Where the real "war on women" is bein...

Where the real "war on women" is being fought

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Deborah

Minneapolis, MN

#1 Nov 21, 2012
http://liveactionnews.org/international/its-a...

"It begins with an Indian woman standing in a homemade graveyard, telling her story. Eight times, she got pregnant, hoping for a son. Eight times, a daughter was born. Eight times, she strangled her daughter and buried her. She laughs nervously as she speaks. She doesn’t seem to feel a terrible sadness, and why should she?“Women have the power to give life,” she explains,“and the power to take it away.”

" The documentary film It’s A Girl [ http://www.itsagirlmovie.com ] thrusts the viewer into the real war on women with a glimpse inside two patriarchal societies. Despite the words of the woman who killed her eight newborn daughters, the cause of widespread gendercide in China and India is not the power of women. It is its opposite – the devaluing of women at every age – that has led to abortion of female children at a rate of up to 30% throughout China and India, along with the rampant abuse, neglect, and murder of girls and young women.

In India, daughters are liability, sons an asset – quite literally. When a daughter reaches marrying age, an outrageously expensive dowry must be paid to her husband’s family. This is why, as Rita Banerji of 50 Million Missing explains, the dowry system, which has created the anti-female society that results in female feticide, infanticide, neglect, abuse, and death, is not based on actual need; rather, it is “greed-based.”

[...]

... once you’re pregnant, pray it is a boy, because even when the law on paper protects women in India, it’s not enforced, as in the case of sex-determination ultrasounds. They’re technically illegal, but no one cares. A great deal of money can be earned by doctors under the table for breaking this law, often at the request of husbands and their families who want to know the gender of a baby so it can be aborted if it is female – by medical procedure, or by pushing your wife down the stairs.

The situation in China is just as grim. In rural areas, couples are allowed two children if the first is a girl, so they have a chance for a boy. Forced abortions and sterilizations are shockingly common.

In something out of an Orwellian nightmare, Family Planning Police are informed by village spies, who are rewarded for informing on their neighbors. These police drag women out of their house for abortions. Families are fined exorbitant, impossible fees for violating the policies. In the film, one couple tell their heartbreaking story of having to split up their three daughters into different homes, then move away to avoid arrest, leaving their daughters behind.

[...]

It’s A Girl is expertly crafted and mesmerizing, taking you inside these cultures and allowing you to meet not only the experts who sift through the repulsive data of gendercide to inform the rest of us, but also the women and children who have been affected by son-preference cultures: victims, perpetrators, survivors, freedom-fighters.

It’s A Girl also throws into sharp relief the pettiness of women in the United States who call a lack of 100% free contraception a “war on women,” and who support organizations like Planned Parenthood which do nothing to stop sex-selection abortion.

There is much work to be done to end the devaluing of women in China, in India, and across the globe. To find out where you can view It’s A Girl and get involved to end gendercide, visit ItsAGirlMovie.com . Also, stay tuned to Live Action News for my upcoming interview with Reggie Littlejohn and learn more about Women’s Rights Without Frontiers [ http://womensrightswithoutfrontiers.org/index... ] and the Save A Girl campaign.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#2 Nov 21, 2012
Deborah wrote:
It’s A Girl also throws into sharp relief the pettiness of women in the United States who call a lack of 100% free contraception a “war on women,” and who support organizations like Planned Parenthood which do nothing to stop sex-selection abortion.

There is much work to be done to end the devaluing of women
Here is your first clue "The documentary film It’s A Girl [ http://www.itsagirlmovie.com ] thrusts the viewer into the real war on women with a glimpse inside two patriarchal societies".

Obviously you applaud "patriarchal societies" and "patriarchal religion".

Keep spouting the ridiculous lies of the right wing. The contraception argument was based on prescription coverage. The backwards anti woman religious freaks are the ones who forced the hand of "free preventive" coverage as backlash to the religious discrimination BS.

