Local police still trust in Tasers; others increasingly skeptical o...

There are 20 comments on the Jul 19, 2010, Eureka Times Standard story titled Local police still trust in Tasers; others increasingly skeptical o.... In it, Eureka Times Standard reports that:

Eureka Police Lt. Antonio Zanotti said he can think of a few instances where a Taser saved an officer's life and a suspect's. On one occasion, a man who was suspected of stealing from the Broadway Mall was brandishing a handgun while walking down Broadway.

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Journalism

Arcata, CA

#1 Jul 19, 2010
Kim Starr and Greg Allen. Great choices to "balance out" your story.
Nunya

San Francisco, CA

#2 Jul 19, 2010
So a citizen refuses to comply with a law enforcement officers order multiple times and gets tazed, now his view of law enforcement has changed! Do what you're told and you won't have to worry about it. Though I am glad that officers carry tasers, I do somewhat agree that they can be used to intimidate. That's what their made to do. Stop defending the stupid people who treat this area like a toilet and respect the laws and the land we all have to share. If this is done, no force will have to be used, lethal or not
Kris

Eureka, CA

#3 Jul 19, 2010
Look at it this way. Some officers carry just a gun, mace, and a baton in some cities. Those cops have one of two choices to make. Gun or baton. One will seriously injur or kill a person and one will injur or seriously injur someone (and I am pretty sure there have been instances where someone has been killed by use of baton). Now give a police officer a taser to add to his list of choices. You use an electronically controlled device on someone and it incapacitates them for about 5 seconds, they get rigid and fall. You get almost immediate compliance from people and 99.75 times out 100 nothing happens to the individual (with the exception of having 2 barbs in them and maybe some scrapes from falling on the ground). I think that beats a gun or baton any day of the week. Then there is mace which some people are virtually unaffected by and keep fighting officers. I think the taser is a great weapon for cops to use. Here is the thing I don't understand....why is it there are people (Verbena Lea) who think the cops being able to intimidate people is bad? That is part of the reason behind cops wearing uniforms (are those bad too?). Another thing...usually the people who get "tased" are resisting or are a threat to the officers. They don't just go around tasing people because they are bored. In other words, they deserve what they get and are lucky the officers have tasers. Otherwise they would be getting the other end of a baton, maced, or shot at. All of which I think leave a longer standing effect on an individual. The truth is, people ARE intimidated by tasers, and sometimes just seeing the taser or the little red dot on the chest is enough to get compliance without even having to fire the taser at all. I don't see a negative side to police carrying tasers.
Kris

Eureka, CA

#4 Jul 19, 2010
by the way, we should be able to edit our comments. How many mistakes can you find in there? lol. injure (not injur) and one of three choices....the list goes on.
Annon

United States

#5 Jul 19, 2010
People need to realize that the taser is a tool for the officers safety. Police officers place themselves in danger every day they go to work. A "routine" traffic stop can end up in an officer being shot and killed in an instant. The idea that an officer has a less than lethal way of immobilizing an unruly suspect without longer side effects, i.e. mace or pepper spray, is necessary. If people want to complain about being tased, maybe they should see what it is like to be subdued by a police baton or mace.

I believe that if people want a real view of how the police work they should sign up to go for a ride-along with a local police agency, you can see first hand ehat officers do every night and you have the opportunity to ask any questions you would like.
Plenty blame

Placerville, CA

#6 Jul 19, 2010
Too many people are so self-centered that all they can think about is what they want. People yammer about their rights, by which they mean that they want to do whatever they want and feel no one has the right to interfere with them. This includes people on drugs who don't have the judgement of a three year old having a tantrum. They demand respect that they don't earn.
Yes- Verbena- that means, since they can't control themselves, they have to be faced with intimidation and threats of punishment. You may wish to make yourself feel important by trying to act out while faced with a police officer but your chances of gaining the respect you demand by yelling out insults and threats are very small. And threatening a man who has weapons is studitity itself.
That said, some police do throw their weight around to make themselves feel better about themselves too. Education to make sure they can seperate the true need for control from the urge to assert themselves for the sake of their own feelings would be good. And they should be unusually careful to respect the law themselves before demanding compliance from the public.
But I will always give the police the benefit of the doubt because we are asking them to do things for us that we are afraid to do ourselves. I would never wish a police officer to come to harm because he was too respectful of those not deserving such respect. They have the risk and, pretty much, their judgement has the primary weight.

fire paul

Foster City, CA

#7 Jul 19, 2010
paul invented the taser, dont tase me bro
dumbpigs

Arcata, CA

#8 Jul 19, 2010
there ya go piggies. hope you don't hit someone with asthma or heart conditions. Go stuff your fat face with a doughnut.
JMehserle

Whitethorn, CA

#9 Jul 19, 2010
Tasers are a cop's best friend! Why should I risk scuffing up my uniform trying to subdue a dirty, homeless bum when I can simply draw my Taser and zap him? It's almost effortless on my part, and so entertaining, too.

Best of all, they can be sometimes used as a Get Out of Jail Free Card; shoot a civilian "wrongfully", just claim you thought you were firing your Taser. Oopsie! Folks need to believe in the sanctity of the police and will ignore the fact that no cop ever mistakes their Taser for their GUN when really threatened. Heck, if that ever happened and just one policeman died, we would all refuse to carry Tasers. Ha-ha!

