Is there a middle on abortion?

[LiIrabbitfoofoo]

C Hamilton wrote:

<quoted text>Thanks for the non-answer.
<quoted text>I'd feel sorry for you too if I didn't believe you enjoyed wallowing in ignorance.

That isn't all it revels in wallowing in. Seems hubby left her alone again for his "special friend" tonite. That or the monkey got sick again.

[Bitner]

chooselife wrote:

<quoted text>In the case of rape doesn't the woman always have the right to say no even if she let things go a little ways? But you want to deny this woman the right to say no when she wanted to. You are also putting complete stock in the word of a greedy killer than a mother.

So, you don't see a danger to the patient in stopping an abortion in the middle?

Really, ChoosesToLie, stay away from the exhaust fumes. Based upon the stupidity of this post, you only have one brain cell left.

And just when I think you can't get any dumber!

[Bitner]

chooselife wrote:

<quoted text>So you are saying you trust the word of a cold blooded killer instead of a woman who turned pro life. You do that just because of your love for an abortionist than that of a baby and its mother.

No, I believe the doctor over a woman who changed her mind too late, who now wants to blame others for her own actions and make them pay.

[chooselife]

sassy JM wrote:

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lol exactly chooselife!
Isn't it amazing how they SUPPORT the woman going in for the abortion or the abortion Dr or the staff UNTIL they change their ways and expose the evil and deception that they were part of?
They REFUSE to hear what really happens in those clinics during an abortion, RIGHT from the horses mouth "because" they turn their life around and realize how evil they were for participating in it?
Shows the lying nature of these pro-aborts.They believe what they want and when they are shown PROOF and TRUTH right from their former pro-aborts mouths, they turn on them.
BTW...how are you my friend? How was your Thankdsgiving?

Doing good as always. How are you? You know; everyday is thanksgiving day! We have the gift of life, baptism in the Lord, we can be fed everyday if we want, God can not be out done. God bless you for your untiring efforts in defending His precious little ones.

[LiIrabbitfoofoo]

chooselife wrote:

<quoted text>So you are saying you trust the word of a cold blooded killer instead of a woman who turned pro life. You do that just because of your love for an abortionist than that of a baby and its mother.

This is TRULY funny coming from the scumbag that asked "Who tempted who?" when told of a child's rape by a priest - then said "The father and brother were doing him, and the clergy was the last straw." when told of that childs rape. You then you went on to claim that you'd allow your children (or in your case grandkids) around KNOWN pedophiles, but wouldnt be far.

[Truthin]

BobsLaw666 wrote:

<<No vows before "god" at all. >>
One of our pals at the courthouse married us. No mention of any deities was ever made.. Nothing about "holy matrimony." Nothing about any requirement that the marital contract included any procreation.
We wrote our own vows:
Clerk of court: Do you, Bobby, promise to love Sweetie and treat her with honesty and respect?
Me: I sure do!
Clerk of court: Do you, Sweetie, promise to love Bobby and treat him honesty and respect?
Sweetie: I sure do!
Clerk of Court: Do you both promise to stay together as long as it is still fun?
Both of us: Yup!
And do you both accept each other "as is?"
Both of us: Yup!
Clerk of the Court: By the authority vested in me by the state, you are now lawfully married to each other. Enjoy your new marriage and best wishes to both of you! Go ahead and kiss each other now!

Sounds just right. I didn't need to be scared or threatened into keeping my marriage vows, and IMO it's more binding to say them to MY SPOUSE and NOT some invisible guy who is being called in to "watch over" me to see if I comply.

[chooselife]

Laudatio wrote:

<quoted text>planned parenthood cockroaches are everywhere, we need to eradicate them.

Another incident involves a teenager in a second case against Planned Parenthood Southwest Ohio Region.

In that case, the teen accuses the abortion business of covering up her sexual victimization by her father.
http://www.valuesvoternews.com/2009/08/three-...

