Pro Life or Just Plain Stupid?

Pro Life or Just Plain Stupid?

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“PC Mom of 1 + 1 on the way!”

Since: Aug 07

Connecticut...

#1 Sep 6, 2007
When engaging a person who does not share the same belief system as yourself it is only common knowledge to use polite and educated terms in attempt to make your point seem valid and educated right?

Not the pro lifers!!!! Vulgarities, slurs, carrying on like small children told "no".
Screaming at women who disagree with their stance, calling them names, throwing things at them while they are attempting to receive medical care?
Silly me but I wouldn't consider that something very "pro life".
I would think of that as "anti life" or "anti health care" maybe simply immature because these people do not agree with the standards they insist everyone must live by.

Maybe they didn't get the memo that we live in the United States of America and not Iran. Women here have freedoms, just as much as the men of this country. They cannot be forced to believe what someone else thinks is right or wrong.

Morals are subjective. What YOU may think is moral, the next person may not and in this country that is fully acceptable.
I think Gay Marriage is a great idea and benefits for everyone in this country. You may not.
I think abortion is necessary in todays society.
You may not.

Idolizing such ignorant, racist, uneducated figures like Ann Coulter or George W. Bush only shows yet another downfall of the "pro life" side.

Pro life? Until birth of course. Then the are on their own. Personally I think that the "pro life" movement should stop calling themselves Pro Life and correct the term to what they really are. Pre Life.
Anything to get those fetuses born then screw 'em!

Taken from
http://prochoiceconnection.blogspot.com/

“It's about freedom of choice.”

Since: Jun 07

Mannasas Va.

#2 Sep 6, 2007
DanielleCT wrote:
When engaging a person who does not share the same belief system as yourself it is only common knowledge to use polite and educated terms in attempt to make your point seem valid and educated right?
Not the pro lifers!!!! Vulgarities, slurs, carrying on like small children told "no".
Screaming at women who disagree with their stance, calling them names, throwing things at them while they are attempting to receive medical care?
Silly me but I wouldn't consider that something very "pro life".
I would think of that as "anti life" or "anti health care" maybe simply immature because these people do not agree with the standards they insist everyone must live by.
Maybe they didn't get the memo that we live in the United States of America and not Iran. Women here have freedoms, just as much as the men of this country. They cannot be forced to believe what someone else thinks is right or wrong.
Morals are subjective. What YOU may think is moral, the next person may not and in this country that is fully acceptable.
I think Gay Marriage is a great idea and benefits for everyone in this country. You may not.
I think abortion is necessary in todays society.
You may not.
Idolizing such ignorant, racist, uneducated figures like Ann Coulter or George W. Bush only shows yet another downfall of the "pro life" side.
Pro life? Until birth of course. Then the are on their own. Personally I think that the "pro life" movement should stop calling themselves Pro Life and correct the term to what they really are. Pre Life.
Anything to get those fetuses born then screw 'em!
Taken from
http://prochoiceconnection.blogspot.com/
Amen to that Danielle & that's EXACTLY why I've given them the name "pre lifers" myself.
just facts

