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Why your religion has nothing to do with abortion: One outraged Virginian's perspective

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#679 Dec 12, 2012
LargeLanguage wrote:
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Just what did you teach us sonny? We brits train your troops everyday. The only ones who are equal to us are the Israelites!
Dream on spitty. Israeli Air Force Pilots come to our bases all the time to train with us. Either that or we go to them.

Who did you think taught the Israelis how to fly their F-16s? We did. From whom do you think they learned to fly their A-4s and their F-4s when they bought our surplus around the tail end of Vietnam? From the Americans.

You Brits and your f*cked up Tornadoes spend most of your time behind the power curve, trying to figure out at what configuration to set the wings for maximum combat efficiency when it's time to put the balls to the wall. And you're still using that antiquated jet.

The Brits learned all they know about air combat maneuvering from the Americans. It's only logical you all learned how to be a ground pounder from us as well.
LargeLanguage

Buckley, UK

#680 Dec 12, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
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Dream on spitty. Israeli Air Force Pilots come to our bases all the time to train with us. Either that or we go to them.
Who did you think taught the Israelis how to fly their F-16s? We did. From whom do you think they learned to fly their A-4s and their F-4s when they bought our surplus around the tail end of Vietnam? From the Americans.
You Brits and your f*cked up Tornadoes spend most of your time behind the power curve, trying to figure out at what configuration to set the wings for maximum combat efficiency when it's time to put the balls to the wall. And you're still using that antiquated jet.
The Brits learned all they know about air combat maneuvering from the Americans. It's only logical you all learned how to be a ground pounder from us as well.
No sources? Provide them if you do have them. We brits have too times as much training as you do.

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#681 Dec 12, 2012
LargeLanguage wrote:
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Ignorance is your domain. The Spitfire is renounded for its power.
Boy, you'd better go re-read your history books. Remember, I was flying airplanes, and combat missions before you were itching in your daddy's balls.

The Mustang and the Spitty both had the same engine, until the P-51D was rolled out.

But, fact is the P-51 was the better airplane.
LargeLanguage

Buckley, UK

#682 Dec 12, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
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Boy, you'd better go re-read your history books. Remember, I was flying airplanes, and combat missions before you were itching in your daddy's balls.
The Mustang and the Spitty both had the same engine, until the P-51D was rolled out.
But, fact is the P-51 was the better airplane.
But did you ever train the brits?

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#683 Dec 12, 2012
LargeLanguage wrote:
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No sources? Provide them if you do have them. We brits have too times as much training as you do.
What; we taught you Brits how to do things and you're still asking me to spoon-feed you? You look up your own sources. My source is my time in the military and the thousands of hours of flight experience I have. You won't find that source in Wikipedia, or with Google.

You may have too [sic] times as much training as we do, but that's because it takes you idiots twice as long to actually learn what we do in 1/2 the time. And the fact that not having to go into actual combat does afford more time for training.

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#684 Dec 12, 2012
Game, set, match - CD!!

Hey Orangekitten, a.k.a. PunyLanguage, while I've really enjoyed winning this dick measurement contest hands down, how about we get back to the subject of this thread? I really don't mind schooling you on that subject as well.

Your choice pal.

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#685 Dec 12, 2012
LargeLanguage wrote:
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But did you ever train the brits?
YOu're asking if I personally trained the Brits? The answer is yes.

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#687 Dec 12, 2012
David UK wrote:
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I've been reading about how you yanks ran from Rommel at casserine in WW2. & your troops were useless till the great British infantryman taught em how to stand their ground. And we let you fight a war on without us in Vietnam & and it all goes horribly wrong. despite us Brits showing you how a counter insurgency war could be fought & won in Malaysia,
You lot still got mashed up by an army of brave little farmers. Hang your head in shame. And your so called " special forces" can't do a mission without crashing helicopters and killing civy women. Your green berets were founded by our Royal marine commandos & and Delta force by the SAS. but you should of learned that you can't do shit successfully on your own. and your air force contributed 1 squadron in the battle of Britain. the line, " all the gear but no idea" is used about your forces. Poor yank all talk as usual, so inferior
You've been watching too much 007.