[Truthin]

sassy JM wrote:

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Yes, I already said that.
Uh, but thanks for repeating me?
lol

Yep, we celebrate BIRTHdays, because THAT is when we count our life as beginning. We don't celebrate CONCEPTIONdays because that is NOT when we count our life as beginning.

And you just agreed.

[chooselife]

LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:

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This is TRULY funny coming from the scumbag that asked "Who tempted who?" when told of a child's rape by a priest - then said "The father and brother were doing him, and the clergy was the last straw." when told of that childs rape. You then you went on to claim that you'd allow your children (or in your case grandkids) around KNOWN pedophiles, but wouldnt be far.

Oh, look at what your child abusing Planned parenthood is up to.
http://www.valuesvoternews.com/2009/08/three-...

[Truthin]

sassy JM wrote:

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Oh, your marriage is valid according to the law.
Good chance that it could be valid before God too if you were to go to your church and take those same vows before God.
WHO said otherwise?

Before who?

lol

[Bitner]

chooselife wrote:

<quoted text>Oh, look at what your child abusing Planned parenthood is up to.
http://www.valuesvoternews.com/2009/08/three-...

Note that this article doesn't say how old the girl was at the time, just that they started having sex when she was thirteen. In Ohio, if a girl is 16 or older, it's not illegal for someone over 18 to have sex with her. Therefore, it wouldn't be child abuse. Funny, how these anti-choice propaganda sites leave information out, isn't it? Also, how is it the clinic's fault if they were given false information?

[grumpy]

sassy JM wrote:

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what?
Did you just alter and add things to my original post? wth?

I didn't alter your post. I only added added my rebuttal to what you posted. I'll do it over and make it more clear:
sassyJM wrote:

hmmmm....here's MY idea on how to handle unplanned pregnancies.
Keep sex within a marriage, where both parents take an oath before God to become ONE and to love each other til death do us part, in sickness and in health, rich or poor,etc..., and to LOVINGLY accept children as a gift from him.
grumpy:
There was no such ceremony in the Bible.

Sassy"
AND if they can't afford a child right now, or they are having some medical condition, then...they can...ABSTAIN during their fertile time.
grumpy:
Is that what your church teaches you? I thought that would come under the heading of Planned Parenthood.

Sassy:
ABSENCE makes the heart grow fonder :)
grumpy:
That comes under the heading of "The triumph of hope over experience"'

sassy:
God doesn't approve of pre-marital sex and due to the RESULTS of MOST abortions being done on young, single girls, and with 1-4 teenagers having an STD, and with all the thousands upon thousands of people with HIV/AIDS,...I wonder why he wanted it that way.
grumpy:
What does your church teach young girls about that? Young girls who have STD didn't make the boy use a condom.

Sassy:
The moment of pleasure is not always worth the risk of the consequences. IF you can't LEARN self-control then at least practice it during your fertile times....you know...the time of the month that a woman can conceive? Yep, THAT time. It CAN be done, It HAS been done, and if you don't want to be pregnant,
grumpy:
Your church is against that.

Sassy:
TA DA!!
See, now NOBODY gets killed via abortion, NOBODY gets AIDS/HIV or STD'S if we do things GODS way. He created us
grumpy:
No. That's more likely if the boy uses a condom.

[chooselife]

Bitner wrote:

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Note that this article doesn't say how old the girl was at the time, just that they started having sex when she was thirteen. In Ohio, if a girl is 16 or older, it's not illegal for someone over 18 to have sex with her. Therefore, it wouldn't be child abuse. Funny, how these anti-choice propaganda sites leave information out, isn't it? Also, how is it the clinic's fault if they were given false information?

You're always fast to stick up for the evils of Planned parenthood and to put down the young girls that are hurt by them. There wouldn't be a suit if the girl was of age. Duh!!

[pbfa]

chooselife wrote:

<quoted text>You're always fast to stick up for the evils of Planned parenthood and to put down the young girls that are hurt by them. There wouldn't be a suit if the girl was of age. Duh!!