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#3 Sep 7, 2007
DanielleCT wrote:
When engaging a person who does not share the same belief system as yourself it is only common knowledge to use polite and educated terms in attempt to make your point seem valid and educated right?
Not the pro lifers!!!! Vulgarities, slurs, carrying on like small children told "no".
Screaming at women who disagree with their stance, calling them names, throwing things at them while they are attempting to receive medical care?
Silly me but I wouldn't consider that something very "pro life".
I would think of that as "anti life" or "anti health care" maybe simply immature because these people do not agree with the standards they insist everyone must live by.
Maybe they didn't get the memo that we live in the United States of America and not Iran. Women here have freedoms, just as much as the men of this country. They cannot be forced to believe what someone else thinks is right or wrong.
Morals are subjective. What YOU may think is moral, the next person may not and in this country that is fully acceptable.
I think Gay Marriage is a great idea and benefits for everyone in this country. You may not.
I think abortion is necessary in todays society.
You may not.
Idolizing such ignorant, racist, uneducated figures like Ann Coulter or George W. Bush only shows yet another downfall of the "pro life" side.
Pro life? Until birth of course. Then the are on their own. Personally I think that the "pro life" movement should stop calling themselves Pro Life and correct the term to what they really are. Pre Life.
Anything to get those fetuses born then screw 'em!
Taken from
http://prochoiceconnection.blogspot.com/
JUST A QUESTION BUT WHAT ABOUT WOMEN WHO WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN TO HAVE A WONDERFUL LITTLE LIFE TO LOVE AND WATCH GROW? A WOMAN THAT CAN'T HAVE KIDS AND WATCH THESE WOMEN DISPOSE OF THEM LIKE TRASH SORRY THATS A BABY. IF YOU DON'T WANT KIDS LET'S TRY NOT DOING THAT THING WE ALL KNOW CREATES THEM OR AT LEAST TAKE THE PILL!

“Beauty on four legs”

Since: Sep 06

Location hidden

#4 Sep 7, 2007
So, you think women should be turned into baby machines for those who are infertile? That's a NO.

If all those infertile women want to raise a baby, why are so many children out there languishing in foster homes? Lots of "wonderful" lives - real, living people - rotting away out there....

Since: Jul 07

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#5 Sep 7, 2007
just facts wrote:
<quoted text> JUST A QUESTION BUT WHAT ABOUT WOMEN WHO WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN TO HAVE A WONDERFUL LITTLE LIFE TO LOVE AND WATCH GROW? A WOMAN THAT CAN'T HAVE KIDS AND WATCH THESE WOMEN DISPOSE OF THEM LIKE TRASH SORRY THATS A BABY. IF YOU DON'T WANT KIDS LET'S TRY NOT DOING THAT THING WE ALL KNOW CREATES THEM OR AT LEAST TAKE THE PILL!
Sorry, but a ZEF is NOT a "baby," the constant anti-choice ranting to the contrary. Obviously, contraception is preferable, and most women who can afford it, and have access to it can use it to prevent unwanted pregnancy. However, ALL contraceptive methods are subject to the occasional failure. When the BC method fails, and the woman DOES NOT want to be pregnant, she can choose NOT to continue the pregnancy.

I'm sorry you can't have children, if that was your implication. Maybe you should consider adoption; of a CHILD, one currently languishing in foster care, hoping for a good and loving home, instead of demanding that women gestate unwanted pregnancies to satisify your desire for an infant.
SOHC 4

New Albany, IN

#6 Sep 7, 2007
DanielleCT wrote:
When engaging a person who does not share the same belief system as yourself it is only common knowledge to use polite and educated terms in attempt to make your point seem valid and educated right?
Not the pro lifers!!!! Vulgarities, slurs, carrying on like small children told "no".
Screaming at women who disagree with their stance, calling them names, throwing things at them while they are attempting to receive medical care?
Silly me but I wouldn't consider that something very "pro life".. Personally I think that the "pro life" movement should stop calling themselves Pro Life and correct the term to what they really are. Pre Life.
Anything to get those fetuses born then screw 'em!
Taken from
http://prochoiceconnection.blogspot.com/
Danielle:..... Yeah, it's gonna be an uphill battle for them. Now, if they just wanted this for themselves ... O.K.!...But to shove it down the throats of others ~~ they've got themselves a battle!
... It's human nature to want others to agree with you.... I'm PRO-abortion and I want you to agree with everything I say. Now, I might not get that from you,... but I'd be lying if I said I didn't want it....So I can see their angle.

“PC Mom of 1 + 1 on the way!”

Since: Aug 07

Connecticut...

