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Catholic Church Waging War on Women and Gays

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“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

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#254525 May 19, 2014
Tre H wrote:
Yep. It's so young, it doesn't even have a birth date yet, so it's age is LESS THAN ZERO. Show me the law that says a fetus has the same rights as a born person.
Unborn Victims of Violence Act

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if he or she is injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".
[wiki]

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#254526 May 19, 2014
Tre H wrote:
Wow. Well, the first step is admitting you have a problem. Even GOD doesn't "control people to make them behave morally" but you somehow believe you're qualified? Please see a therapist. Soon.
You don't have to be perfect to be a good example. I don't see what's wrong with forcing people to behave morally, we have laws to punish immoral acts. Morality is everyone's business.

Since I can't control people to make them behave morally, I ask them. It's good to know your limitations. Loving life means not murdering your unborn baby but putting it up for adoption instead. Maybe you'll decide to adopt it yourself.

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Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

#254527 May 19, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
A feminist argument against gay marriage. Since husbands have the traditional role of providers, allowing same sex marriage is like allowing segregation against women based on prejudice, discrimination and inequality causing harm to women. When women lose the sole right to marry men they gain only the 'right' to segregate themselves voluntarily.
Keep marriage one man and one woman for men's and women's rights by holding the value every child has the right to be raised by his mother and father.
I don't even know where to start with how unbelievably idiotic this crap is.

It seems you are against "gay marriage" [sic] because allowing it deprives women of the "right" to marry these gay men who would otherwise somehow be available because women should have the RIGHT to them being available??

Allowing gay couples to marry causes women to lose their rights? WTF?

And this is somehow a "feminist" argument? LORD, JEZUS, the Catholic school really messed up your education.

Do you not understand that both men and women can be gay?

Do you not understand that allowing consenting adults to marry the person of their choice does not infringe on anybody's right to marry the person of THEIR choice... unless you're advocating that some people should have to marry someone of someone elses choice?

Do you not understand that your argument makes no sense whatsoever?

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Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

#254528 May 19, 2014
The Worlds Biggest Lie wrote:
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Pornography is the war on women. Lesbianism plays a key role in the destruction of motherhood, a concept that has been championed since the beginning of time. Lides is all for the sexualization of everything and anything along with the subversion of all of society, especially when it comes to little children.
Lides' most fond moments in the last 100 years is the Wiemar Republic and Bolshevik Revolution. He ignores all such eVil from that time period except for what Hitler did. In fact, he is a bit of a brow beating extortionist when it comes to the Holocaust. Norman Finkelstein and Jonas Alexis would eat Lides for lunch. That is the confounding truth that he can never deny or accept. He calls others paranoid despots, and yet has his own love and fetish for psychopaths like Marx, Trotsky, Lenin, and Stalin. Just to name a few. An over educated modern day sheister and charlatan who can never be wrong, in his own mind of course.
:o)
Well, at least your name is appropriate.

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Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

#254529 May 19, 2014
Wondering wrote:
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Is there anywhere that doesn't exist?
Do state laws apply equally to all citizens of the state?
Can anyone just marry anyone in any of the 50 states?
What is your point? That the status quo is correct until you decide it's not correct?

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Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

#254530 May 19, 2014
Hobble wrote:
<quoted text>
Your his and hers mentality and contemporary CULTure are destroying America.
I was not aware that "America" is another word for "archaic sexist misogynistic nonsense."

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Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

#254531 May 19, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Unborn Victims of Violence Act
The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes a child in utero as a legal victim, if he or she is injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb".
[wiki]
So, you interpret this law as saying that a fetus has the same rights as a born person?

And, in a sense, since you are anti-choice, you actually believe a fetus should have some rights that supersede the rights of pregnant women?

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Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

#254532 May 19, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>You don't have to be perfect to be a good example. I don't see what's wrong with forcing people to behave morally, we have laws to punish immoral acts. Morality is everyone's business.
Since I can't control people to make them behave morally, I ask them. It's good to know your limitations. Loving life means not murdering your unborn baby but putting it up for adoption instead. Maybe you'll decide to adopt it yourself.
Wow... you keep coming up with some real gems.

"I only wish I could control people to make them behave morally, but I can't. "

And now...

"I don't see what's wrong with forcing people to behave morally"

You should put THOSE on your anti-choice bumper stickers. At least they're more honest.

Obviously, people can have very different ideas of what is "moral." That's what's wrong with it.

We also have laws that say that women in most circumstances have the right to CHOOSE whether they want to give birth or not. I for one, consider it "moral" to allow HER to make that CHOICE, and not YOU.

I don't even know why I'm responding to your over the top nonsense at all. People who refer to abortion as "murdering babies" or 'murdering children" are not rational or mature enough to have a rational, mature discussion with. You're just another sanctimonious, self righteous, pseudo christian nutjob.

“Crybaby men are such a bore”

Since: Mar 14

The wild wild north

#254533 May 20, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>You don't have to be perfect to be a good example. I don't see what's wrong with forcing people to behave morally, we have laws to punish immoral acts.
Says you and those who live by Sharia law. They also believe in forcing people to behave morally based on religion. Not surprisingly the female suffers the brunt of their laws. Not unlike what you suggest Brian. Stand tall, be proud.

