ACLU Sues Over Detained Immigrant Kids

ACLU Sues Over Detained Immigrant Kids

There are 26 comments on the Newsday story from Mar 6, 2007, titled ACLU Sues Over Detained Immigrant Kids. In it, Newsday reports that:

Civil liberties and immigration advocates sued federal officials Tuesday on behalf of children confined to a former Texas prison-turned-center for immigrant families awaiting possible deportation.

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BurningAtlanta

Lawrenceville, GA

#1 Mar 6, 2007
Simple solution: Don't Come without permission, you jerks.

"Subpar schooling?" Subpar to what? The cesspool you left?

Here's how to handle it: "Gee, we're really sorry if you don't approve of the accomidations. Here's you're free ticket to fly you back to whatever dump you came from."
BurningAtlanta

Lawrenceville, GA

#2 Mar 6, 2007
Should be "...your free ticket...." So I don't proofread, sue me.
Double Standard

Boxborough, MA

#3 Mar 6, 2007
We got what you mean Burning Atlanta, and I agree. Substandard...ahahhah....you broke the law, what do you want a Four Seasons. Go home to your country, let them educate you. The ACLU is a horrible and dangerous group who are anti-American.

“I am the great an powerful Ny!”

Since: Dec 06

Lebanon, PA

#4 Mar 6, 2007
They're refugees seeking asylum in the US. None of them have broken any laws. This is how we should be treating these people? We should stick children into a former prison and treat them like they're not human just because they are trying to get out of the crap country they are fleeing? The three posts above mine show no compassion for people just trying to get a better life. You have no concept as to what this country stands for and in my opinion don't deserve to live her. All of our ancestors were once immigrants and I'm sure your's would be appalled at the remarks you just made. GFY
TOB515

Cranston, RI

#5 Mar 6, 2007
llDayo wrote:
They're refugees seeking asylum in the US. None of them have broken any laws. This is how we should be treating these people? We should stick children into a former prison and treat them like they're not human just because they are trying to get out of the crap country they are fleeing? The three posts above mine show no compassion for people just trying to get a better life. You have no concept as to what this country stands for and in my opinion don't deserve to live her. All of our ancestors were once immigrants and I'm sure your's would be appalled at the remarks you just made. GFY
"They're refugees seeking asylum in the US. None of them have broken any laws."

BS

"This is how we should be treating these people?"

Yes

"We should stick children into a former prison and treat them like they're not human just because they are trying to get out of the crap country they are fleeing?"

No, we should deport them. There's a process to follow to obtain political asylum, and they probably would not qualify.

Any other questions?
TOB515

Cranston, RI

#6 Mar 6, 2007
BurningAtlanta wrote:
Simple solution: Don't Come without permission, you jerks.
"Subpar schooling?" Subpar to what? The cesspool you left?
Here's how to handle it: "Gee, we're really sorry if you don't approve of the accomidations. Here's you're free ticket to fly you back to whatever dump you came from."
You spelled accomodations wrong too...sorry, couldn't resist.
BurningAtlanta

Lawrenceville, GA

#7 Mar 6, 2007
Damn, the spelling Nazis caught me, again.

As for the whiners, "Cry me a river." If you want warm and fuzzy, get a puppy. If you want sympathy and understanding, get on Oprah and see Doctor Phil. If these people didn't have such a dismal record of showing up for court they wouldn't be held. They'd be released on a promise to appear or small bond.
Military Man

United States

#8 Mar 6, 2007
Don't you just love the American communist liberties union? A law breakers best friend.

“I am the great an powerful Ny!”

Since: Dec 06

Lebanon, PA

#9 Mar 7, 2007
TOB515 wrote:
BS
It helps if you read the article.
TOB515 wrote:
Yes
Uh huh. Putting kids in a prison-like confinement is a great way to treat them? I certainly hope you don't have kids and if you do, they should be taken away.
TOB515 wrote:
No, we should deport them. There's a process to follow to obtain political asylum, and they probably would not qualify.
Any other questions?
If you had actually read the article you would see that this is a place where these families are being held while they go through the process of seeking asylum or immigrating. If they qualify, they leave and begin their new life in this country. If they don't, they're deported.
Any other ignorant answers?

“I am the great an powerful Ny!”

Since: Dec 06

Lebanon, PA

#10 Mar 7, 2007
BurningAtlanta wrote:
If these people didn't have such a dismal record of showing up for court they wouldn't be held. They'd be released on a promise to appear or small bond.
This facility is used to prevent that. Jeez, did ANY of you read the article?
Double Standard

Boxborough, MA

#11 Mar 7, 2007
We need no longer be the country saying, send us your poor and weak, we were, WERE, that country. Yes when my family came here, the country had room, and a need for immigrants. That is no longer the case. Our country is too preoccupied with being a charity case for those in need in other countries, while our own citizens often suffer. Sorry, but if you live in another country and want to start a life here, do it the legal way. Furthermore, if you don't have anything to offer the country, except being a drain on the economy, don't come at all.

“I am the great an powerful Ny!”