#7 Sep 7, 2007
just facts wrote:
<quoted text> JUST A QUESTION BUT WHAT ABOUT WOMEN WHO WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN TO HAVE A WONDERFUL LITTLE LIFE TO LOVE AND WATCH GROW? A WOMAN THAT CAN'T HAVE KIDS AND WATCH THESE WOMEN DISPOSE OF THEM LIKE TRASH SORRY THATS A BABY. IF YOU DON'T WANT KIDS LET'S TRY NOT DOING THAT THING WE ALL KNOW CREATES THEM OR AT LEAST TAKE THE PILL!
Why should the fertile women who can get pregnant have to supply babies for the barren? Oh, thats right, they don't have to.
If these people want children so much, they should adopt one of the thousands available right this minute in this country.
Maybe there is a damn good reason that their "god" wont let them get pregnant?

“It's about freedom of choice.”

Since: Jun 07

Mannasas Va.

#8 Sep 7, 2007
DanielleCT wrote:
<quoted text>
Why should the fertile women who can get pregnant have to supply babies for the barren? Oh, thats right, they don't have to.
If these people want children so much, they should adopt one of the thousands available right this minute in this country.
Maybe there is a damn good reason that their "god" wont let them get pregnant?
Good point..the prelifers shouldn't be allowed to breed.
just facts

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#9 Sep 8, 2007
DanielleCT wrote:
<quoted text>
Why should the fertile women who can get pregnant have to supply babies for the barren? Oh, thats right, they don't have to.
If these people want children so much, they should adopt one of the thousands available right this minute in this country.
Maybe there is a damn good reason that their "god" wont let them get pregnant?
I am not saying that anyone should be turned into a baby machine I am saying maybe you shouldn't have sex if you can't handle what come after anyone who could kill there own child is a murder if a mans actions causes a woman to lose her child its murder but women should be allowed to KILL her child NOT and for adoption been there I work for the foster care system and I have to say yes they are alot of children out there but how many people do you know with $25,000 or more just laying around adoption fee are outrageous something needs to be done about legal selling babys to but I will say that most of the time it is a heartless crack head or drugie that doesn't want there child and then of course you have teens who just don't really understand what their doing till it's to late and then theres no turning back The only real reason for having an abortion is health reasons but as for just not wanting to be resposible for what you have done I don't think so and I would also like to point out the fact that when you get caught abusing your child it should be prison time no if and buts

“Beauty on four legs”

Since: Sep 06

Location hidden

#10 Sep 8, 2007
Most of your post is unintelligible gibberish, but I wanted to respond to this:

The only real reason for having an abortion is health reasons but as for just not wanting to be resposible for what you have done I don't think so

For many women, getting an abortion is the responsible decision. You may not agree, but that has no bearing on what any other woman may decide. You don't get to vote.
just facts

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#11 Sep 8, 2007
pbfa wrote:
Most of your post is unintelligible gibberish, but I wanted to respond to this:
The only real reason for having an abortion is health reasons but as for just not wanting to be resposible for what you have done I don't think so
For many women, getting an abortion is the responsible decision. You may not agree, but that has no bearing on what any other woman may decide. You don't get to vote.
I am pretty sure YOU DON'T THINK AT ALL your probley on here looking for justifcation for being a baby murder I think that yes we are becoming a comunist country which I don't agree with but when it comes to murder it wrong and I also think if you get an abortion for anything other than health reason you need to be fixed and if you like murdering babys then you might want to look in to living in china where it is very common to kill babys especially girls what does your mother [who let you live] think about your views

“Beauty on four legs”

Since: Sep 06

Location hidden

#12 Sep 8, 2007
What is that in English?
just facts

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#13 Sep 8, 2007
pbfa wrote:
What is that in English?
You are probley to selfish to think of anyone other than yourself what about the fathers of these babies I guessing it's ok to have your fun with them but they have no rights either how could you ever find a man who wanted to be with a [girl] like you it would probley help if you could find a bible and GOD I'm sure you will answer to him one day about throwing the greatest gift he could ever give you [HE WILL PROBLEY ASK YOU HOW YOU COULD THROW A LIFE HE TRUSTED YOU WITH IN THE TRASH] I sure hope you have a GOOD answer for that one .... God bless your soul
just facts

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#14 Sep 8, 2007
STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT

I am pleased that the Supreme Court upheld a law that prohibits the abhorrent procedure of partial-birth abortion. Today's decision affirms that the Constitution does not stand in the way of the people's representatives enacting laws reflecting the compassion and humanity of America. The partial-birth abortion ban, which an overwhelming bipartisan majority in Congress passed and I signed into law, represents a commitment to building a culture of life in America.