The only thing the Brits have taught us is how to tie a Windsor, and that's because the Puritans brought that knowledge on the Mayflower.

Your Royal Marine commandos didn't do Jack sh*t. The Army Special Forces was founded by General Robert A. McClure, and he was NOT a Royal Marine Commando, but a two star U.S. Army General, attached to the office of psychological warfare. Try again.

Special forces don't fly helicopters or airplanes pinhead; where did you get that line of horse manure? Airplanes and helicopters are composed of hundredths of thousands of moving parts; something is bound to fail at some point. But, even though we crashed a Blackhawk going after Bin Laden, we still achieved our objective and only lost two of the operatives of Seal Team 6. Not even your most distinguished SAS operatives could have done that.

We didn't want you in Vietnam, or in Korea. We didn't need to carry anymore dead weight. Brits learned their lesson about going after a much more highly motivated army in the war of 1812. We learned it with Vietnam. Either way, Brits haven't taught us much more than how to overpay for cars that aren't worth more than a Pinto.

Then again, a man who drives a Rolls or a Bentley does it only for one thing; the cars are p*ssy magnets, and p*ssy is something Brits wouldn't know what to do with, if the b*tch died and will it to them.

Stick to what you know, which is not much more than tea time, and then again, you need Big Ben to remind you when that is.

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#689 Dec 12, 2012
David UK wrote:
<quoted text>Blah blah blah your useless un special forces messed up back in the 79/80 Tehran embassy rescue, " eagles claw" crashed & burned. Mogadishu " crashed & burned" bin laden " crashed & destroyed & seal team 6 get twatted in Afghan. and the latter was a crap pilot not understanding the effects of his downdraught in a walled compound. Not mechanical failure. Your military is trained on the cheap & are not in the same league as our SAS or R.M commandos or the French F.L paras. Now get your arse back in your mums basement & bash your joystick on COD. Your making no progress here son. mind that overhanging gut as you go Cleetus, so inferior
When was the last time you had to put down a chopper or a plane, with only seconds to hit your exact LZ, in a pitch black night, without a landing light or you give up your position, with 12 souls on board???

Even your SAS or RM p*ussies would take a dump in the leg of their trousers.

So the UN f*cked up in Theran and Mogadishu! Big deal. Aren't you Brits part of the UN?

If our military is trained on the cheap; why didn't the SAS, the RMs or the French F.L captured Bin Laden, or Hussein? Why didn't any Brit or member of the French Foreign Legion do anything to prevent the massacre in Russell Square in 2005? With such "superior" intel and abilities, I'm surprised at the utter failure of Britain's finest.
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#691 Dec 13, 2012
The americans may have trained us, but I doubt they did much good. And how come the M1 abrams had over 5000 loses yet ours only had 3?

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#692 Dec 13, 2012
David UK wrote:
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I know mire about the OBL Pakistan mission then you do it seems, your seals built a replica of the OBL compound as SF do, except they built the compound wall with hurricane fence,= no backdraught, come the real mission & this
lousy pilot finds it's all different and can't do the job epic fail.
Ah, the infamous "mock-up" argument. Did you really think this is the first time that line of crap has been brought up?

How many hours of flight experience do you have? In how many aircraft are you type rated? Are you rotary wing or only fixed wing certified? Do you have high altitude endorsement?

Bottom line; could you have flown the helicopter better than the pilot who crashed it and if so, can you prove it by empirical evidence?
David UK wrote:
And your Marines & SF are not as good as ours because they only get a fraction of the training ours get!, any fool yank can just amble in off the street and join the seals, not team 6 I acknowledge. and the excuses you make for that lousy yank pilot being in the pitch black, blah blah, NVG Nuff said.
From my experience as a military aviator, I will tell you that no military aviator expects the mission to go 100% as the training scenario depicted it. Hence the reason why we are taught judgment to improvise and deal with what comes at us, when it does. If the SAS and the RM's have the luxury of combat situations that are 100% equal to their training scenarios, then good for them. But, I know that they can't make that claim.

