Claws come out as PETA goes after anonymous online commenters for shelter kill claims

May 24, 2013 Full story: New York Post 25

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, famous for its nearly-nude protests, like these guys and gals outside the Spanish Embassy in 2006, are going after online commenters who accused the group of killing animals in a Virginia shelter.

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mojo karma cookie

Los Altos, CA

#1 May 24, 2013
oh my sweet lord. that can't be right.

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#2 May 25, 2013
I heard that it is true. Peta is a bunch of hypocrites who do not understand human and/or animal behavior imo. Hopefully they lose tons of resources on this wild goose chase.
mojo karma cookie

Los Altos, CA

#3 May 25, 2013
unsung blockhead wrote:
Hopefully that is true. Peta is who do not understand human animal behavior animal behavior and human animal behavior imo. Hopefully they lose tons on they lose tons of resources who do not understand/or animal behavior imo. Hopefully that it is who do not understand/or and human animal behavior imo. Hopefully that it is true. I heard that is a bunch of resources on that is wild goose tons on that is who do not understand human and/or imo. Hopefully they lose chase. I heard that it is true. Peta is the greatest.
one-dimensional, paper-thin, uncourageous, mass media anti-PETA propaganda.

the truth can be found here.

http://tinyurl.com/8snamga

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#4 May 26, 2013
mojo karma cookie wrote:
<quoted text>
one-dimensional, paper-thin, uncourageous, mass media anti-PETA propaganda.
the truth can be found here.
http://tinyurl.com/8snamga
I don't follow links posted by nutjobs. Besides, there is no "truth" to the peta movement. It is an appeal to emotion and the principles of peta are not based in logic or science.
STINKCAT

UK

#5 May 26, 2013
According to records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture records show PETA euthanized 89.4 percent of pets within its care. Not good PR from a organization that has piles of cash.
mojo karma cookie

Los Altos, CA

#6 May 26, 2013
unsung blockhead wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't follow links posted by nutjobs. Besides, there is no "truth" to the peta movement. It is an appeal to emotion and the principles of peta are not based in logic or science.
wrong. you seem to be streamlining your ridiculous and bankrupt assertions on one statistic, that is that the PETA shelter has a kill rate of 89%.

1) According to published records from the Virginia Department for Agriculture and Consumer Services,the organization euthanized 1,675 of the 1,877 animals in its care in 2012, including 602 dogs and 1,045 cats. In the last 11 years, PETA has euthanized 29,426 dogs, cats, rabbits and other domestic animals.

2) approximately 6-8 million dogs and cats end up in shelters across the isa. most are euthanized. estimates range from a low of 50-60% to over 80%.

3) Approximately 5 million to 7 million companion animals enter animal shelters nationwide every year, and approximately 3 million to 4 million are euthanized (60 percent of dogs and 70 percent of cats). Shelter intakes are about evenly divided between those animals relinquished by owners and those picked up by animal control. These are national estimates; the percentage of euthanasia may vary from state to state.

source: http://www.aspca.org/about-us/faq/pet-statist...

doesn't surprise me at all unsung blockhead, your mediocre hatespeech and spuriously ridiculous comments are at best considered lopsided and irrational pc drivel and short-sighted, watered-down propaganda. your dull, meandering, thick and unobjective speciesist doublethink has gotten the better of you. so the solution is simple.

educate yourself.

do some basic research.

reject violence in all its forms.

seek compassion.

go vegan.

do it today.
STINKCAT

UK

#7 May 26, 2013
mojo karma cookie wrote:
<quoted text>wrong. you seem to be streamlining your ridiculous and bankrupt assertions on one statistic, that is that the PETA shelter has a kill rate of 89%.
1) According to published records from the Virginia Department for Agriculture and Consumer Services,the organization euthanized 1,675 of the 1,877 animals in its care in 2012, including 602 dogs and 1,045 cats. In the last 11 years, PETA has euthanized 29,426 dogs, cats, rabbits and other domestic animals.
Lets get this right, you're saying Peta euthanized 1,675 animals out of 1,877 animals and that's good, I'm saying euthanasia is the cheap option Peta should spend some of its millions in cash on re-homing animals in its care. Seems logical to assume with Peta's large budget for advertising Peta should have better re-homing statistics than that of impoverished shelters.

