9 reasons abortion MUST remain legal.
IRYW

Allentown, PA

#1107 Apr 22, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
It a philosophical treatise, with regards to biological events, written by a university professor of law. It not a claim of any type.
Yet you posted it in response to my point that in the endless cycle of life there is no beginning and end, as opposed to your obsession with conception. You can't even stay on point for one or two posts in a row. Poe or moron.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1108 Apr 22, 2013
IRYW wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet you posted it in response to my point that in the endless cycle of life there is no beginning and end, as opposed to your obsession with conception. You can't even stay on point for one or two posts in a row. Poe or moron.
I did no such thing. I said that their are endless cycles of life. And that each cycle of life and death begins with fertilization and ends with death. The "s" at the end of a word makes the word a plural. Which is different from the singular form of the word, which does not have an "s" at the end.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>Life is an ongoing process, and fertilization is a simple point in the cycle of life and death. Fertilization being the beginning point of each cycle. Death being the ending point of each cycle. Endless cycles of life.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#1109 Apr 22, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
I did no such thing. I said that their are endless cycles of life. And that each cycle of life and death begins with fertilization and ends with death. The "s" at the end of a word makes the word a plural. Which is different from the singular form of the word, which does not have an "s" at the end.
<quoted text>
You've also said abortion kills the 'women' in utero.

Thousands of discarded in-vitro generated embryos, sinking to the bottoms of sewers nationwide: women or not?
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1110 Apr 22, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>You've also said abortion kills the 'women' in utero.
Thousands of discarded in-vitro generated embryos, sinking to the bottoms of sewers nationwide: women or not?
Only the female embryos are women. Everyone should know that much.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#1111 Apr 22, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
Only the female embryos are women. Everyone should know that much.
But where have you indicated they are a subject for your concern?

Have you ever protested their destruction, the way you protest women's right to make our own medical choices??
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1112 Apr 22, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>But where have you indicated they are a subject for your concern?
Have you ever protested their destruction, the way you protest women's right to make our own medical choices??
A loaded question is a question which contains a controversial or unjustified assumption ( e.g., a presumption of guilt).
Aside from being an informal fallacy depending on usage, such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda.
MBA

Montpelier, VT

#1113 Apr 22, 2013
pbfa wrote:
That works for you, but the rest of the world is a little healthier, and actually has partners of the opposite sex.
So, are you saying it is unhealthy to have a partner of the same sex?

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#1114 Apr 22, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
A loaded question is a question which contains a controversial or unjustified assumption ( e.g., a presumption of guilt).
Aside from being an informal fallacy depending on usage, such questions may be used as a rhetorical tool: the question attempts to limit direct replies to be those that serve the questioner's agenda.
Oh come on.... That's not even a good try.

It's a valid question: have you ever protested the disposal of embryos remaining from the IVF process?

Yes, or no.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1115 Apr 22, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>Oh come on.... That's not even a good try.
It's a valid question: have you ever protested the disposal of embryos remaining from the IVF process?
Yes, or no.
Have I protested pregnant women that are casualties of war? Have I protested pregnant women sent to prison on drug charges and beaten to death? There are many ways to kill an embryo unrelated to abortion. This is an abortion forum. Your question is irrelevant to the topic of abortion, therefore not valid.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#1116 Apr 23, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
Have I protested pregnant women that are casualties of war? Have I protested pregnant women sent to prison on drug charges and beaten to death? There are many ways to kill an embryo unrelated to abortion. This is an abortion forum. Your question is irrelevant to the topic of abortion, therefore not valid.
Not being one of your cult members, I don't follow you around gathering the turds of your wisdom...but I seriously doubt you've EVER protested pregnant women becoming casualties of war, or pregnant women being sent to prison on drug charges OR beaten to death. You're more about protesting our sexual and reproductive independence, than our deaths from anything. Including gestation.

Frankly, I'm pretty sure you throw a party when one of us dies from gestation.

I do know that you don't give a rat's hind portion about embryos, though. What you care about is controlling the wombs of women.