Keep lying you will continue to lose elections.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#3 Nov 21, 2012
Deborah wrote:
http://liveactionnews.org/international/its-a...
"It begins with an Indian woman standing in a homemade graveyard, telling her story. Eight times, she got pregnant, hoping for a son. Eight times, a daughter was born. Eight times, she strangled her daughter and buried her. She laughs nervously as she speaks. She doesn’t seem to feel a terrible sadness, and why should she?“Women have the power to give life,” she explains,“and the power to take it away.”
" The documentary film It’s A Girl [ http://www.itsagirlmovie.com ] thrusts the viewer into the real war on women with a glimpse inside two patriarchal societies. Despite the words of the woman who killed her eight newborn daughters, the cause of widespread gendercide in China and India is not the power of women. It is its opposite – the devaluing of women at every age – that has led to abortion of female children at a rate of up to 30% throughout China and India, along with the rampant abuse, neglect, and murder of girls and young women.
In India, daughters are liability, sons an asset – quite literally. When a daughter reaches marrying age, an outrageously expensive dowry must be paid to her husband’s family. This is why, as Rita Banerji of 50 Million Missing explains, the dowry system, which has created the anti-female society that results in female feticide, infanticide, neglect, abuse, and death, is not based on actual need; rather, it is “greed-based.”
[...]
... once you’re pregnant, pray it is a boy, because even when the law on paper protects women in India, it’s not enforced, as in the case of sex-determination ultrasounds. They’re technically illegal, but no one cares. A great deal of money can be earned by doctors under the table for breaking this law, often at the request of husbands and their families who want to know the gender of a baby so it can be aborted if it is female – by medical procedure, or by pushing your wife down the stairs.
The situation in China is just as grim. In rural areas, couples are allowed two children if the first is a girl, so they have a chance for a boy. Forced abortions and sterilizations are shockingly common.
In something out of an Orwellian nightmare, Family Planning Police are informed by village spies, who are rewarded for informing on their neighbors. These police drag women out of their house for abortions. Families are fined exorbitant, impossible fees for violating the policies. In the film, one couple tell their heartbreaking story of having to split up their three daughters into different homes, then move away to avoid arrest, leaving their daughters behind.
[...]
It’s A Girl is expertly crafted and mesmerizing, taking you inside these cultures and allowing you to meet not only the experts who sift through the repulsive data of gendercide to inform the rest of us, but also the women and children who have been affected by son-preference cultures: victims, perpetrators, survivors, freedom-fighters.
It’s A Girl also throws into sharp relief the pettiness of women in the United States who call a lack of 100% free contraception a “war on women,” and who support organizations like Planned Parenthood which do nothing to stop sex-selection abortion.
There is much work to be done to end the devaluing of women in China, in India, and across the globe. To find out where you can view It’s A Girl and get involved to end gendercide, visit ItsAGirlMovie.com . Also, stay tuned to Live Action News for my upcoming interview with Reggie Littlejohn and learn more about Women’s Rights Without Frontiers [ http://womensrightswithoutfrontiers.org/index... ] and the Save A Girl campaign.
Thank you! Ignore the militant feminists here, they do not represent most women, they hate men. Nice post.
Ocean56

AOL

#4 Nov 22, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
Obviously you applaud "patriarchal societies" and "patriarchal religion".
Keep spouting the ridiculous lies of the right wing. The contraception argument was based on prescription coverage. The backwards anti woman religious freaks are the ones who forced the hand of "free preventive" coverage as backlash to the religious discrimination BS.
Keep lying you will continue to lose elections.
Agreed. Although I have NO problem whatsoever with republicans losing elections, especially those like Romney/Ryan, whose thinking about women stopped at the 19th century.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#5 Nov 22, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
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Agreed. Although I have NO problem whatsoever with republicans losing elections, especially those like Romney/Ryan, whose thinking about women stopped at the 19th century.
Their lies obviously...and will continually catch up with them.

AND they will continue to lose. Poor dears.:)
Deborah

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Nov 22, 2012
kaylayossi wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you! Ignore the militant feminists here, they do not represent most women, they hate men. Nice post.
I'm glad they don't represent most women, whose consciences are sufficiently well-formed to morally abhor sex-selection abortions. A Lozier Institute poll from May 2012 says that 77 percent of respondents would support a law banning abortion in cases where “the fact that the developing baby is a girl is the sole reason for seeking an abortion.”

I notice that none of the ostensible feminists on this forum have condemned sex-selection abortions, in this country or in the rest of the world.