The Supreme Court's decision is an affirmation of the progress we have made over the past six years in protecting human dignity and upholding the sanctity of life. We will continue to work for the day when every child is welcomed in life and protected in law.

“Beauty on four legs”

Since: Sep 06

Location hidden

#15 Sep 8, 2007
English, moron, english!

I have a Bible - several, in fact. Why do I need to find your god? You lost it, you find it. Stop being so careless.
just facts

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#16 Sep 8, 2007
NRLC Legislative Director Douglas Johnson commented, "The 2002 law and today's actions by the agency were both badly needed, because there are those in our society who have convinced themselves that some newborn infants -- particularly those born alive during abortions, or with handicaps -- are not really legal persons."

The law [Public Law 107-207] established that in all federal laws and regulations, the words "person," "human being," "child," and "individual" include "every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development." The law also defines "born alive" as meaning "the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion."
just facts

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#17 Sep 8, 2007
pbfa wrote:
English, moron, english!
I have a Bible - several, in fact. Why do I need to find your god? You lost it, you find it. Stop being so careless.
it don't get more english than that or can't you read very well sounds to me like you have nothing better to say what the matter run out of a way to make your self look better it's really hard to defend something that is wrong my GOD is your God there is not two Gods and I supossed to be the moron it sounds to me like your hard at work for the Devil
just facts

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#18 Sep 8, 2007
pbfa wrote:
English, moron, english!
I have a Bible - several, in fact. Why do I need to find your god? You lost it, you find it. Stop being so careless.
those Bibles would do alot more for you if you open them and read whats inside them
Dewhickey

Falling Waters, WV

#19 Sep 8, 2007
just facts wrote:
STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT
I am pleased that the Supreme Court upheld a law that prohibits the abhorrent procedure of partial-birth abortion. Today's decision affirms that the Constitution does not stand in the way of the people's representatives enacting laws reflecting the compassion and humanity of America. The partial-birth abortion ban, which an overwhelming bipartisan majority in Congress passed and I signed into law, represents a commitment to building a culture of life in America.
The Supreme Court's decision is an affirmation of the progress we have made over the past six years in protecting human dignity and upholding the sanctity of life. We will continue to work for the day when every child is welcomed in life and protected in law.
Are you under the misapprehension that late-term abortions are against the law now, dimbulb? Too bad you are incapable of actually comprehending what the decision by the SCOTUS really did. It outlawed ONE TYPE of late-term abortion; the one that is the safest procedure for the woman having it. Late-term abortions are still permitted; the only thing different is that doctors must now use a method that involves using more internal dismemberment of the fetus than the D and X procedure did.
Dewhickey

Falling Waters, WV

#20 Sep 8, 2007
just facts wrote:
<quoted text>You are probley to selfish to think of anyone other than yourself what about the fathers of these babies I guessing it's ok to have your fun with them but they have no rights either how could you ever find a man who wanted to be with a [girl] like you it would probley help if you could find a bible and GOD I'm sure you will answer to him one day about throwing the greatest gift he could ever give you [HE WILL PROBLEY ASK YOU HOW YOU COULD THROW A LIFE HE TRUSTED YOU WITH IN THE TRASH] I sure hope you have a GOOD answer for that one .... God bless your soul
I hope God teaches you how to spell. It's "probably", as in "You probably couldn't learn how to spell if God himself taught you." Get a high school diploma and then come back and try again. I don't bother to listen to idiots.

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