Tough luck, Nazi.
Suck it.
Ocean56

AOL

#1117 Apr 23, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
Not being one of your cult members, I don't follow you around gathering the turds of your wisdom...but I seriously doubt you've EVER protested pregnant women becoming casualties of war, or pregnant women being sent to prison on drug charges OR beaten to death. You're more about protesting our sexual and reproductive independence, than our deaths from anything. Including gestation.
Frankly, I'm pretty sure you throw a party when one of us dies from gestation.
I do know that you don't give a rat's hind portion about embryos, though. What you care about is controlling the wombs of women.
Tough luck, Nazi.
Suck it.
^5, Shovel. I couldn't agree more!:-)
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1118 Apr 23, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>Not being one of your cult members, I don't follow you around gathering the turds of your wisdom...but I seriously doubt you've EVER protested pregnant women becoming casualties of war, or pregnant women being sent to prison on drug charges OR beaten to death. You're more about protesting our sexual and reproductive independence, than our deaths from anything. Including gestation.
Frankly, I'm pretty sure you throw a party when one of us dies from gestation.
I do know that you don't give a rat's hind portion about embryos, though. What you care about is controlling the wombs of women.
Tough luck, Nazi.
Suck it.
You don't the right to kill people just because you chose to get pregnant. Not even your own babies. Rot in Hell, Nihilist.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#1119 Apr 23, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have the right to kill people just because you chose to get pregnant. Not even your own babies. Rot in Hell, Nihilist.
I've never killed a person. I have had an abortion to end an ectopic pregnancy, which, had it been implanted correctly, and lived to be born, would have been my beloved child...however, I lived. And went on, got pregnant 7 more times, and am blessed to be a mother of two, who also lived.

Having lost 6 wanted pregnancies to miscarriage, and one grown son to a brain aneurism, I've already been to hell, Nazi.

Now I'm back.

Suck it.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1120 Apr 23, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>I've never killed a person. I have had an abortion to end an ectopic pregnancy, which, had it been implanted correctly, and lived to be born, would have been my beloved child...however, I lived. And went on, got pregnant 7 more times, and am blessed to be a mother of two, who also lived.
Having lost 6 wanted pregnancies to miscarriage, and one grown son to a brain aneurism, I've already been to hell, Nazi.
Now I'm back.
Suck it.
If you had an abortion that means you killed a person. So what if you did it to protect your life. That has always been legal and is pointless to this discussion.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#1121 Apr 23, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
If you had an abortion that means you killed a person. So what if you did it to protect your life. That has always been legal and is pointless to this discussion.
The only thing pointless to this discussion, Nazi, is continuing it with you.

Suck it.
Why do we put up with thi

Ringgold, GA

#1122 May 4, 2013
When women open their legs so loosely, that's the "choice" they get. Who stands up for the babies rights? This is no different than a woman going in a school and shooting innocent kids. Same thing, no difference and they should be prosecuted in the same way.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#1123 May 4, 2013
Why do we put up with thi wrote:
When women open their legs so loosely, that's the "choice" they get. Who stands up for the babies rights? This is no different than a woman going in a school and shooting innocent kids. Same thing, no difference and they should be prosecuted in the same way.
Thanks for contributing.

How many women have gone into a school, and shot innocent kids?

Just checking....
abortion

Los Angeles, CA

#1124 May 10, 2013
i HAVE NO EXPEIRENCE BUT WOULD YOU WANT TO TAKE THE LIFE AWAY FROM SOMTHING YOU MADE: YOUR OWN BLOOD, SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO CARRY AND LOVE ITS CALLED ADOPTION IF YOU DONT APRECIATE THE BABBY THE BABBY THEIRS OTHER PEOPLE THAT KILL TO HAVE ONE AND RAISE ONE

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#1125 May 10, 2013
abortion wrote:
i HAVE NO EXPEIRENCE BUT WOULD YOU WANT TO TAKE THE LIFE AWAY FROM SOMTHING YOU MADE: YOUR OWN BLOOD, SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO CARRY AND LOVE ITS CALLED ADOPTION IF YOU DONT APRECIATE THE BABBY THE BABBY THEIRS OTHER PEOPLE THAT KILL TO HAVE ONE AND RAISE ONE
Condemning the fertile to be incubators, in service to the infertile, isn't part of my agenda.

Why is it part of yours?

Since: Jun 08

Location hidden

#1127 May 13, 2013
abortion wrote:
i HAVE NO EXPEIRENCE BUT WOULD YOU WANT TO TAKE THE LIFE AWAY FROM SOMTHING YOU MADE: YOUR OWN BLOOD, SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO CARRY AND LOVE ITS CALLED ADOPTION IF YOU DONT APRECIATE THE BABBY THE BABBY THEIRS OTHER PEOPLE THAT KILL TO HAVE ONE AND RAISE ONE
Some women don't want to continue a pregnancy. It's not your business nor mine why.

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