Here, choozezpedos, this is how you document REAL abuse. You don't use some silly PLM driven site filled with half truths. You use a fully documented, researched commission.
http://www.childabusecommission.ie/rpt/
This documents the RCCult's abuse of children in Ireland, with the collusion of the pimps-in-dresses choozie & his pedo-priest-pals like so much.
Between Ireland and the Bridgeport documents, there are disgusting, well documented proofs of choozezpedophile's cult's collusion in child rape. He can whine about the allegations against PP all he likes, but it doesn't distract from the horror perpetrated by his brothel of a 'church'.

[Bitner]

chooselife wrote:

<quoted text>You're always fast to stick up for the evils of Planned parenthood and to put down the young girls that are hurt by them. There wouldn't be a suit if the girl was of age. Duh!!

I don't stick up for the evils of anyone. Unlike you, who would stick up for a pedophile priest, as long as he said he was sorry to another priest.

Are you telling me that no one ever lies for a lawsuit? LOL, yeah right. And why didn't you address my other point? How is it the clinic's fault if they are given false information?

[Pup C]

chooselife wrote:

<quoted text>In the case of rape doesn't the woman always have the right to say no even if she let things go a little ways? But you want to deny this woman the right to say no when she wanted to. You are also putting complete stock in the word of a greedy killer than a mother.

CL, in ANY case of rape, clearly the woman had NO say!!
Any of her say was taken when the perp violated her.

Have you EVER heard of a rape case where the woman said 'yes'??
No woman is guilty of 'letting things go a little ways' in any rape case.

RAPE is RAPE, which is about a sick sence of control and domination, not getting a little too hot and bothered with the hanky panky.

[sassy JM]

LiIrabbitfoofoo wrote:

<quoted text>That isn't all it revels in wallowing in. Seems hubby left her alone again for his "special friend" tonite. That or the monkey got sick again.

Wait a minute here......Is there "suddenly" something wrong with a gals man cheating on her? I thought that it was A-OKAY to cheat on a loved one as long as they come back to you at night with a "gift" for you.

Right cham? Maybe my hubby was hanging out with one of polys left overs.

lol

{{giggle}}

[sassy JM]

Bitner wrote:

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So, you don't see a danger to the patient in stopping an abortion in the middle?
Really, ChoosesToLie, stay away from the exhaust fumes. Based upon the stupidity of this post, you only have one brain cell left.
And just when I think you can't get any dumber!

What's the "middle" of the abortion. WHO really knows how far along the Dr was.

Like I said yesterday, many girls have come forward(google it if you want to)to say that they went on the table and just when the butcher was about to butcher their baby to death, they cried and screamed that they changed their minds or they were having second thoughts and the Dr and staff told them to sit still and shut up.

Bottom line bit, NO MEANS NO. It is force to abort when a woman says stop.

[sassy JM]

Truthin wrote:

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Yep, we celebrate BIRTHdays, because THAT is when we count our life as beginning. We don't celebrate CONCEPTIONdays because that is NOT when we count our life as beginning.
And you just agreed.

Once again, thanks for confirming what I said to Bob.

BIRTHday is when you are born.

If you think about it, it is a recent thing that we are able to "see" in the womb and caculate the exact gestation of our baby. BEFORE that, we had no TRUE idea of how far along we were. We could never be sure the exact moment of when conception takes place, even now with all todays technologies, so how could we POSSIBLY celebrated "conception day"?

Hence, the reason we celebrate the "birth" of our baby. I had due dates and had to plan a 2 week earlier c=section,so even then it was not a natural moment that my baby was born.

See now?

[sassy JM]

chooselife wrote:

<quoted text>Oh, look at what your child abusing Planned parenthood is up to.
http://www.valuesvoternews.com/2009/08/three-...

UNFREAKINBELEIVABLE!!!!!!!!!!

once AGAIN, PP gets exposed.

But, let us sweep this info under the rug and focus on how bad the RCC is instead.

Right?