“Crybaby men are such a bore”

Since: Mar 14

The wild wild north

#254534 May 20, 2014
Deeper wrote:
<quoted text>
And what about the "Father to be"? Does he not have a say in all this?
And what about him? What are you suggesting pertaining to "having a say"?

“Crybaby men are such a bore”

Since: Mar 14

The wild wild north

#254535 May 20, 2014
Estelle wrote:
<quoted text>
Morgana9Rules....they only care for the unborn not the women. They just can't deal with that concept it should be the female's decision to terminate the pregnancy it's not up to them or us.
They have that same mentality of those people no matter what their priests did and even he was convicted for the crimes of abuse they still will not support but blame the victims of these priests.
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The problem they have with women is cultural based on religion. Men are head of the household and women are their property. All the instruction needed can be found in one book with all of its contradictions.

1 Timothy 2

11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 13For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

Some people are so brainwashed that they cannot accept that authority figrures (especially religious) can do wrong. Easier to blame the victim than to accept reality.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#254536 May 20, 2014
Morgana9Rules wrote:
Says you and those who live by Sharia law. They also believe in forcing people to behave morally based on religion. Not surprisingly the female suffers the brunt of their laws. Not unlike what you suggest Brian. Stand tall, be proud.
^^^This is an example of a religion waging war on women and gays; not the Catholic Church. The problem with the left, since they believe in utopian values, they can't distinguish good from bad.

I pity them.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#254537 May 20, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>^^^.. The problem with the left, since they believe in utopian values, they can't distinguish good from bad.
I pity them.
Explain, in detail, just how Democrats believe in "Utopian values", and define precisely what those are. Then, prove that all on the left have no ability to understand good from bad.

Provide studies, statistics, and verifiable information to support this broad and odd claim.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#254538 May 20, 2014
Quest wrote:
Explain, in detail, just how Democrats believe in "Utopian values", and define precisely what those are. Then, prove that all on the left have no ability to understand good from bad. Provide studies, statistics, and verifiable information to support this broad and odd claim.
One example is Democratic Party Attorney Generals who refuse to enforce and defend the law because their values are different from the sworn oath to uphold law and the will of the people. These leftists create invalid court cases, where there is no opposition to the plaintiffs. We see the result where the court has no jurisdiction because the parties aren't in dispute, as in California's Proposition 8 case.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#254539 May 20, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
One example is Democratic Party Attorney Generals who refuse to enforce and defend the law because their values are different from the sworn oath to uphold law and the will of the people. These leftists create invalid court cases, where there is no opposition to the plaintiffs. We see the result where the court has no jurisdiction because the parties aren't in dispute, as in California's Proposition 8 case.
Brian, they refuse to defend unconstitutional laws. You say they are disobeying their oath, others would say they are rigorously applying their oath of office.

These laws are quickly falling down, and you are defending the loosing side. You might as well try to save the Titanic with a bailing can.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#254540 May 20, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
Since I can't control people to make them behave morally, I ask them. It's good to know your limitations. Loving life means not murdering your unborn baby but putting it up for adoption instead. Maybe you'll decide to adopt it yourself.
And yet, you, yourself, list a series of conditions under which you find abortion to be acceptable. This isn't about morality, Brian. It is about trying to control people and make them play by your moral rules. You are,truly, revolting.

Why do you hate the US Constitution?
Why do you hate freedom?
Why do you hate the free exercise of religion?
Why won't you ever answer simple and direct questions?
Serfdom

Dalton, MA

#254541 May 20, 2014
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
And yet, you, yourself, list a series of conditions under which you find abortion to be acceptable. This isn't about morality, Brian. It is about trying to control people and make them play by your moral rules. You are,truly, revolting.
Why do you hate the US Constitution?
Why do you hate freedom?
Why do you hate the free exercise of religion?
Why won't you ever answer simple and direct questions?
Blah, blah, blah, the antichrist rambles on.

The US constitution is a mere political document for Marxists like yourself.
The 5th amendment has been done away with by a little used word found in my handle above.
Your religion continues to rage on in the Middle East and around the world. You use America as some sort of focal point under the guise of "Freedom and Democracy"
You make simple and direct questions complicated for it is one thing to be sophisticated, and another to be complicated.
Be sure to pass my posts around accordingly.
Marxist traitor.
5th Amendment

Dalton, MA

#254542 May 20, 2014
Freedom is destroyed by serfdom.

“Crybaby men are such a bore”

Since: Mar 14

The wild wild north

#254543 May 21, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>^^^This is an example of a religion waging war on women and gays; not the Catholic Church. The problem with the left, since they believe in utopian values, they can't distinguish good from bad.
I pity them.
BS Brian. The RCC does not allow women in the governance. That says it all. Nothing more needs to be asked or said.

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Since: Dec 08

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#254544 May 21, 2014
Right, Sharia law is exactly like the Roman Catholic Church not allowing women in the governance; nothing more needs to be said. This is the morality you get from the left, the murder of homosexuals and women is justified by their perception of the RCC. And you wonder why America embraces conservatism?

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