Who still takes global warming seriou...

Who still takes global warming seriously?

There are 30923 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Jan 28, 2010, titled Who still takes global warming seriously?. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

Despite the recent discovery of the e-mails that resulted in "Climate Gate" and the fact this has been one of the coldest and harshest winters in many years, Gov.

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Oh My

Boca Raton, FL

#15183 Sep 6, 2010
con fussing wrote:
<quoted text>There you go again with your car wash trash mouth. That's the trouble with you lower class workers, you haven't much of a vocabulary so the only way you can express yourself is by accusing others of having the sexual experiences with their mothers the way you did. Soon, you start relating the sex you had with your father and then siblings, the family dog, chickens. You are a very sick perv. I suppose you're registered as a sex offender.
And, as usual, you suck being you.
FTR, President Obama has nothing to do with your sexual deviance. That belongs solely to you whether or not he's President.
Are you still enjoying your father cornholing you? Shame.
Wow, you get all this from a nice looooooong weekend at your uncle/dads?

You seem to be more than passing familiar with homosexual activities.... guess those weekends with the men sure left an impression on ya aye boy?

I hear your dad made you use his "Butt snorkel" again LOL.... you must be a pro about now.

All those weekends away... catching trouser trout... you seem kinda broke back mountain-ish to me. LOL... I bet you loved that movie.

Face it fool.... you are undoubtedly one of the dumbest libs to ever post on here.

Example: YOu go to your local Shit hole in the wall pub... you suck dick for beers... not realizing it was free beer night.

OOOps I just gave out your weekly plans.... sorry there cupcake.

And as always, it absoFUCKINlutely sucks being you... a no brained welfare mooch living with his mommy and no job.... you are a lib success story LOL.
Oh My

Boca Raton, FL

#15184 Sep 6, 2010
gcaveman1 wrote:
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"isn't completely biased" What an understatement!
"the most comprehensive website" you've ever seen? You haven't looked around a lot.
BTW, why don't they have their own charts? Most of the ones they have show warming. And when you click on one graph to enlarge it, you get a different graph.
LMFAO you uneducated dolt.... because you can not read and there are no pictures it is not real? LOL.... OOOOOOK

Folks, can anyone find some scientist who likes to demonstrate his proof, written in crayons for our local genius here?
Oh My

Boca Raton, FL

#15185 Sep 6, 2010
swampmudd wrote:
<quoted text>That is right. You are demanding a controlled repeatable experiment on a global basis which of course in not possible.
And this is different from you greenie dolts how?
Oh My

Boca Raton, FL

#15186 Sep 6, 2010
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet we find a National Park Service "Nature Note" from 1937 which says:
"The average recession of the Nisqually Glacier, since 1857, is 44.35 feet per year. However, if one studies the above tabulation it will become apparent that this glacier, since 1918, has retreated much more rapidly than was the case during, any previous period of years since 1857. From 1857 to 1885 the average annual recession was 27.14 feet. From 1885 to 1892 the average annual recession was 20 feet. From 1892 to 1918 the average annual recession was 50.38 feet while since 1918 the average annual recession has been 70.42 feet."
Then there's this from the Stephen C. Porter of the University of Washington:
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Then there's this, from the NPS, which shows how glaciers can appear to be growing because of a normal phenomenen:
On Mount Rainier, elevation surveys of Nisqually Glacier are regularly made to determine changes in the elevation of the surface. Through these surveys "bulges" have been tracked as they travel down the glacier (c). These bulges, called kinematic waves, form when higher than normal snowfall builds up in the accumulation area of the glacier (c). As the bulge grows, it begins to move down the slope, faster than the glacier ice itself. When it reaches the bottom of the glacier, the terminus advances drammatically. A time delay exists between changes in snowfall, and the glacier advance because of the time required for the kinematic wave to move down glacier. Understanding kinematic waves is an important process to consider when assessing glacier response to climate change.
I think this shows everyone the egg on your face and the foot in your mouth, after calling others morons, you can't seem to do simple fact-checking. But that's about all we could expect from someone whose main accomplishment in life is the perfection of the false accusation.
Comeback?
YAWN!!! to easy.
“I think that there’s three possibilities that we’re headed for,” Easterbrook said.“One is cooling similar to 1945-1977 – about a half degree. Not really all that bad. Perhaps something similar to the cold period of 1880-1915, to perhaps the Dalton Minimum, which would be even colder."
http://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2010...

The bitter winter afflicting much of the Northern Hemisphere is only the start of a global trend towards cooler weather that is likely to last for 20 or 30 years, say some of the world’s most eminent climate scientists.

