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Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis

There are 8 comments on the IndyMedia story from Feb 16, 2013, titled Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis. In it, IndyMedia reports that:

It is becoming clear that not only do many scientists dispute the asserted global warming crisis, but these skeptical scientists may indeed form a scientific consensus.

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Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#1 Feb 16, 2013
"Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis"

LOL.

A bare faced lie.

This is a survey of "professional experts in petroleum and related industries"- people with a real motivation not to want to believe AGW is a crisis.

If you ask earth scientists, only 20% are sceptical, and among climate scientists, it's about 3%.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#2 Feb 16, 2013
Here is the game they play:

this was also reported in Forbes.
Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority Of Scientists Skeptical Of Global Warming Crisis
Full story: Forbes.com

And what they leave out is:

The survey the author cites isn’t “scientists” as stated in the title of the op-ed, it is a survey of the Association of Professional Engineers, Geologists and Geophysicists of Alberta. That’s like surveying tobacco company CEO’s about the dangers of smoking. It would be a reasonable piece about the opinion of petroleum engineers in Alberta if that was made clear, instead that was hidden. I wonder why

"The study references polled members of the Association of Professional Engineers and Geoscientists of Alberta (APEGA). Membership in APEGA is a prerequisite to a job with an oil, gas, or mining company, and these jobs dominate its online job board. Alberta, home to the tar sands boom, is Canada's most oil-rich province, and the petroleum industry is Alberta's largest employer of engineers and geoscientists."

There is no lies like those of the right wing.
Harry2248

East Sandwich, MA

#4 Feb 16, 2013
And the scientists who want to keep the phony crisis going with no proof also want the grant money to keep coming their way.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#5 Feb 16, 2013
Harry2248 wrote:
And the scientists who want to keep the phony crisis going with no proof also want the grant money to keep coming their way.
For you conspiracy theory to work, you have to

(1) BELIEVE all the top scientists in the world on the topic have no care for the real truth/ or any fear of being caught

(2) IGNORE that they are paid fixed incomes regardless of their findings – and most of them have guaranteed jobs.[Compare this to oil company executives who are paid large bonuses based on being profitable].

(3) WONDER who is paying off all the mainstream science media: Scientific American, Discover, New Scientist, Science, ScienceDaily – who all say global warming is real and a serious threat.

Global warming represents a small % of their total science articles.
Same with all the technical science journals that are peer reviewed.

(4) WONDER who is paying off virtually all the world renown science organizations – many of them who have little or even nothing to do with global warming)

(i) You have the US federal agencies dealing with climate: NASA, NOAA, EPA, NCAR,

Same with the UK and Europe (example Royal Meteorological Society, UK, British Antarctic Survey

* Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society

(ii)But how do you explain all the prestigious GENERAL science organizations (that deal with all areas of science!)

--The National Academy of Sciences (NAS)
--The Royal Society of the United Kingdom
--European Science Foundation
--Chinese Academy of Sciences
--Académie des Sciences, France
--Institute of Biology, UK
--European Physical Society
--African Academy of Sciences
--Australian Academy of Sciences
--Deutsche Akademie der Naturforscher Leopoldina
of Germany
-- Indonesian Academy of Sciences
--Royal Irish Academy
--Accademia nazionale delle scienze of Italy
--Indian National Science Academy
--Science Council of Japan
--Royal Society of New Zealand
--Polish Academy of Sciences
--Russian Academy of Sciences
*l'Académie des Sciences et Techniques
du Sénégal
--Academy of Science of South Africa
--Sudan Academy of Sciences
--Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences
--Tanzania Academy of Sciences
--Turkish Academy of Sciences
--Uganda National Academy of Sciences
--Zambia Academy of Sciences
--American Association for the Advancement of Science
--Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies
(iii) There aren’t many climatologists working at these organizations
--American Astronomical Society
-- American Institute of Physics (AIP)
--American Medical Association (AMA)
--American Chemical Society
--American College of Preventive Medicine
--American Geophysical Union
--American Public Health Association
--American Quaternary Association
--American Academy of Pediatrics
--American Association of Wildlife Veterinarians
--American Institute of Biological Sciences
--American Society of Agronomy
--American Society for Microbiology
--American Society of Plant Biologists
--American Statistical Association
--Association of Ecosystem Research Centers
--Botanical Society of America
--Crop Science Society of America
--Ecological Society of America
--Federation of American Scientists
--Geological Society of America
--National Association of Geoscience Teachers
--Natural Science Collections Alliance
--Organization of Biological Field Stations
--Society of American Foresters
--Society for Industrial and Applied Mathematics
--Society of Systematic Biologists
--Soil Science Society of America
--Australian Medical Association
--Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society
--Engineers Australia
--Geological Society of Australia
--International Association for Great Lakes Research
--International Union for Quaternary Research
--International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics
--World Federation of Public Health Associations
--World Health Organization

... when it is the oil, gas, mining and utility companies have been caught paying millions of dollars into anti-information campaigns.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#6 Feb 16, 2013
Here is Scientific American

<< There is, in fact, a climate conspiracy. It just happens to be one launched by the fossil fuel industry to obscure the truth about climate change and delay any action...

As physicist and climate historian Spencer Weart told The Washington Post: "It's a symptom of something entirely new in the history of science: Aside from crackpots who complain that a conspiracy is suppressing their personal discoveries, we've never before seen a set of people accuse an entire community of scientists of deliberate deception and other professional malfeasance. Even the tobacco companies never tried to slander legitimate cancer researchers." Well, probably they did, but point taken.>>

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.c...
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#7 Feb 17, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
Here is Scientific American
<< There is, in fact, a climate conspiracy. It just happens to be one launched by the fossil fuel industry to obscure the truth about climate change and delay any action...
As physicist and climate historian Spencer Weart told The Washington Post: "It's a symptom of something entirely new in the history of science: Aside from crackpots who complain that a conspiracy is suppressing their personal discoveries, we've never before seen a set of people accuse an entire community of scientists of deliberate deception and other professional malfeasance. Even the tobacco companies never tried to slander legitimate cancer researchers." Well, probably they did, but point taken.>>
http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.c...
Again, no I don’t have a degree in BULL S. only you qualify for that type of degree. So do to your limited mental capacity let me repeat. No I don't have that degree in Bull S. only you could qualify fort that type of degree. You do show all that you are the best and was top of your class. I bet they gave you that Bull S. Medal of Honor.

Since: Jan 13

Fairfax, VA

#8 Feb 17, 2013
PHD wrote:
<quoted text>Again, no I don’t have a degree in BULL S. only you qualify for that type of degree. So do to your limited mental capacity let me repeat. No I don't have that degree in Bull S. only you could qualify fort that type of degree. You do show all that you are the best and was top of your class. I bet they gave you that Bull S. Medal of Honor.
Actually I did graduate #1 in my class in high school.

I also have a REAL graduate degrees.

You however want to lurk around pretending you have a degree,
Then interupt honest conversations when people want to talk about science.

You are a lying fraud.
And I have conservative friends. This has nothing to do with ideology.
PHD

Cibolo, TX

#9 Feb 17, 2013
Wallop10 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually I did graduate #1 in my class in high school.
I also have a REAL graduate degrees.
You however want to lurk around pretending you have a degree,
Then interupt honest conversations when people want to talk about science.
You are a lying fraud.
And I have conservative friends. This has nothing to do with ideology.
You can’t even be original Commander TROLL!!!! See that Bull S. degree again got you walloped and in the crapper. That Ha HA you hear is the void between your ears called an echo.

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