Nor has Planned Parenthood condemned sex-selection abortions, for that matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch... -- Sex Selection in America
Deborah

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Nov 22, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
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Agreed. Although I have NO problem whatsoever with republicans losing elections,...
You're overlooking where the real pro-life action is happening: at the state level, where pro-life Republicans did very, very well in 2012 elections and where pro-life legislation will continue to flourish, as it has in 2011 and 2012.

[from Politico] "Standing in stark contrast to the outcome of the presidential and U.S. Senate races, Republicans strengthened their control of state capitols on Nov. 6. The GOP went into 2012 with unified control of the governor’s mansions and legislatures in 24 states and will come out with full political control of 25 states. Democrats will head into 2013 with a disadvantage at the state level, having total control of just 13 states." Republicans have control of 30 state governorships.

"In 2012, at least 60 new life-affirming laws, including at least 38 measures related to abortion, were enacted. Additionally, 16 pro-life state resolutions were adopted. This follows on the heels of 2011, when, 47 states considered more than 460 measures related to abortion, the overwhelming majority of which were pro-life. More than 70 of these life-affirming, abortion-related measures were enacted.

"These include prohibitions on government funding of or insurance coverage for abortion, legislation or resolutions related to pregnancy care centers, informed consent and parental involvement legislation, ultrasound requirements, restrictions on or regulation of abortion-inducing drugs and “telemed” abortions, and abortion clinic regulations."

A few of the many 2012 examples, from the Guttmacher Institute [ http://www.guttmacher.org/statecenter/updates... ]:

State Funding of Alternatives-to-Abortion Services

**Enacted in AK, KS, MI, MN, MO and PA
**(ENACTED) ALASKA: In May, Gov. Sean Parnell (R) signed a measure that allocates $200,000 for the creation of a crisis pregnancy center. The measure is in effect.
**(ENACTED) KANSAS: In May, Gov. Sam Brownback (R) signed into law a measure that allocates more than $300,000 to fund alternatives-to-abortion services. The bill also funds family planning services, reenacts a priority-based system for distributing family planning funds and limits state employee participation in abortion. The new law is in effect.
**(ENACTED) MICHIGAN: In June, Gov. Rick Snyder (R) signed into law a measure that allocates $2 million for alternatives to abortion and services for pregnant women. The current program offers a range of services to a woman during her pregnancy and for one year following birth. The new law, which also contains a restriction on family planning funds and funding levels for family planning, is in effect.
**(ENACTED) MINNESOTA: In April, Gov. Mark Dayton (D) signed a measure that amends the requirements for organizations seeking funding for alternatives to abortion programs. The bill expands eligibility for alternatives to abortion grants to organizations that have had operational programs since 2011 instead of 2005. The measure is currently in effect.
**(ENACTED) MISSOURI: In June, Gov. Jay Nixon (D) approved an appropriations bill that allocates more than $1.6 million for alternatives-to-abortion services for pregnant women. The new law goes into effect in August.
** MISSOURI: In April, the House passed a measure that would require state entities that receive monies from certain federal grants to evaluate whether any of the funds can be diverted to alternatives-to-abortion programs. No further action is expected since the legislature has adjourned its regular session.
**(ENACTED) PENNSYLVANIA: In June, Gov. Tom Corbett (R) signed into law the state’s budget that allocates more than $6 million to provide alternatives to abortion and services for pregnant women. The new law, which also allocates funding for family planning, is in effect.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#8 Nov 22, 2012
Deborah wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm glad they don't represent most women, whose consciences are sufficiently well-formed to morally abhor sex-selection abortions. A Lozier Institute poll from May 2012 says that 77 percent of respondents would support a law banning abortion in cases where “the fact that the developing baby is a girl is the sole reason for seeking an abortion.”
I notice that none of the ostensible feminists on this forum have condemned sex-selection abortions, in this country or in the rest of the world.
Nor has Planned Parenthood condemned sex-selection abortions, for that matter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch... -- Sex Selection in America
They will never condemn any type of abortion, they're too far gone. They want to be able to kill anyone that doesn't fit into their lives. They literally have no morals, it's very sad. Happy Thanksgiving to you!
Deborah

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Nov 22, 2012
kaylayossi wrote:
<quoted text>
They will never condemn any type of abortion, they're too far gone. They want to be able to kill anyone that doesn't fit into their lives. They literally have no morals, it's very sad. Happy Thanksgiving to you!
And Happy Thanksgiving to you. I'm thankful to be living in a country where the vast majority of citizens view sex-selection abortion as the morally repugnant barbarity it is.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#10 Nov 22, 2012
Dear Republicans:

Thank you for your class warfare, for your bull-headedness on taxes, your contempt for the poor and middle-class, your racism, your bigotry, your cluelessness about gender politics, your sneering hostility toward immigrants and minorities.On this Thanksgiving Day, a personal request: Please don't change.