However I realize its customary for Peta advocates to become confused and irrational when presented with Petas disgusting kill statistics.
mojo karma cookie

Los Altos, CA

#8 May 27, 2013
stankcat wrote:
<quoted text>
Lets get this right, you're saying Peta euthanized 1,675 animals out of 1,877 animals and that's good, I'm saying euthanasia is the cheap option Peta should spend some of its millions in cash on re-homing animals in its care. Seems logical to assume with Peta's large budget for advertising Peta should have better re-homing statistics than that of impoverished shelters.
wrong stankcat. you missed the obvious interpretation for these statistics. in america 60-80 million cats and dogs end up at shelters. about 20% of the dogs and about 2% of the cats are adopted out or re-united with their owners. the rest are euthanised. the euthanasia rate for these shelters are similarly high, as high as 85% by some estimates. the other side of the equation is that no-kill shelters are a sham, there have been several cases where animals are treated very poorly, and are doomed to life-long of suffering and being housed in a small cage. many shelters admit to having a +90% euthanasia rate.

"The reality of private shelters

Many private shelters do a great job of placing animals. However, they often kill (or refuse) animals that are hard to find homes for. This includes animals that have chronic but treatable medical conditions (such as diabetes), have disabilities that are not life-threatening (missing a leg or an eye), or are believed to be undesirable (older pets, shy pets). Additionally, many private shelters still keep their animals in cages that are not designed for the long-term care of animals that may never find a home.

The reality of municipal shelters

While some municipal shelters do a good job of reuniting animals with their owners and even finding homes for their strays, most do a poor job in this area. Granted, many municipal shelters aren’t mandated to do much more than reunite or kill, but even here many shelters fail to meet minimum standards.

Why is this happening? Because municipal shelters are generally under the administration of a large department, they tend to get the short end of both funding and staffing. After all, a shelter administered by the streets and sanitation department may come under the purview of a department head who knows a lot about road maintenance but not much about caring for animals.

Additionally, these shelters may be staffed by friends and relatives of political appointees. Such people may have no background in the care of animals and no sense of duty to the animals. In fact, many of these shelters see the work involved in sheltering animals as a nuisance to be minimized through killing as many animals as possible as quickly as possible. On his Web site Winograd cites numerous shelters where animals are killed because of a supposed “lack of space” when, in fact, all the cages are empty. Of course, it takes a lot more work to maintain cages full of animals than to keep them empty..."

source : http://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/...

please stop misrepresenting PETAs position on their animal shelter, how the animals are treated and the animals that they do try to help and save. that is a very uncompassioate, unhumane and uncourageous thing to do.

http://www.peta.org/features/turned-away-a-cl...
mojo karma cookie

Los Altos, CA

#9 May 27, 2013
...you missed the obvious interpretation for these statistics. in america 6-8 million cats and dogs end up at shelters. about 20% of the dogs and about 2% of the cats are adopted out or re-united with their owners. the rest are euthanised. the euthanasia rate for these shelters are similarly high, as high as 85% by some estimates. the other side of the equation is that no-kill shelters are a sham, there have been several cases where animals are treated very poorly, and are doomed to life-long of suffering and being housed in a small cage. many shelters admit to having a +90% euthanasia rate.

http://socialcompassioninlegislation.org/pdf/...

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#10 May 28, 2013
Cats/dogs are supposed to overproduce and the excess is destined to die. That is natural and "good" as it promotes the survival of the species. Why do people get their panties in a wad over this simple and basic means of survival.
mojo karma cookie

San Jose, CA

#11 May 28, 2013
unsung blockhead wrote:
Cats/dogs are supposed to overproduce and the excess is destined to die. That is natural and "good" as it promotes the survival of the species. Why do people get their panties in a wad over this simple and basic means of survival.
whoa. you have lost your mind unsung blockhead. that is not a credible statement, that is not even close to the truth. i can see that you're not a connect the dots kind of person.

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Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#12 May 28, 2013
YOU'LL NEVER GET THE TRUTH FROM PETA.....and all the negative ratings on this site will not change the truth about these hypocrites......still sayin'......

“The REAL Founding Fathers!!!!!”

Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#13 May 28, 2013
*note*

PETA knows who has made these claims....If they had a case, they would have brought it by now as the first site I am posting has been up and online for YEARS....

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

WARNING!!!!!!....This second link contains images that are shocking and disturbing:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-j-winogr...

People who are truly interested in the humane treatment of animals should look for no kill shelters and organisations to support.....PETA IS NOT IT......still sayin'.....

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Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#14 May 28, 2013
as I said, your ratings DO NOT CHANGE THE TRUTH.....looooooooooooool.... .

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Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#15 May 28, 2013
STINKCAT wrote:
According to records from the Virginia Department of Agriculture records show PETA euthanized 89.4 percent of pets within its care. Not good PR from a organization that has piles of cash.
Stincat ol' pal, when you're right, you're right and YOU'RE RIGHT on this one. The online posts may be anonymous but according to public record they're true.