Their predictions – based on an analysis of natural cycles in water temperatures in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans – challenge some of the global warming orthodoxy’s most deeply cherished beliefs, such as the claim that the North Pole will be free of ice in
summer by 2013.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/articl...

. the 1940-1975 time period experienced anthropogenic global cooling. This cooling was from the same root cause as volcanic cooling, namely aerosols (mostly sulfate aerosols) in the atmosphere. Whereas volcanic eruptions are natural, and often inject aerosols into the stratosphere (the upper layer of earth's atmosphere), aerosols from industrial activity are man-made and almost entirely in the troposphere (the lower layer of earth's atmosphere, where most of our weather takes place).
http://scienceblogs.com/classm/2010/08/explai...

To easy.
Oh My

Boca Raton, FL

#15187 Sep 6, 2010
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Earth is in a cooling period, didn't ya know? It's right there on the website meme got from earthling. The one showing all the warming on the accompanying charts while espousing the cooling "evidence" in print.
Hey dolt, you have pictures and your still bitch?

Obviously your religious fervor will not be overcome by facts.

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#15188 Sep 6, 2010
albedodown wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's hear more from Prof. Harold Shapiro.......
'There are people out there..... who think the whole process ought to be abandoned..... the whole thing was set up to demonstrate that humans were causing global warming, and guess what, they went out and found that humans were causing global warming. But it was our judgment that that wasn’t the case.'
Questioned by Michael D. Lemonick.....
ML: If your panel concluded generally that the IPCC’s procedure is reasonable,..... doesn’t that implicitly suggest that the science is sound?
HS answering: Yes, I think that’s fair......it was convincing enough — this organization is not a fraud, this organization wasn’t perpetuating some sort of criminal act on us all — in fact, it’s extraordinary the number of scientists who participated. I KNOW OF NO OTHER COMPARABLE SITUATION.
In other words,'mememine69' being 'me me me getting mine in the 69 position'.
I usually don’t explain my denial of climate change with the believer’s bread and butter: IT’S NOT WHAT IS BEING SAID, IT’S WHO IS SAYING IT, but in this case, I will.

“A consortium of national scientific academies has scolded the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change for down-playing uncertainties about global warming, failing to point out when its claims of catastrophe were based on weak evidence and misrepresenting some findings as peer-reviewed by scientists, when they weren’t.
The findings of the InterAcademy Council investigation also criticized IPCC management, recommending the organization adopt a conflict-of-interest policy. IPCC Chairman Rajendra Pachauri has advised energy and financial companies potentially affected by policies stemming from IPCC findings. He says proceeds go to an energy think tank he heads and to charity.
The criticisms outlined this week by Princeton University professor Harold Shapiro, who chaired the investigation, essentially told the IPCC to stop lobbying governments to combat global warming and restrict its role to explaining science.
We have voiced similar complaints for years with IPCC reports, the fifth of which is due in 2014. Each successive report ratcheted up catastrophic predictions even as temperatures stopped increasing, despite soaring greenhouse gas emissions that the IPCC claims overheat the planet.”
Oh My

Boca Raton, FL

#15189 Sep 6, 2010
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You fugging idiot.
The temperature is going up. All the credible scientific organizations in the world say so.
CO2 is increasing. It has the chemical fingerprint of coal and oil.
Add two and two, fool. Your experiment in change is going on. The mitigation would be stopping our past practices.
Hold the phone dolt... a few posts back you said that it was impossible to prove Man Made GlowBULL warming... and all this time you had FINGER PRINTS? Shocking.

Call the FBI,,, the CIA... Call NOAA, call pizza hut... cavey has atmospheric finger prints... I am so shocked by this.

These are not part of your religious indoctrination are they?

Only those of the "Faith" can see them I bet.
Oh My

Boca Raton, FL

#15190 Sep 6, 2010
gcaveman1 wrote:
If meme69 can do it why can't I?
I'll go back and dig up past posts the resident idiots have read and the ignorant neebies have not. We only have near 15000 posts proving their ignorance; what's a few hundred more?
You guys that know me may just have to bear with me.
Psst: Hey dolt, everyone who knows you and does not strangle you is bearing with you.
Oh My

Boca Raton, FL

#15191 Sep 6, 2010
LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
<quoted text>
The IAC review was INVITED by the IPCC and it is pure rhetoric to say it 'scolded' anyone. It had some recommendations and saw room for improvement which was what the IPCC asked it to find.
So the IPCC ASKED to be outed for being liars did they? LOL... suuuuure you run with that pookie.
Oh My

Boca Raton, FL

#15192 Sep 6, 2010
Cousin Jethro wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, you are right, perhaps BGreen is a "stupid, insipid or unconscious liar," i.e., one who lies without knowing it -- something like our ordinary Tea Party Republicans and Sarah Palin
LMFAo a lib dolt calling republicans liars?