So, please keep issuing every cop one of these cool,$800.00 each (holster not included) gadgets, picking up the court costs for defending our "mistakes" and funding those huge civil lawsuit award when we get a little carried away. Thanks.
observer

Stockton, CA

#10 Jul 19, 2010
Some, or even many, of the persons that die after being "tazed" would have died anyway. Died from being shot or having a heart attack during a violent struggle with the cops.

I frequently follow articles in the news about the Tazers. Some officers may be quick to use the device but they don't seem to be the primary cause of deaths. It seems to me that many of the people being arrested/tazed are meth users. Meth use causes all kinds of health prolbems, including heart problems. It seems to me that many of the people that died from "tazer deaths" could have died from a prolonged physical altercation with the cops, or being shot because they are out of control.

And Mr. Allen figured it out in the last paragraph. Would you prefer to be tazed or hit several times with a nightstick, baton, nunchucks, or whatever is handly.
Chuck Finley

Santa Rosa, CA

#11 Jul 19, 2010
And this is news because....? This is the best you can come up with? Your agenda is obvious, quit trying to disguise it as 'news'.
cops murder w tasers

Los Altos, CA

#12 Jul 19, 2010
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_15542359...

" 'Get the Taser. Get the Taser,' " Yedo quoted one of the deputies as saying.
Come on now

Eureka, CA

#13 Jul 19, 2010
"Verbana Lea" the same person as Kim Starr, whose pathological hatred for law enforcement colors anything she says. This is the same person who goes home to her comfy residence after a long day of protesting for homeless rights. Hey Kim, how many tents are set up in your yard for your homeless friends? Yeah, I thought so.
Anon

Eureka, CA

#14 Jul 19, 2010
Matt Hawk, are you seriously using Kim Starr to give you "informed" information about police use of taser's? Or for that matter, anything police related. Kim Starr's copwatch website is all you need to look at to see that no matter what the police do, she will be there to complain about it. The name copwatch would imply that they are actually on the streets to be witnesses to police actions. You would think with the hundreds of hours of video they have taken that they would have at least 1 clip of a police officer doing something good. Or, if the police are truly as bad as Kim says, one clip of the Eureka Police Department being abusive or heavy handed. Thats not the case on the site. If you look at the videos that are actually on the site, there isn't a one of them that shows any Eureka Police Officer acting inappropriately. The best that Kim can come up with is showing videos that flash mean names of the Officers as they're standing around.

Mr. Hawk, please do some real research about the subject matter you are writing about and not just use quotes from an uninformed anti police activist.

Oops, Sorry VERBENA, I kept calling you Kim. I forgot that you changed your name so that people might actually listen to your rants. Looks like it actually worked for Mr. Hawk!
MeMe

Santa Cruz, CA

#15 Jul 19, 2010
It's not the Taser Gun per say but it's the user of it, How long they hold the trigger down for and just how many times they deliver 'The Shock' is the key to life or death. If they're really mad or murderous minded then it's , dance mon//key dance for us poor citizens.
lynn

San Francisco, CA

#16 Jul 19, 2010
I think the root of the problem is that the young hothead police officers do not know how to handle situations with the mentally ill, who could be on medications that could lead to a bad outcome with a taser. I recently had a situation with a loved one in a bad mental state and thought long and hard about even calling for assistance due to this. I think officers are to quick to shoot or to tase, education is needed.
anonymous

San Mateo, CA

#17 Jul 19, 2010
Poor Mr Turney. Refused to comply with the law we all follow and then whines when he is arrested. Not a real smart fellow.
snja444

United States

#18 Jul 19, 2010
It's really sad when the editors of the T-S intentionally turn a blind eye to the truth. They they are sinking further into sensationalist reporting; they only want to report "facts" that support their opinions, and they are ordering reporters to find biased sources for stories. They have thrown any and all ethics out the window. Every last staffer there should be ashamed of themselves if they don't tell this Wear lunatic to shut up and get some ethics before she turns the T-S into a monstrosity worse than the Sub ever was.
Matt Hawk? Um, he talks mad sh!te at the bar about the T-S and how stupid they are. He should be fired but with his sleazy style he probably will fit right in.
This story is for people who have never seen a Taser or even heard of one. As for the rest of us, this is a total waste of time and space.
jjones

Arcata, CA

#19 Jul 19, 2010
snja444 wrote:
It's really sad when the editors of the T-S intentionally turn a blind eye to the truth. They they are sinking further into sensationalist reporting; they only want to report "facts" that support their opinions, and they are ordering reporters to find biased sources for stories. They have thrown any and all ethics out the window. Every last staffer there should be ashamed of themselves if they don't tell this Wear lunatic to shut up and get some ethics before she turns the T-S into a monstrosity worse than the Sub ever was.
Matt Hawk? Um, he talks mad sh!te at the bar about the T-S and how stupid they are. He should be fired but with his sleazy style he probably will fit right in.
This story is for people who have never seen a Taser or even heard of one. As for the rest of us, this is a total waste of time and space.
Sounds like the TS is getting lessons from the ArcataLie.. i mean the CommieEye.. oops the ArcatEye
Tommy Karate

Eureka, CA

#20 Jul 19, 2010
Kim Starr.....he he he he..

Greg Allen makes sense for a change. He knows that Tasers are the lesser of two evils when it comes to the use of force. Comply or taste 50,000 volts of justice, dumbassss. Then, after you're handcuffed, get up, walk to the car and go to jail.

Try doing that last part with a bullet in your chest. Or with your body battered and bruised from being a human pinata.

The taser's better. It saves lives.

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