A 'Choose Death' License Plate?

Dec 13, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: La Shawn Barber's Corner

Last week, a federal judge ruled that North Carolina can't issue license plates that read "Choose Life," because the state legislature failed to approve a plate that reflects a different point of view.

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How about, "Mind your own business, moron?"
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That's what I said to the last person who said 'I will pray for you."

I also told them I didn't want God to think I knew her.

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Don't worry; god only judges you by the people you've friended on facebook.
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That's what I said to the last person who said 'I will pray for you."
I also told them I didn't want God to think I knew her.
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Twenty-seven states have pro-life plates, which sell very well. Another 15 states are working to get pro-life plates. Four states have pro-death plates, which sell predictably abysmally, especially when measured against pro-life plate sales. The Pennsylvania "Choose Life" license plate outsells the Pennsylvania Planned Parenthood license plate 37 to 1. Hawaii has sold 1,218 pro-life plates through April 2012. The Planned Parenthood pro-death plate in Hawaii has essentially croaked; three plates remain on Hawaiian cars. Through Sept. 2011, Montana pro-life plates have outsold the Planned Parenthood "Pro Family, Pro Choice" plate 3,947 to 84, a 35 to 1 margin.

The total reported Choose Life license plate sales/renewals nationally are 764,177; the plates have raised $16,315,998 as of 9-17-2012.

No wonder pro-aborts are desperate for some complaisant judges to squelch pro-life plate sales. Whenever the playing field is level, pro-aborts get smoked.

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Why should the state be giving any money at all to groups whose intent is to work against the established rights of women?

Maybe we should be like PETA and dump red paint on cars with anti-choice plates?
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Twentyt-seven states have pro-life plates, which sell very well. Another 15 states are working to get pro-life plates. Four states have pro-death plates, which sell predictably abysmally, especially when measured against pro-life plate sales. The Pennsylvania "Choose Life" license plate outsells the Pennsylvania Planned Parenthood license plate 37 to 1. Hawaii has sold 1,218 pro-life plates through April 2012. The Planned Parenthood pro-death plate in Hawaii has essentially croaked; three plates remain on Hawaiian cars. Through Sept. 2011, Montana pro-life plates have outsold the Planned Parenthood "Pro Family, Pro Choice" plate 3,947 to 84, a 35 to 1 margin.
The total reported Choose Life license plate sales/renewals nationally are 764,177; the plates have raised $16,315,998 as of 9-17-2012.
No wonder pro-aborts are desperate for some complaisant judges to squelch pro-life plate sales. Whenever the playing field is level, pro-aborts get smoked.
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cpeter1313 wrote:
Why should the state be giving any money at all to groups whose intent is to work against the established rights of women?
Maybe we should be like PETA and dump red paint on cars with anti-choice plates?
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The money -- which individual pro-life license plate buyers provide, not the state -- goes to fund pregnancy resource centers that inform women of alternatives to abortion, something Big Abortion's "counselors" sedulously avoid. Unlike perpetual-mendicant pro-aborts and Planned Parenthood, 46 percent of whose budget comes from taxpayers (only 21 percent comes from donors), pro-lifers actually fund their cause instead of whining piteously for government to keep them afloat.

By all means, let North Carolina's legislature approve a pro-death plate. Then we'll see once again the difference between pro-life doers and pro-abort talkers: pro-life North Carolinians will buy thousands of the pro-life plates while pro-abort North Carolinians will spring for about 14 pro-death plates.

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The buyers don't provide the plate, the state does. CPC's don't do anything more than funnel pregnant women into welfare and give them lies about how raising a kid is all puppy dogs and sunshine. CPC's are also usually religion-ased, something the state has no business supporting. If you people "fund your cause", then do so without involving the state.

Abortion providers do give alternatives if the woman requests them, but they also respect women as being able to make their own decisions.
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The money -- which individual pro-life license plate buyers provide, not the state -- goes to fund pregnancy resource centers that inform women of alternatives to abortion, something Big Abortion's "counselors" sedulously avoid. Unlike perpetual-mendicant pro-aborts and Planned Parenthood, 46 percent of whose budget comes from taxpayers (only 21 percent comes from donors), pro-lifers actually fund their cause instead of whining piteously for government to keep them afloat.
By all means, let North Carolina's legislature approve a pro-death plate. Then we'll see once again the difference between pro-life doers and pro-abort talkers: pro-life North Carolinians will buy thousands of the pro-life plates while pro-abort North Carolinians will spring for about 14 pro-death plates.
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The appropriate counter to "choose life" is "choose death". They want to use the terms "choice" and "respect" to mask what they're doing. Sure, women should have a choice in many things, but killing a child that was conceived through consensual sex isn't one of them. It's proof of the poor decision making skills in humans these days, sex leads to children, this fact hasn't changed since the dawn of man. Don't want kids? Don't have sex. If you claim that the abortion was due to financial reasons, why the hell is a poor person procreating. There are two reasons for abortions in which I understand- rape and health of the mother, and morning sickness doesn't count.

I can't wait for a reply to what I just said. I bet I get called a name.