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Since: Jun 08

Oakland

#16 May 28, 2013
hmmmmmmmm.....what a difference a few hours make, eh?.....I guess the research proved my point.....PETA is not what they are cracked up to be.....still sayin'......
Idiotstick

Philadelphia, PA

#17 May 28, 2013
mojo karma cookie wrote:
<quoted text>wrong. you seem to be streamlining your ridiculous and bankrupt assertions on one statistic, that is that the PETA shelter has a kill rate of 89%.
1) According to published records from the Virginia Department for Agriculture and Consumer Services,the organization euthanized 1,675 of the 1,877 animals in its care in 2012, including 602 dogs and 1,045 cats. In the last 11 years, PETA has euthanized 29,426 dogs, cats, rabbits and other domestic animals.
2) approximately 6-8 million dogs and cats end up in shelters across the isa. most are euthanized. estimates range from a low of 50-60% to over 80%.
3) Approximately 5 million to 7 million companion animals enter animal shelters nationwide every year, and approximately 3 million to 4 million are euthanized (60 percent of dogs and 70 percent of cats). Shelter intakes are about evenly divided between those animals relinquished by owners and those picked up by animal control. These are national estimates; the percentage of euthanasia may vary from state to state.
source: http://www.aspca.org/about-us/faq/pet-statist...
doesn't surprise me at all unsung blockhead, your mediocre hatespeech and spuriously ridiculous comments are at best considered lopsided and irrational pc drivel and short-sighted, watered-down propaganda. your dull, meandering, thick and unobjective speciesist doublethink has gotten the better of you. so the solution is simple.
educate yourself.
do some basic research.
reject violence in all its forms.
seek compassion.
go vegan.
do it today.
You must lap up peta's propaganda
mojo karma cookie

San Jose, CA

#18 May 28, 2013
no actually the truth is much worse than that. i am functionally literate, i have two years of college and am capable of independent thought. imagine that!

your absurd and bogus misrepresentations of the facts surrounding animal euthanasia, and how animals are actually treated and mistreated in public and private shelter, are uncourageous and cruel. if you would have followed just one of the links i have posted you would have realized that you get more or less the same statistics that PETA has posted, according to law. no the fact is PETA runs an animal shelter with honesty, conviction and responsible behavior. something you would rather not have to face in the realworld, something that you would never understand.
Ralph

Bloomingdale, IN

#19 May 28, 2013
mojo karma cookie wrote:
<quoted text>wrong. you seem to be streamlining your ridiculous and bankrupt assertions on one statistic, that is that the PETA shelter has a kill rate of 89%.
1) According to published records from the Virginia Department for Agriculture and Consumer Services,the organization euthanized 1,675 of the 1,877 animals in its care in 2012, including 602 dogs and 1,045 cats. In the last 11 years, PETA has euthanized 29,426 dogs, cats, rabbits and other domestic animals.
2) approximately 6-8 million dogs and cats end up in shelters across the isa. most are euthanized. estimates range from a low of 50-60% to over 80%.
3) Approximately 5 million to 7 million companion animals enter animal shelters nationwide every year, and approximately 3 million to 4 million are euthanized (60 percent of dogs and 70 percent of cats). Shelter intakes are about evenly divided between those animals relinquished by owners and those picked up by animal control. These are national estimates; the percentage of euthanasia may vary from state to state.
source: http://www.aspca.org/about-us/faq/pet-statist...
doesn't surprise me at all unsung blockhead, your mediocre hatespeech and spuriously ridiculous comments are at best considered lopsided and irrational pc drivel and short-sighted, watered-down propaganda. your dull, meandering, thick and unobjective speciesist doublethink has gotten the better of you. so the solution is simple.
educate yourself.
do some basic research.
reject violence in all its forms.
seek compassion.
go vegan.
do it today.
Vegan beef, yum.
Joe USA

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#20 May 28, 2013
mojo karma crap wrote:
no actually the truth is much worse than that. i am functionally literate, i have two years of college and am capable of independent thought. imagine that!
your absurd and bogus misrepresentations of the facts surrounding animal euthanasia, and how animals are actually treated and mistreated in public and private shelter, are uncourageous and cruel. if you would have followed just one of the links i have posted you would have realized that you get more or less the same statistics that PETA has posted, according to law. no the fact is PETA runs an animal shelter with honesty, conviction and responsible behavior. something you would rather not have to face in the realworld, something that you would never understand.
More cheezy opinion and ar propaganda from an impotent ar troll.

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