Guess we should not talk about oblah blah aye moron?

* During his campaign for the presidency and since, Obama repeatedly assured us that he would protect Medicare against cuts; but he now presses for passage of bills that include savage cuts in Medicare.

* To obtain passage of his first stimulus bill, Obama assured us that 90% of the jobs created would be in the private sector; but as he well knew, most of them were to be in the public sector.

* Early in the health care debate, Obama assured us that he had not said that he favored a single payer system; but he was on record as having said exactly that.

* Obama gave primary voters a firm assurance that if he became the nominee of the Democratic party he would (unlike Hillary Clinton) abide by the campaign finance limits of public funding; but as soon as he became the party’s nominee, he reneged on that pledge.

* During the presidential campaign Obama criticized the presence of former lobbyists in the Bush administration and solemnly assured us that he would appoint no lobbyists to his administration; but once elected he proceeded to appoint even more lobbyists than his predecessors.

* Obama criticized the size of George Bush’s deficit and promised to stop deficit spending if elected; but he has already quadrupled the size of the deficit he objected to and recklessly continues new federal spending in the trillions.

* When campaigning Obama criticized bills before the congress that were too long for anyone to be able to read and promised to stop that; but the bills he has been backing throughout his first year are infinitely longer (2000+ pages) than the ones he criticized.

* Candidate Obama promised an end to the corruption of earmarks and pork, but in the bills he has supported this year there have been more and bigger earmarks than ever before.

* Candidate Obama promised us that CIA personnel involved in the interrogation of terrorists would not be prosecuted; but his administration is now doing exactly that.

* Obama assured a joint session of Congress that the health bill he supported (pre-Stupak) would not provide public funding for abortions; but bitter resistance on the part of House Democrats to inclusion of language to that effect soon proved that it did.

* Candidate Obama promised that he would make sure that there was always enough time for the public to read legislation before it was enacted; but he has done exactly the opposite, repeatedly pressing for even faster passage of even longer bills.

* Candidate Obama met fears that he would be a tax and spend liberal by promising, emphatically and repeatedly, that those earning under $200,000 would see no increase in their taxes of any kind; but he now urges passage of a healthcare bill that breaks that pledge in many different ways, and his unrestrained increase in federal spending makes more tax increases inevitable.

* Candidate Obama promised bipartisanship and an end to partisan bickering; but in a display of especially ruthless partisanship his allies have shut Republicans out of all key meetings on his health care initiative, with the unprecedented result that domestic legislation of historic importance garnered not a single Republican vote in the Senate.

* Candidate Obama criticized his opponent’s plan to tax employer paid healthcare benefits, and promised he would not tax them; but the bill he now backs will do just that.

* Obama had promised that he would not sign a healthcare bill that would add one dime to the federal deficit; but the bill he now backs adds trillions in new federal spending, offset only by new sources of revenue that are both uncertain and more properly seen as offsetting the already existing deficit.
Cousin Jethro

Summerfield, FL

#15193 Sep 6, 2010
You guys still haven't gotten over your faux pas:

http://costofwar.com/

oh, well, despite your monomaniacal delusions there is hope:

http://www.ipcc.ch/

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#15194 Sep 6, 2010
You fading climate changers are clinging like car accident rubber-neckers to this dead CO2 theory. The public sees you wishing and hoping for climate misery via the “the scientists have consensus” mantra. That simply is not true but if you just demonize the opposing view of denier scientists, you stay happy and comfortable in your safe and unchallenging mentality of Greenzi obedience.
Earthling

Valencia, Spain

#15195 Sep 6, 2010
Cousin Jethro wrote:
Yes, you are right
Nothing new, I'm nearly always right.
Cousin Jethro wrote:
perhaps BGreen is a "stupid, insipid or unconscious liar," i.e., one who lies without knowing it
It's impossible lie without knowing it, think about it.
Cousin Jethro wrote:
-- something like our ordinary Tea Party Republicans and Sarah Palin
I have no wish to know anything about tea parties or Sarah P, I live on the other side of a pond that thankfully keeps most of our customs and politics separated.
Earthling

Valencia, Spain

#15196 Sep 6, 2010
Correction:
It's impossible TO lie without knowing it, think about it.
Cousin Jethro

Summerfield, FL

#15197 Sep 6, 2010
mememine69 wrote:
You fading climate changers are clinging like car accident rubber-neckers to this dead CO2 theory. The public sees you wishing and hoping for climate misery via the “the scientists have consensus” mantra. That simply is not true but if you just demonize the opposing view of denier scientists, you stay happy and comfortable in your safe and unchallenging mentality of Greenzi obedience.
"denier scientist"? is that kind of like "military intelligence" or "smart Tea Party Republican"? What a hoot!
Cousin Jethro

Summerfield, FL

#15198 Sep 6, 2010
Earthling wrote:
<quoted text>Nothing new, I'm nearly always right.<quoted text>It's impossible lie without knowing it, think about it.<quoted text>I have no wish to know anything about tea parties or Sarah P, I live on the other side of a pond that thankfully keeps most of our customs and politics separated.
Perhaps you've a bit of solipsism going along with your egomania...