Please keep digging in your heels about not raising taxes on the top one percent even if it means sending the country into a second recession, so that the rest of us can see, once and for all, who your masters are, whose interests you really serve.

Please keep talking endlessly about the wealth-makers and the "small business owners," and never breathe a word about the waitress mom who works long hours at the small restaurant, the clerk who labors at the small insurance company, the teachers who work heroically in crumbling school buildings, the workers who toil in factories whose owners constantly threaten to take their business overseas. Keep doing this until people see, as they did in this month's election, that your loyalties are not with the workers who fuel our economy.

While you're at it, please keep pissing off women by talking about them in infantilizing terms, by not trusting them to make mature, adult, informed choices about their own bodies, by expanding your 40-year-old war against abortion into a war against contraception. Keep unleashing people like Akin and Mourdock onto the people, who are already scratching their heads, wondering if they have suddenly woken up in the 1950s -- in Russia.
Keep trying to convince us that a Republican who believes that abortion should only be legal in cases of saving the life of the mother or in cases of rape and incest, is a progressive Republican. That position will put you only slightly to the left of the Taliban.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#11 Nov 22, 2012
Deborah wrote:
<quoted text>
You're overlooking where the real pro-life action is happening: at the state level, where pro-life Republicans did very, very well in 2012 elections and where pro-life legislation will continue to flourish, as it has in 2011 and 2012.
[from Politico] "Standing in stark contrast to the outcome of the presidential and U.S. Senate races, Republicans strengthened their control of state capitols on Nov. 6. The GOP went into 2012 with unified control of the governor’s mansions and legislatures in 24 states and will come out with full political control of 25 states. Democrats will head into 2013 with a disadvantage at the state level, having total control of just 13 states." Republicans have control of 30 state governorships.
"In 2012, at least 60 new life-affirming laws, including at least 38 measures related to abortion, were enacted. Additionally, 16 pro-life state resolutions were adopted. This follows on the heels of 2011, when, 47 states considered more than 460 measures related to abortion, the overwhelming majority of which were pro-life. More than 70 of these life-affirming, abortion-related measures were enacted.
"These include prohibitions on government funding of or insurance coverage for abortion, legislation or resolutions related to pregnancy care centers, informed consent and parental involvement legislation, ultrasound requirements, restrictions on or regulation of abortion-inducing drugs and “telemed” abortions, and abortion clinic regulations."
A few of the many 2012 examples, from the Guttmacher Institute
But...but...I thought the Rapepublicans were not going to infringe on womens rights????

You go right ahead and live the life of a brood mare without choices on YOUR medical/physical condition, you can reduce YOURSELF to the bottom of the food chain.....but YOU will NOT take the rest of us with you in your fetus worshipping agenda. Bye bye!
katie

Federal Way, WA

#12 Nov 22, 2012
Deborah wrote:
<quoted text>
And Happy Thanksgiving to you. I'm thankful to be living in a country where the vast majority of citizens view sex-selection abortion as the morally repugnant barbarity it is.
What is the annual number of abortions for sex selection in America?
Do you even know? Would you be relieved to know it's not an issue here? Or is it just another PLM lie you *want* to believe is true so you can use it as a weapon against women who fight for civil rights; even yours.
Deborah

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Nov 22, 2012
katie wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the annual number of abortions for sex selection in America?
Do you even know? Would you be relieved to know it's not an issue here? Or is it just another PLM lie you *want* to believe is true so you can use it as a weapon against women who fight for civil rights; even yours.
Let's see. That's three abortion apologists heard from on this thread, and not a single moral denunciation of sex-selection abortion yet. Why are we not surprised? Whatever happened to feminists standing up for the oppressed sisterhood? Whatever happened to the feminists' aggrieved howls of outrage at blatant discrimination against women? How much more discriminatory can you get than targeting them in the womb just because they're women?

