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Limiting choice or protecting life? Abortion-safety bill stirs deep passions in Huntsville

There are 174 comments on the Alabama Live story from Feb 7, 2013, titled Limiting choice or protecting life? Abortion-safety bill stirs deep passions in Huntsville. In it, Alabama Live reports that:

HUNTSVILLE, Alabama - A bill making its way through the Alabama House that would require physician involvement in all abortions is stirring deep passions in Huntsville, home to one of the state's five remaining abortion clinics.

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“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#122 Mar 7, 2013
Dan wrote:
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I don't speak for anyone but myself.
I haven't mentioned "baby" nor "murder" on this thread. I've never typed the phrase "abortion is murder" on any thread.
Deflection. I didn't say on this thread, nor did I say anything about murder in my post.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#123 Mar 7, 2013
Dan wrote:
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I don't "want her" to take the responsibility. She has it. I can't shift it from her. It's biology, not my wishes.
Bull feces. It's now technologically possible for a man to carry a pregnancy to term.

She doesn't 'have it' anymore, and the ball is just as much in your court as it is in hers.

"Pick it up. Put it in. Be a man." -Madeline Stowe, as Cody Zamora, in "Bad Girls".

I've always wanted to use that line....

:)
Dan

Omaha, NE

#124 Mar 7, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Deflection. I didn't say on this thread, nor did I say anything about murder in my post.
Right.

Shovelhead did.

My mistake.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#125 Mar 7, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>Bull feces. It's now technologically possible for a man to carry a pregnancy to term.
She doesn't 'have it' anymore, and the ball is just as much in your court as it is in hers.
"Pick it up. Put it in. Be a man." -Madeline Stowe, as Cody Zamora, in "Bad Girls".
I've always wanted to use that line....
:)
Only possible, barely, and not via intercourse. You can keep the pregnant man thing going if you want, but it's a non-starter.

She still "has it".

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#127 Mar 7, 2013
Ink wrote:
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They are dying now with legal abortions. If those women had chosen to give their babies life, they would be alive now.
If your aunt had a schlong, she'd be your uncle.

Even the most minor surgery is dangerous. Sometimes it kills. Legal abortion is still a helluva lot safer than 'praying' for an ectopic pregnancy to resolve itself, or obtaining an illegal abortion in somebody's kitchen.

But of course, you already knew that.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#129 Mar 7, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Why go overseas, Morgana?
You haven't made mention of the fatality in Maryland and it's been all over the news. Why not?
I consider it tragic that the woman in Maryland died. If she could have been saved when suffering but denied it would have been equal to the circumstances in Ireland but it is not the same circumstances. In Ireland the catholic hospital sat back and watched her die and suffer even though she was miscarrying and could have been saved by having an abortion, which they refused to do.

The bottom line is zero respect for women and outright fetus worship. Makes the catholics giddy with glee.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#130 Mar 7, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Why should I care more than the woman who you claim "doesn't want to be pregnant" yet becomes pregnant?
Silly shovelhead. You want everyone else to be responsible.
It already appears you care more than the woman involved so buck up buddy. You want control...you got it. Shoe not so comfortable now?

No, Shovel wants you to allow the woman responsibility without your two cents. Abortion is taking responsibility, just not the responsibility "you" want them to take.

Shoe not so comfortable Dan.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#131 Mar 7, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Only possible, barely, and not via intercourse. You can keep the pregnant man thing going if you want, but it's a non-starter.
She still "has it".
Look at the bright side Dan, now men can do something instead of nothing for 9 months. You should be astatic with anticipation! Just think of all the men who can save the unwanted babies and put their money where their mouth is! Fabulous news!
someoneuknow

Ravenna, OH

#132 Mar 8, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Deflection. I didn't say on this thread, nor did I say anything about murder in my post.
That's because YOU'RE a murderer. You killed your baby at 27 weeks, I remember and you lie! Keep denying it, one day everyone will know. Admit it killer.
someoneuknow

Ravenna, OH

#133 Mar 8, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Look at the bright side Dan, now men can do something instead of nothing for 9 months. You should be astatic with anticipation! Just think of all the men who can save the unwanted babies and put their money where their mouth is! Fabulous news!
Ahhhhh morgana! Bull dyke! Can't spell much can ya? Did you get through elementary school sweetheart? Astatic? Did ya mean ecstatic? LMAO, dumb dyke.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#134 Mar 8, 2013
someoneuknow wrote:
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That's because YOU'RE a murderer. You killed your baby at 27 weeks, I remember and you lie! Keep denying it, one day everyone will know. Admit it killer.
Sorry, but no. I've never killed anyone. I've never had an abortion. And YOU are the one lying.