You'll find lots of things lying in lots of ways, with and without knowledge

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lie

You are lucky to be far from the present incarnation of the American "tea party" -- I prefer the one in Alice in Wonderland, myself

“Fear is the Mind-Killer”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#15199 Sep 6, 2010
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Careful. Liberalism is the gateway drug to socialism.
Not at all, quite the opposite. They are completely incompatible, although to gain more support, socialists will often claim to be liberals, which is a outright lie.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#15200 Sep 6, 2010
Cousin Jethro wrote:
Perhaps you've a bit of solipsism going along with your egomania...
You'll find lots of things lying in lots of ways, with and without knowledge
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/lie
You are lucky to be far from the present incarnation of the American "tea party" -- I prefer the one in Alice in Wonderland, myself
He who smelt it, dealt it.

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#15201 Sep 6, 2010
Cousin Jethro wrote:
<quoted text>
"denier scientist"? is that kind of like "military intelligence" or "smart Tea Party Republican"? What a hoot!
Denier Scientists you say Doomer?Professor Ross McKintrick says no one should be surprised that such mistakes end up in these massive reports.“The IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) doesn’t have the internal rigor that one would expect of it,” said McKintrick from his office at the University of Guelph.“Nothing is in the process to prevent activist rhetoric from appearing.” McKintrick, who teaches environmental economics and has had his own battles with the accuracy of climate change reports, says the calculations used in the UN reports are often not checked for accuracy and even the much-vaunted peer-review process does not guarantee that the information used is correct. Claude Allegre, Ph.D. A member of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences and French Academy of Science, Allegre was among the first scientists to sound the alarm on potential dangers from global warming. His view now: "The cause of this climate change is unknown." Richard Lindzen, Ph.D. A professor of meteorology at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a member of the National Research Council Board on Atmospheric Sciences and Climate, Lindzen says global warming alarmists "are trumpeting catastrophes that couldn't happen even if the models were right." Habibullo Abdussamatov, Ph.D. Head of the space research laboratory of the Russian Academy of Science's Pulkova Observatory and head of the International Space Station's Astrometria Project, Abdussamatov reports, "the common view that man's industrial activity is a deciding factor in global warming has emerged from misinterpretation of cause and effect relations." Richard Toi, Ph.D. Principal researcher at the Institute for Environmental Studies at Vrije Universiteit and adjunct professor at the Carnegie Mellon University Center for Integrated Study of the Human Dimensions of Global Change, Toi calls the IPCC reports "preposterous ... alarmist and incompetent." Sami Solanki, Ph.D. Director and scientific member at the Max Planck Institute for Solar System Research in Germany, Solanki argues changes in the sun's state, not human activity, may be the principal cause of global warming. Says Solanki, "The sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and may now be affecting global temperatures." Freeman Dyson, Ph.D. A professor at Princeton University and one of the most eminent physicists in the world, Dyson reports the models used to justify global warming are "full of fudge factors" and "do not begin to describe the real world." Eigil Friis-Christensen, Ph.D. Director of the Danish National Space Center and vice president of the International Association of Geomagnetism and Aeronomy, Friis-Christensen argues changes in the sun's behavior could very well account for most of the warming during the past century.
What do any of you know about the CO2 theory besides "scientists" are in full consensus?
Do you know how old the theory has been making predictions and 100% wrong predictions at that?
Do you know that the IPCC says they are 90% sure and still call it science?
Did you know that 100% of the theory is based on simple correlation?
Did you know that the IPCC uses "precaution" as science?
Do you believe the IPCC when they say the planet has never ever had this kind of climate before, the same climate you and I are experiencing now?
Can you explain why there are thousands of more consensus scientists than protestors?
Did you know that the UN has allowed carbon trading to trump 3rd world fresh water relief, starvation rescue and 3rd world education?
Cousin Jethro

Summerfield, FL

#15202 Sep 6, 2010
Because:

http://knowledge.allianz.com/en/globalissues/...

In other words, with unchecked global warming there would be no need for a UN, much less suffering third world mentalities such as your own

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