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Don't worry; god only judges you by the people you've friended on facebook.
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Yes, because god only wants the "right" people. Not some one with a lot of losers that you have friended.. LOL

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Just Saying wrote:
The appropriate counter to "choose life" is "choose death". They want to use the terms "choice" and "respect" to mask what they're doing. Sure, women should have a choice in many things, but killing a child that was conceived through consensual sex isn't one of them. It's proof of the poor decision making skills in humans these days, sex leads to children, this fact hasn't changed since the dawn of man. Don't want kids? Don't have sex. If you claim that the abortion was due to financial reasons, why the hell is a poor person procreating. There are two reasons for abortions in which I understand- rape and health of the mother, and morning sickness doesn't count.
I can't wait for a reply to what I just said. I bet I get called a name.
**YAWN** really?? Seriously? That is your line of argument.. A retread of antichoice talking points.

Roe V Wade makes it clear that the woman makes the final decision on whether to keep, Abortion or with the father input if he is even present adopt out.

Further Roe V Wade come with limitations and responsibilities. Do not believe me Google it.

But to continue. The Decision makes one thing very clear. The woman herself must own that decision. Must be responsible for any of the three legal decisions that has been afforded to her under Roe v Wade.

Those are facts and not talking points.

Oh one other truth and fact. Any fantasies you might harbor of seeing Roe V Wade over turned. Will remain a fantasy.
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I understand that you enjoy that aspect of such, there are many laws that I agree with- as in there are probably many laws that you'd disagree with me upon; I never said that I hope anything is overturned. I think our country has bigger fish to fry than the taboo topics of our era. What's done is done with the law, but I still have the right to express how I feel about a topic.

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Just Saying wrote:
I understand that you enjoy that aspect of such, there are many laws that I agree with- as in there are probably many laws that you'd disagree with me upon; I never said that I hope anything is overturned. I think our country has bigger fish to fry than the taboo topics of our era. What's done is done with the law, but I still have the right to express how I feel about a topic.
Express it, yes. Just as I have the right to counter your argument and what you expressed.

And you had bothered to read I qualified the sentence.(Any fantasies you {might} harbor of seeing Roe V Wade over turned.)

I didn't say that you did or had such fantasies.. Only [might] have had on this issue.

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Since "choose life" is itself a lie, the counter would not be to "choose death." The PLM doesn't believe in choice at all; they want women to be punished for having sex. Nor are they interested in life; they just want to ensure that pregnancy carries to term. Right after birth, they don't give a damn if the mother dies; the woman has served her only function in life. They don't care about the life of the born child, either.

Why does the fetus have more rights to the woman's body than she does--rights not granted by the constitution?

Could there be a more clueless statement than "why the hell is a poor person procreating"?
Just Saying wrote:
The appropriate counter to "choose life" is "choose death". They want to use the terms "choice" and "respect" to mask what they're doing. Sure, women should have a choice in many things, but killing a child that was conceived through consensual sex isn't one of them. It's proof of the poor decision making skills in humans these days, sex leads to children, this fact hasn't changed since the dawn of man. Don't want kids? Don't have sex. If you claim that the abortion was due to financial reasons, why the hell is a poor person procreating. There are two reasons for abortions in which I understand- rape and health of the mother, and morning sickness doesn't count.
I can't wait for a reply to what I just said. I bet I get called a name.

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Just Saying wrote:
The appropriate counter to "choose life" is "choose death". They want to use the terms "choice" and "respect" to mask what they're doing. Sure, women should have a choice in many things, but killing a child that was conceived through consensual sex isn't one of them. It's proof of the poor decision making skills in humans these days, sex leads to children, this fact hasn't changed since the dawn of man. Don't want kids? Don't have sex. If you claim that the abortion was due to financial reasons, why the hell is a poor person procreating. There are two reasons for abortions in which I understand- rape and health of the mother, and morning sickness doesn't count.
I can't wait for a reply to what I just said. I bet I get called a name.
You're correct and the appropriate counter to "Choose Life" would be "Choose death."

However, in the context of how the term "Choose Life" is being used, you must consider that the broadness of the statement "choose life" leaves a reasonable person with a plethora of "choices" to make. To which extent is a person expected to "choose life" or which life is the person expected to choose?

The Talmud teaches (yes I'm Jewish) that the life of the mother is ALWAYS superior to the life of the unborn, because the unborn depends on the mother for its own survival, and if at some point, regardless of the stage of the pregnancy, if the fetus threatens the mother's life, it must be aborted. If need be, removed from the womb "limb by limb." IOW, no mommy, no fetus. As such, there's no way a reasonable person can choose the life of an organism that depends 100% on its "host" over that of the "host."

Further, if I walk into my home to find a man trying to rape my wife, or my 9 year old daughter; is there "choice" for me as to which life I'm going to choose to spare? Hell no! I'm going to kill the attacker and I'm going to make sure his mommy will not recognize him at his funeral. Choose life? I would have. I would have chosen my wife's life, or my daughter's life. As I would have PROUDLY chosen death for the attacker, in my hypothetical scenario.

Above all, the license plate of "choose life" actually advocates for choice. Otherwise, it would not use "choose" to precede "life."

The fact remains that all of you pro-lifers are very vocal and very quick to call those who advocate for choice a "pro-abort" or "pro-death," when fact is, being pro-choice is only about leaving the decision of whether to remain pregnant to the woman. And you know how I know that? I'm a father of two.

Go find yourself a better argument.

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