Get a life.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#135 Mar 8, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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Sorry, but no. I've never killed anyone. I've never had an abortion. And YOU are the one lying.
Get a life.
I was wondering about that. I've "known" you for several years and I never saw you post anything even remotely close.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#136 Mar 8, 2013
Susanm wrote:
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I was wondering about that. I've "known" you for several years and I never saw you post anything even remotely close.
I have no idea who this person normally posts as. Someone I've pissed off here on Topix, obviously, lol.
Obamanation

Mobile, AL

#137 Mar 8, 2013
someoneuknow wrote:
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Ahhhhh morgana! Bull dyke! Can't spell much can ya? Did you get through elementary school sweetheart? Astatic? Did ya mean ecstatic? LMAO, dumb dyke.
She obviously hates men.
EreTheSunRises

Grovetown, GA

#138 Mar 8, 2013
I'm happy about the bill, but I won't be satisfied until abortion is completely eradicated from the face of the planet.

Call me crazy. I've heard it all.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#139 Mar 9, 2013
EreTheSunRises wrote:
I'm happy about the bill, but I won't be satisfied until abortion is completely eradicated from the face of the planet.
Call me crazy. I've heard it all.
Well good. Hopefully when abortion is the only way to save the life of the mother...including ectopic pregnancy it will land on your doorstep and not the doorstep of those who actually love, and care for their mothers, sisters etc. while considering them persons in their own right. Yeah, you are a crazy and insignificant in the life of millions of women/girls. DEAL.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#140 Mar 9, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Well good. Hopefully when abortion is the only way to save the life of the mother...including ectopic pregnancy it will land on your doorstep and not the doorstep of those who actually love, and care for their mothers, sisters etc. while considering them persons in their own right. Yeah, you are a crazy and insignificant in the life of millions of women/girls. DEAL.
Etopic pregnancy would always be considered an emergency medical condition and steps would be taken to save the woman's life. That's very different than a inconvenient baby on the way.
EreTheSunRises

Grovetown, GA

#142 Mar 9, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Well good. Hopefully when abortion is the only way to save the life of the mother...including ectopic pregnancy it will land on your doorstep and not the doorstep of those who actually love, and care for their mothers, sisters etc. while considering them persons in their own right. Yeah, you are a crazy and insignificant in the life of millions of women/girls. DEAL.
The only situation where such a thing is necessary is indeed ectopic pregnancy. However, the intention is not to harm the child. In such a situation, both mother and baby are put at risk, and there is no getting around a death. The baby is removed from the woman's body and (usually) dies, not because that was the intention, but because it is better to save one life than to lose two. It's important to remember that this is NOT abortion. Also, some babies have survived ectopic pregnancies. Just saying.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#143 Mar 9, 2013
EreTheSunRises wrote:
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The only situation where such a thing is necessary is indeed ectopic pregnancy. However, the intention is not to harm the child. In such a situation, both mother and baby are put at risk, and there is no getting around a death. The baby is removed from the woman's body and (usually) dies, not because that was the intention, but because it is better to save one life than to lose two. It's important to remember that this is NOT abortion. Also, some babies have survived ectopic pregnancies. Just saying.
No it is not. You are 100% wrong and more than likely the product of brainwashed misogynistic religious misogyny. Are you a doctor? Of course not. Would you let a woman die if she needed an abortion to save her life? Of course you would. Why? Because you think little of women and believe they deserve to die when they can be save. You are sick, how unfortunate for any females around you.

http://blogs.babycenter.com/mom_stories/woman...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excommunication_...
EreTheSunRises

Grovetown, GA

#144 Mar 10, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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No it is not. You are 100% wrong and more than likely the product of brainwashed misogynistic religious misogyny. Are you a doctor? Of course not. Would you let a woman die if she needed an abortion to save her life? Of course you would. Why? Because you think little of women and believe they deserve to die when they can be save. You are sick, how unfortunate for any females around you.
http://blogs.babycenter.com/mom_stories/woman...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excommunication_...
1. Consider using a different word than "misogyny", sweetie. Calling me a woman hater does not prove anything (I mean seriously, how could I be so severe on my own sex?). Also. I'm pretty sure supporting a woman enough to let her keep her child, and even welcoming into your home and giving her food, clothing, and shelter for as long as 4 years (that's the longest I've heard) is hardly a display of woman hatred.

2. "No it is not." LOL. Really? Show me how you know then!

3. Are YOU a doctor, madam? Because I am currently in my first year of nursing school (majoring in OBGYN studies, hopefully)!:)

4. Savita Halappanavar never requested an abortion. Don't believe everything you watch on CNN or read on the Huffington Post. ; )An abortion would not have reduced the risk to Savita's life. It would have compounded the risk. It would likely have made death flat-out inevitable. Savita requested an assisted delivery of a miscarrying fetus. What Savita requested was perfectly permissible under both Irish law and Catholic doctrine. What Savita requested was not an abortion.

5. I'm a woman, sweetheart.:) A classy, conservative 19 year old Southern Belle who fights for the protection of women and babies alike.:)

6.(You're gonna love this one, oh feminist one) Men (of every race) deserve equal say on abortion. Oh what? You think they're "privileged cisgendered misogynists"? Oh, I laugh. Only pro-abortion men can have a say, is it? LOL.

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