#197 Jan 3, 2013
pinheadlitesout wrote:
Been on TV many times, even a national hookup. Got more than my 15minutes of fame.
'PHD' pinheadlitesoutjust disqualified himself by being on AMW.
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'PHD' wrote:
...... hardly something to be proud of.
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pinheadlitesout wrote:
'PHD' is jealous, because he was only qualified for the SyFy channel's 'Expert Face Off'.

PHD wrote: Now pinheadlitesout if being on AMW makes you proud than go for it.
litesong

Everett, WA

#198 Jan 13, 2013
Blast from the Past...... with extensions:

PhD wrote:
A 'real' scientist.....
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SpaceBlues wrote:
Is that you ph'd?
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litesong wrote:
Whether you spell it PhD, ph'd or PHD,'phudd' is still 'phudd'.

Of course, phudd has increased the accuracy of its name to 'phud fetid feces face'.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#199 Jan 13, 2013
Cthulhu wrote:
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"Humans cause global warming" is NOT a null proposition, it's an affirmative proposition. You have to prove it.
Well the science is in.

#1 virtually all the world renown science agencies have put out statements warning about the potential serious threats of global warming:

"Since 2007, no scientific body of national or international standing has maintained a dissenting opinion [on global warming - see below]. A few organizations hold non-committal positions >>
taken from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opini...

This includes all the national SCIENCE academies in the world [which study many sciences -- not just climatology]

National Academy of Sciences (United States of America)
Science Council of Japan
Russian Academy of Sciences
Royal Society (United Kingdom)
Australian Academy of Sciences
Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts
Caribbean Academy of Sciences
Indonesian Academy of Sciences
Royal Irish Academy
Academy of Sciences Malaysia Academy
Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand
Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences

All the organizations specializing in climate, atmosphere, ocean, and/or earth sciences
NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies (GISS/NASA)
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA)
National Academy of Sciences (NAS)
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
Royal Society of the United Kingdom (RS)
American Geophysical Union (AGU)
American Institute of Physics (AIP)
National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
American Meteorological Society (AMS)
Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society (CMOS)

These organizations also agree with the consensus:
Royal Meteorological Society Community
American Association for the Advancement of Science
National Research Council
US Office of Science Technology Policy
US National Climatic Data Center
The National Academy of Engineering
The Institute of Medicine
American Chemical Society
The Weather Channel
National Geographic

This is typical:

American Association for the Advancement of Science

The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society. Accumulating data from across the globe reveal a wide array of effects: rapidly melting glaciers, destabilization of major ice sheets, increases in extreme weather, rising sea level, shifts in species ranges, and more. The pace of change and the evidence of harm have increased markedly over the last five years. The time to control greenhouse gas emissions is now. The atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide, a critical greenhouse gas, is higher than it has been for at least 650,000 years.

The average temperature of the Earth is heading for levels not experienced for millions of years. Scientific predictions of the impacts of increasing atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases from fossil fuels and deforestation match observed changes. As expected, intensification of droughts, heat waves, floods, wildfires, and severe storms is occur Delaying action to address climate change will increase the environmental and societal consequences as well as the costs. The longer we wait to tackle climate change, the harder and more expensive the task will be.

http://www.aaas.org/news/press_room/climate_c...

#2 All the mainstream science media supports global warming -- examples: Scientific American, Discover, NewScientist, Science, Science News.

#3 Essentially all the scientific studies in peer review science journals support global warming.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#200 Jan 13, 2013
Aaron W wrote:
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In other words, you would prefer to conduct an experiment over the next 100 years to see if global warming is caused by humans? Because it will take at least that long to conduct an experiment of this sort. What if after 100 years of experimenting, we look back and say "Gee, I guess it was our fault. Sorry kids." In the case of something as long term and as potentially catastrophic as global warming, we need to base our conclusions on the evidence that we currently have and make predictions for the future, and do everything in our power to remove ourselves as potential causes of global warming. Right now, computer models based on historical data are some of the best evidence we have to predict climate fluctuations.
Well said. Here is Scientific American

Enjoy. Don't let it bother you what Scientific American noted now..

Climate Expertise Lacking among Global Warming Contrarians
A majority of scientists who dispute global warming lack the climatological expertise to do so
By David Biello June 22, 2010 37

The new analysis, published June 21 in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, surveyed 908 researchers publishing in scientific journals from around the world on the subject and found that not only were those in the unconvinced camp less expert in the field, they were also less likely to be trained in the climate science.

"A physicist or geologist with a PhD is a scientist, but not a climate scientist and thus their opinions on complex climatological issues is not likely to be expert opinion," says William Anderegg, lead author of the analysis and a biologist-in-training at Stanford University. "Cardiologists, for example, don't prescribe chemotherapies for cancer, nor do oncologists claim expertise at heart surgery-they are all doctors, of course, but not experts outside of a narrow specialty."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm...

AND,

<< There is, in fact, a climate conspiracy. It just happens to be one launched by the fossil fuel industry to obscure the truth about climate change and delay any action...

As physicist and climate historian Spencer Weart told The Washington Post: "It's a symptom of something entirely new in the history of science: Aside from crackpots who complain that a conspiracy is suppressing their personal discoveries, we've never before seen a set of people accuse an entire community of scientists of deliberate deception and other professional malfeasance. Even the tobacco companies never tried to slander legitimate cancer researchers." Well, probably they did, but point taken.>>

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.c...
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#201 Jan 14, 2013
pinheadlitesout wrote:
Blast from the Past...... with extensions:
PhD wrote:
A 'real' scientist.....
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SpacedoutBlues wrote:
Is that you ph'd?
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pinheadlitesout wrote:
Whether you spell it PhD, ph'd or PHD,'phudd' is still 'phudd'.
Of course, I "pinheadlitesout" has increased the accuracy of MY name to 'pinheadlitesout'.
Did you get that check up from the neck up?

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#202 Jan 20, 2013
WatchDog wrote:
Brinson is right on the money in this column. When someone can explain to me how human CO2 generation is causing the the icecaps on Mars to melt, then I will listen to this global warming garbage.
Er, Mars gets much less sunlight than the Earth.

Gee, that was easy.

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