The Atlantic (no right-wing publication it) begs to differ with your.(Note in paragraph 1 the usual sky-is-falling pro-abort rhetoric about "anti-choice crusaders" and and the abortion-word-avoiding euphemisms like "reproductive health care.")

"... Son preference, missing girls, sex selection: We may seek to label these Chinese or Indian issues, but they exist here in America. And with anti-choice crusaders desperate to destroy the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, America's leading provider of affordable reproductive health care for women, the purportedly spreading practice of sex-selective abortion is back in the news. With the Prenatal Nondiscrimination Act up for a vote in the House Thursday, it's also back in full force on the legislative agenda.

"The extent of sex-selective practices in the U.S. is hard to assess, since it's rarely something people will admit to doing. But we can make an educated guess by observing alterations in expected sex ratios. If nature has its way, women will likely give birth to 100 girls for every 102 to 106 boys (for a ratio of 1.02 to 1.06 boys per girl). And among first-time parents in the U.S., that's exactly what we see.

"However, as birth order rises, apparently so does selection -- at least, in certain ethnic groups. With 2000 U.S. Census data, researchers investigating Korean, Chinese, and Indian communities found that, after having one girl, parents have as many as 1.17 boys per girl when their next child is born. With two girls at home, the ratio goes up to 1.51 boys per girl for the third child (meaning 151 boys are born for each 100 girls)."
katie

Federal Way, WA

#14 Nov 22, 2012
Deborah wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's see. That's three abortion apologists heard from on this thread, and not a single moral denunciation of sex-selection abortion yet. Why are we not surprised? Whatever happened to feminists standing up for the oppressed sisterhood? Whatever happened to the feminists' aggrieved howls of outrage at blatant discrimination against women? How much more discriminatory can you get than targeting them in the womb just because they're women?
The Atlantic (no right-wing publication it) begs to differ with your.(Note in paragraph 1 the usual sky-is-falling pro-abort rhetoric about "anti-choice crusaders" and and the abortion-word-avoiding euphemisms like "reproductive health care.")
"... Son preference, missing girls, sex selection: We may seek to label these Chinese or Indian issues, but they exist here in America. And with anti-choice crusaders desperate to destroy the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, America's leading provider of affordable reproductive health care for women, the purportedly spreading practice of sex-selective abortion is back in the news. With the Prenatal Nondiscrimination Act up for a vote in the House Thursday, it's also back in full force on the legislative agenda.
"The extent of sex-selective practices in the U.S. is hard to assess, since it's rarely something people will admit to doing. But we can make an educated guess by observing alterations in expected sex ratios. If nature has its way, women will likely give birth to 100 girls for every 102 to 106 boys (for a ratio of 1.02 to 1.06 boys per girl). And among first-time parents in the U.S., that's exactly what we see.
"However, as birth order rises, apparently so does selection -- at least, in certain ethnic groups. With 2000 U.S. Census data, researchers investigating Korean, Chinese, and Indian communities found that, after having one girl, parents have as many as 1.17 boys per girl when their next child is born. With two girls at home, the ratio goes up to 1.51 boys per girl for the third child (meaning 151 boys are born for each 100 girls)."
Look up PGD. Sperm is separated for sex selection in America. Usually by educated, affluent women (like those who rub elbows with the Romneys).