And, the way I understand it, the SAS' training is about a 20 week program, while BUDS is 28. Further, Seals who are of either the Hospital Corpsman or Naval Special Warfare commands, go through another 26 weeks of training. Moreover, SAS candidates can be as old as 32; Seals applicants cannot be older than 28. So it's understandable why the SAS' training is shorter; more old folks are allowed in and they have less of a country to defend.
David UK wrote:
and our SAS were doing their jobs in Theatre on 7/7 why?, what were yours doing on 9/11.?
What job were they doing; masturbating each other? Why didn't they stop the bombing if they were doing their job? The Russell Square bombing cannot be compared to 9/11, so can it cum face.
David UK wrote:
you dumb yanks let your govt spend all your taxes on the huge military, and you have an inferior product, many of them are a total joke. And you have no healthcare provisions, fools you are.
Do you have any say so on how your "crown" spends your tax dollars? If you do, then you can make that argument.

We like being able to pick and choose our health care providers. Better that than being a marionette of a monarchy and having to respond "how high" when the crown says "jump."
David UK wrote:
And Sadam & bin Laden were American missions, for political reasons.
Actually, only Saddam was a political mission; both times. And, you Brits couldn't play the cowardly game and back off in '91. Tony Blair made sure his allegiance with Dubya was not compromised.
David UK wrote:
American pilots are known for dropping bombs on friendly forces & are amongst the worse in the west, why do you think the US now trains mire drone operators then pilots?, it's to get that lousy yank out of the cockpit . Fact. Sorry Cleetus, you fail again
It's easy to say American pilots drop bombs on the wrong targets more than anyone else, especially when you're conveniently leaving out the fact that American pilots also fly more missions than RAF pilots do. BTW, drone operators are pilots.

Fail? That's the Brits' M.O. More often than not because Brits run like cheap whores. But, in the case of the Cossacks, because you Brits, the so called aristocrats, are nothing more than cold-hearted bastards who deserve no mercy.

If I was still active, I'd drop a Mark 84 on Buckingham palace without losing a wink of sleep.

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Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#695 Dec 13, 2012
David UK wrote:
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Same amount of sleep I lost after your lame SF missed 9/11 Cleetus.
You mean you actually agree with me on what causes you no lack of sleep? I do believe there's hope for you.
David UK wrote:
Did your ex wife bin you for a better model? Probably & that's why your so bitter ya crank
Actually, and not that it matters any, I left her. 3 years later I took our child away from her. Imagine that if you can fathom it, since I'm certain Brit men don't have the balls to call a dead beat mom a dead beat mom and take your kids away from her. Oh, no; and miss tea time? Impossible!!

Bitter? Nah...that's British tea.
LargeLanguage

Chester, UK

#697 Dec 13, 2012
David UK wrote:
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To be honest pal I couldn't give a shit about any military fools, they're never the brightest member if society, so you enjoy your pissing contest. I'm not playing anymore.
These little idiot thinks the SAS training is relatively small. I've heard they undergo severe training. And actually older people joining the SAS doesn't mean the training should be easier. It is the older persons responsibilty to decide whether to join up or not. So there is no reason to make the training easier. Chances are this little bitch never has kids and he chose a wife out of his own foolish decisions and now hates himself for it. Foolish little rebel.

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Boca Raton, FL.

#700 Dec 13, 2012
David UK wrote:
<quoted text>To be honest pal I couldn't give a shit about any military fools, they're never the brightest member if society, so you enjoy your pissing contest. I'm not playing anymore.
What's the matter David; baby got his feelings hurt and now has to run home to mommy?

So you were being a total hypocrite when you were praising the SAS guys; huh? How Brit of you!!

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#701 Dec 13, 2012
LargeLanguage wrote:
These little idiot thinks the SAS training is relatively small. I've heard they undergo severe training. And actually older people joining the SAS doesn't mean the training should be easier. It is the older persons responsibilty to decide whether to join up or not. So there is no reason to make the training easier. Chances are this little bitch never has kids and he chose a wife out of his own foolish decisions and now hates himself for it. Foolish little rebel.
Don't get your panties in a wad now puny language. Go home and have sex with your blow up doll. She won't complain about your shortcoming.