Since: Dec 06

Lebanon, PA

#12 Mar 7, 2007
Wow, we actually agree on a lot of your post!
Double Standard wrote:
We need no longer be the country saying, send us your poor and weak, we were, WERE, that country.
This I disagree with. As a country that freely expresses our ideas on freedom we should welcome anyone who agrees with that ideal.
Double Standard wrote:
Yes when my family came here, the country had room, and a need for immigrants. That is no longer the case.
It's a large country, there's still plenty of room. What happens, though, is that they head towards larger cities where jobs are more in abundance.
Double Standard wrote:
Our country is too preoccupied with being a charity case for those in need in other countries, while our own citizens often suffer. Sorry, but if you live in another country and want to start a life here, do it the legal way. Furthermore, if you don't have anything to offer the country, except being a drain on the economy, don't come at all.
Completely agree. We should focus on helping our own citizens out before those in other countries. Some of the celebrities wanting to adopt babies outside of the U.S. should take note *coughBrangelinacough*.
Double Standard

Boxborough, MA

#13 Mar 7, 2007
I agree they tend to congrigate in cities, and by they I obviously mean the illegals. However, sad as it may be, they do not do so only because of the jobs, but becuase our cities are set up to accomodate them. Be it through signs written in their native language, or a welfare system that is easy to cheat, there are many reasons to move to overcrowded cities. Simply put, they are often, a drain, and one that our country can no longer afford to ignore. If a "loitering bill" is a step in the right direction, then so be it.
Double Standard

Boxborough, MA

#14 Mar 7, 2007
And I could'nt agree with you more on brangelina and madonna, they are pathetic. Truly just trying to set a trend. Adopting children is not a trend, it should be a wonderful and caring desicion to help a child in need, not gain media attention. scum.
Double Standard

Boxborough, MA

#15 Mar 7, 2007
Or detaining them to send them home....loitering is from another thread,.....sorry.
TOB515

Cranston, RI

#16 Mar 7, 2007
llDayo wrote:
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It helps if you read the article.
<quoted text>
Uh huh. Putting kids in a prison-like confinement is a great way to treat them? I certainly hope you don't have kids and if you do, they should be taken away.
<quoted text>
If you had actually read the article you would see that this is a place where these families are being held while they go through the process of seeking asylum or immigrating. If they qualify, they leave and begin their new life in this country. If they don't, they're deported.
Any other ignorant answers?
I read the article, gives no real information. Based on the fact that they are in Texas, and Newsday's open border, left leaning attitude on illegal immigration (hence they're broad use of the word "asylum"), I assume that these individuals ran across the border from Mexico only to attempt to disappear into the U.S.(illegally) and further burden tax paying citizens. I assume the real problem for them is they were caught before reaching L.A., NYC, L.I., etc., etc. If they hadn't been caught by Border Patrol, I'm sure they would have gone through the proper channels to seek citizenship and/or asylum, right? Ignorant? No. Cynical? Maybe.
Gary

Jackson, MI

#17 Mar 12, 2007
Some of you are quite uninformed. Most of the residents in this facility were easily picked up by ICE because they were seeking asylum and they were regularly reporting to INS. They had come to the US under a visa that has since expired. That is, they do not represent flight risk and they were not hiding in a corner.

While you can blame their parents all you like, kids don't usually make a decision to "Come without permission, you jerks." (Since they did come here with permission to start with).

I am always stunned that people are so perverted and sick in their thinking that they find joy in beating up on kids. Maybe a public flogging of an infant would release your anger?
Woodstock

Columbia, SC

#18 Mar 12, 2007
If the parents of the children are illegal, although the children may have been born in the USA, children belong with their parents. Deport them.
readjust

Cranston, RI

#19 Mar 12, 2007
Gary wrote:
Some of you are quite uninformed. Most of the residents in this facility were easily picked up by ICE because they were seeking asylum and they were regularly reporting to INS. They had come to the US under a visa that has since expired. That is, they do not represent flight risk and they were not hiding in a corner.
While you can blame their parents all you like, kids don't usually make a decision to "Come without permission, you jerks." (Since they did come here with permission to start with).
I am always stunned that people are so perverted and sick in their thinking that they find joy in beating up on kids. Maybe a public flogging of an infant would release your anger?
Maybe your "jerk" reference should be aimed at the reporter who clarified nothing, not the posters forced to draw conclusions. And no, I don't think anyone condones flogging an infant. Not sure about OK City (I'm assuming that's where you are), but I think you do have an MS13 problem, LI does. Here in NY, ILLEGAL immigration is a sensitive subject.

By the way, if you're ever on LI, go get a cup of coffee at 7AM at 7-11 in Farmingdale, Hampton Bays, Selden, Patchogue, Bay Shore, Brentwood (take your pick) tell me how comfortable you feel, then imagine living here, paying a ridiculous amount in taxes that grow exponentionally every year, Jerk.

“I am the great an powerful Ny!”

Since: Dec 06

Lebanon, PA

#20 Mar 12, 2007
readjust wrote:
<quoted text>
Here in NY, ILLEGAL immigration is a sensitive subject.
By the way, if you're ever on LI, go get a cup of coffee at 7AM at 7-11 in Farmingdale, Hampton Bays, Selden, Patchogue, Bay Shore, Brentwood (take your pick) tell me how comfortable you feel, then imagine living here, paying a ridiculous amount in taxes that grow exponentionally every year, Jerk.
Illegal immigration happens everywhere, it's not just confined to NY. It happens where I work and where I live (Reading and Lebanon PA). And as I stated above, I'm fine with legal immigration when the immigrants are contributing to the system like every other citizen. Illegal immigration IS a problem but those people are just trying to make themselves a better life compared to where they lived before. We do have to stop supporting them though.

BTW, keep your drug dealers in your own state and stop sending them to our areas.

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