Or believe the spoonfed lies that keep you corralled with the rest of the herd, while erroneously believing you're better than those who fight for your freedom.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#15 Nov 22, 2012
Deborah wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's see. That's three abortion apologists heard from on this thread, and not a single moral denunciation of sex-selection abortion yet. Why are we not surprised? Whatever happened to feminists standing up for the oppressed sisterhood? Whatever happened to the feminists' aggrieved howls of outrage at blatant discrimination against women? How much more discriminatory can you get than targeting them in the womb just because they're women?
The Atlantic (no right-wing publication it) begs to differ with your.(Note in paragraph 1 the usual sky-is-falling pro-abort rhetoric about "anti-choice crusaders" and and the abortion-word-avoiding euphemisms like "reproductive health care.")
"... Son preference, missing girls, sex selection: We may seek to label these Chinese or Indian issues, but they exist here in America. And with anti-choice crusaders desperate to destroy the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, America's leading provider of affordable reproductive health care for women, the purportedly spreading practice of sex-selective abortion is back in the news. With the Prenatal Nondiscrimination Act up for a vote in the House Thursday, it's also back in full force on the legislative agenda.
"The extent of sex-selective practices in the U.S. is hard to assess, since it's rarely something people will admit to doing. But we can make an educated guess by observing alterations in expected sex ratios. If nature has its way, women will likely give birth to 100 girls for every 102 to 106 boys (for a ratio of 1.02 to 1.06 boys per girl). And among first-time parents in the U.S., that's exactly what we see.
"However, as birth order rises, apparently so does selection -- at least, in certain ethnic groups. With 2000 U.S. Census data, researchers investigating Korean, Chinese, and Indian communities found that, after having one girl, parents have as many as 1.17 boys per girl when their next child is born. With two girls at home, the ratio goes up to 1.51 boys per girl for the third child (meaning 151 boys are born for each 100 girls)."
No one is addressing it, because it's a non-issue here. It's just your penchant for melodrama rearing it's ugly head, that's all.

By the way, Moron, there are no women in a uterus. That's because women are ADULTS, not fetuses. And sorry, but any adult still in the uterus deserves to be evicted. It's time they moved out on their own.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#16 Nov 22, 2012
Deborah, they will not address this issue, because it makes them look that much worse. They believe in abortion for ANY reason at all, even gender selection, it's astounding how heartless these militants are. Oh, and you're no moron, you're a caring woman. Don't let anything bitter says bother you, she's a self righteous, cold hearted animal. Not worth your time.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#17 Nov 22, 2012
kaylayossi wrote:
Deborah, they will not address this issue, because it makes them look that much worse. They believe in abortion for ANY reason at all, even gender selection, it's astounding how heartless these militants are. Oh, and you're no moron, you're a caring woman. Don't let anything bitter says bother you, she's a self righteous, cold hearted animal. Not worth your time.
Aw, still pretending you're ignoring me? Hint; you're still paying attention to me if you're reading my posts.

Gender selection abortions are a non-issue in this country, and we're not responsible for what happens in other countries. What's to address?
Ocean56

AOL

#18 Nov 23, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
Dear Republicans:
Thank you for your class warfare, for your bull-headedness on taxes, your contempt for the poor and middle-class, your racism, your bigotry, your cluelessness about gender politics, your sneering hostility toward immigrants and minorities.On this Thanksgiving Day, a personal request: Please don't change.
Please keep digging in your heels about not raising taxes on the top one percent even if it means sending the country into a second recession, so that the rest of us can see, once and for all, who your masters are, whose interests you really serve.
Please keep talking endlessly about the wealth-makers and the "small business owners," and never breathe a word about the waitress mom who works long hours at the small restaurant, the clerk who labors at the small insurance company, the teachers who work heroically in crumbling school buildings, the workers who toil in factories whose owners constantly threaten to take their business overseas. Keep doing this until people see, as they did in this month's election, that your loyalties are not with the workers who fuel our economy.
While you're at it, please keep pissing off women by talking about them in infantilizing terms, by not trusting them to make mature, adult, informed choices about their own bodies, by expanding your 40-year-old war against abortion into a war against contraception. Keep unleashing people like Akin and Mourdock onto the people, who are already scratching their heads, wondering if they have suddenly woken up in the 1950s -- in Russia.
Keep trying to convince us that a Republican who believes that abortion should only be legal in cases of saving the life of the mother or in cases of rape and incest, is a progressive Republican. That position will put you only slightly to the left of the Taliban.
BRILLIANTLY stated, Morgana. Thanks.:-)

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#19 Nov 23, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
BRILLIANTLY stated, Morgana. Thanks.:-)
I can't take the credit!

A friend emailed it to me that found it on the internet without an authors name. The letter has much more to it . Glad you enjoyed it...pass it on!
Ocean56

AOL

#20 Nov 23, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
I can't take the credit!
A friend emailed it to me that found it on the internet without an authors name. The letter has much more to it. Glad you enjoyed it...pass it on!
Thanks! I'll pass it on in a few other places when I can.

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