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#704 Dec 13, 2012
happy underclass wrote:
<quoted text>Not really I just feel sorry for you to be honest
Well that's a waste of a perfectly good feeling. Unless, of course, you think I care how you feel.

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#705 Dec 13, 2012
David UK wrote:
<quoted text>Soldiers are no different to plumbers or mechanics, it's just a job they choose to do. They're nothing special. Brits or Yanks. Risking death in Afghan for crap money, I'd never do it, I feel I've got more sense you see.
The guys that put on a uniform, Brits or Yanks, do it for more than just money. Some do it as a means to an end; some do it as a way of getting an education; others do it for the thrill of fulfilling a prejudice and/or a morbid desire to face the end of their lives, or get as close to it as they can.

I did it for the thrill of having one of the most desirable jobs in the world; being a fighter pilot.

Truth be told, when the engines spool down and the chocks, and the "remove before flight" banners were in, we were just a bunch of infantile egomaniacs whom our government trusted with a 40 million dollar aircraft and a couple of millions worth of ordinances.

But, when it was time to burn the blades out of the fans, and go buster to our grid sector, we did it better than anyone else, and we did it with pride.

As far as risking death, well being Jewish, for me death is just a part of living.

When I got to the gulf in '91, first thing our squadron CO had us write, was our obituaries. The rationale was that once we clued into the fact that life will end at some point, losing it was no longer something to fear. So we'd do our jobs better. It worked.

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#707 Dec 13, 2012
David UK wrote:
<quoted text>Fair enough, soldiers today are volunteers not conscripts so i don't buy this current Brit & yank cult of hero worship of a man who steps on an IED in Afghan. His choice to be there, no ones trying to invade England so they shouldn't even be there. The Muslims never attacked either of our nations prior to Iraq & Afghanistan. So these soldiers are just making our countries less safe not more. That's my point
Actually, his choice to join. Not his choice of where he's sent. While those who join in wartime are almost guaranteed a tour in country, where they go while in country is still not their choice. And if you think about it, they're more heroes for voluntarily giving up life or limbs, for the sake of people who won't appreciate their sacrifice.

I may have a bias in the subject, but even a non-biased reasonable third person is more likely than not to agree with me.

Were citizens of free countries. And freedom, isn't free. It costs a lot to maintain.

By the way, the Muslims have had their sights on the US since the Iran/Iraq war. England is no threat to the Muslims.

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#710 Dec 14, 2012
David UK wrote:
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Bearing in mind thud is the Internet, I don't believe your claims of bring a fighter pilot one bit. You've probably read a couple if books & seen a documentary or 2 & now feel the need to be what your not. Another epic fail yank. And back to your do called SF ha what a fcuking joke, a man go from civilian to navy seal in 26 wks. To be SAS you must already be full trained active infantry & then 6 months selection, and then the training starts if you make it
Wait; are you the same guy who earlier said he doesn't care about those military folks? Why the sudden change of heart; are you PMSing? Go get some Midol.

First, BUDS training is 28 weeks, with an additional 26 if the seal belongs to the Hospital Corpsman or Naval Special Warfare Commands. For being a Brit, you certainly don't comprehend English very well.

Second, who told you that a civilian can be a Seal after 28 weeks? A civilian must first become a sailor by going to boot camp for 10 weeks, then be on active duty for a period of time (usually 2 - 4 years) before applying to BUDS.

And really; you saying you don't believe I flew fighters is of no consequence to me. You believe or not, whatever you want. That's as much as you'll ever be able to do. I know the truth and you'll never get to my level in that regard.

Have a great weekend wannabe!

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#711 Dec 14, 2012
David UK wrote:
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Our RM commandos are all trained as good or better then your seals not counting team 6. Your marines are not in the same league as ours, yours are just a standard infantry formation.now you can go and pretend to be a Delta operative next pal.
You can't count as military training the time your RM commandos, or your Marines spent playing with GI Joes, bud.

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