9 reasons abortion MUST remain legal.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#1067 Mar 25, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>No. Abortion is only legal for jews. Which is besides the point. Since preventing someone from killing a baby with abortion isn't forcing the mother to gestate.
If the woman no longer wants to be pregnant, and someone prevents her from obtaining this legal medical procedure, they are, in effect, forcing her to gestate.

And Hitler is dead, Nazi Germany no longer exists, and their laws no longer apply. Any woman of any ethnicity can abort her pregnancy if she chooses to.

Sorry about your luck, ET...but not very.
bored

Princeton, WV

#1068 Mar 25, 2013
Ok i am done arguing here you wanna compare a baby to a fly a cow and a disease thats just stupid and an aborton is murder how would you feel if your mother thought of you like that you wouldnt be here today its awful that some people can think of a baby that way
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1069 Mar 25, 2013
dedbebbies wrote:
<quoted text>If the woman no longer wants to be pregnant, and someone prevents her from obtaining this legal medical procedure, they are, in effect, forcing her to gestate.
And Hitler is dead, Nazi Germany no longer exists, and their laws no longer apply. Any woman of any ethnicity can abort her pregnancy if she chooses to.
Sorry about your luck, ET...but not very.
Thats your opinion. Everyone has their own opinion about when a war ends. In 1939, the Nazis brought in laws that did away with this permissiveness, flatly forbidding abortion to everyone except Jews. Since no one truly knows when a war ends, the laws of nazi germany still stand.
It is impossible to force women to gestate. A woman is either gestating or isn't. It is impossible to force someone to do something that that they are already doing. Only a womans own reproductive system can gestate no one can gestate for her or force her to gestate. A persuasive definition is a form of definition which purports to describe the 'true' or 'commonly accepted' meaning of a term, while in reality stipulating an uncommon or altered use, usually to support an argument for some view, or to create or alter rights, duties or crimes. The terms thus defined will often involve emotionally charged but imprecise notions, such as "freedom", "terrorism", "democracy", etc. In argumentation the use of a stipulative definition is an example of the definist fallacy.
zeccec

Pittsburgh, PA

#1070 Mar 25, 2013
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Sex should be banned

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#1071 Mar 25, 2013
bored wrote:
Ok i am done arguing here you wanna compare a baby to a fly a cow and a disease thats just stupid and an aborton is murder how would you feel if your mother thought of you like that you wouldnt be here today its awful that some people can think of a baby that way
Boo hoo.

Bye bye.......

Don't let the door smack your head on the way out.
Grace

Europe

#1072 Apr 13, 2013
If you were aborted who will be supporting abortion as you are doing?

“I'm here with bells on.”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#1073 Apr 14, 2013
Grace wrote:
If you were aborted who will be supporting abortion as you are doing?
I don't know - but if your aunt had balls, he'd be your uncle.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1074 Apr 19, 2013
chooselife wrote:
laws against abortion do not kill women,
women who try to abort or doctors who hurt mame or kill the woman are responsible for those deaths.
Its like they're out poaching and get struck by lightning and killed or maim. So they cry and whine about poaching being illegal and how poaching kills women. Their befuddled minds actually believe poaching killed them, and not the lightning.
Ocean56

AOL

#1075 Apr 20, 2013
bored wrote:
Ok i am done arguing here you wanna compare a baby to a fly a cow and a disease thats just stupid and an aborton is murder how would you feel if your mother thought of you like that you wouldnt be here today its awful that some people can think of a baby that way
Not all women like babies or want to be mothers. Don't like that fact? Too bad; it isn't up to you to make sexual and reproductive choices for anyone but yourself.

The ONLY person who decides what to do about a pregnancy is the WOMAN who is pregnant, not you or anyone else. Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required, which means a woman can reject it if she doesn't want the hardships and responsibilities that it involves.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#1076 Apr 20, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
Its like they're out poaching and get struck by lightning and killed or maim. So they cry and whine about poaching being illegal and how poaching kills women. Their befuddled minds actually believe poaching killed them, and not the lightning.
I take it you alien life forms impregnate yourselves?
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1077 Apr 20, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Not all women like babies or want to be mothers. Don't like that fact? Too bad; it isn't up to you to make sexual and reproductive choices for anyone but yourself.
The ONLY person who decides what to do about a pregnancy is the WOMAN who is pregnant, not you or anyone else. Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required, which means a woman can reject it if she doesn't want the hardships and responsibilities that it involves.
Women give themselves abortions? You're insane.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#1078 Apr 20, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>Women give themselves abortions? You're insane.
Some do - more will, if it becomes illegal.

It's often a fatal enterprise for the women, so frankly, given your irrational and obsessive hatred of Earth women, I'm surprised you're not in favor of it.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1079 Apr 20, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>Some do - more will, if it becomes illegal.
It's often a fatal enterprise for the women, so frankly, given your irrational and obsessive hatred of Earth women, I'm surprised you're not in favor of it.
Millions of women are killed every year with abortion, simply because abortion is legal and condoned. In fact, because of gender selective abortion, most of the people killed with abortion are women. Abortion is always a fatal enterprise for somebody. The only way reduce the number of women killed with abortion is to reduce access to abortion. Far fewer women will die from abortion if abortions are illegal. Not so much because the appeal of gender selective abortion will be reduced, rather because the incidences of abortions will be reduced.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#1080 Apr 20, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
Millions of women are killed every year with abortion, simply because abortion is legal and condoned. In fact, because of gender selective abortion, most of the people killed with abortion are women. Abortion is always a fatal enterprise for somebody. The only way reduce the number of women killed with abortion is to reduce access to abortion. Far fewer women will die from abortion if abortions are illegal. Not so much because the appeal of gender selective abortion will be reduced, rather because the incidences of abortions will be reduced.
'Woman' is the term for a human female who has begun to menstruate. Many human females do not live to see that stage of development. Only one in five fertilized human embryos survives to implant in the uterus, and only one in three of those is gestated to term, even in the absence of surgical or chemical abortion. Abortion is self-defense.

And you, my dear, are a freeeeeeek.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1081 Apr 20, 2013
dedbebbies wrote:
<quoted text>'Woman' is the term for a human female who has begun to menstruate. Many human females do not live to see that stage of development. Only one in five fertilized human embryos survives to implant in the uterus, and only one in three of those is gestated to term, even in the absence of surgical or chemical abortion. Abortion is self-defense.
And you, my dear, are a freeeeeeek.
The term woman is also sometimes used to identify a female human, regardless of age. Your notion that females must be menstruating to use a woman's restroom is absurd. Since the only requirement to use a woman's restroom is to be female, the only requirement to be a woman must be to be a female. A woman is a female human.
You can't fertilize an embryo any more than, you can fertilze an adult. You are insane.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#1082 Apr 20, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
The term woman is also sometimes used to identify a female human, regardless of age. Your notion that females must be menstruating to use a woman's restroom is absurd. Since the only requirement to use a woman's restroom is to be female, the only requirement to be a woman must be to be a female. A woman is a female human.
You can't fertilize an embryo any more than, you can fertilze an adult. You are insane.
She should have said 'fertilized ova'.

But otherwise, that poster is still correct. Even little boys use the woman's restroom, until they're old enough to go in a public restroom without mom's supervision. Are they 'women' too?

You're insipid.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1083 Apr 20, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>She should have said 'fertilized ova'.
But otherwise, that poster is still correct. Even little boys use the woman's restroom, until they're old enough to go in a public restroom without mom's supervision. Are they 'women' too?
You're insipid.
You're being absurd. A boy using a restroom intended for women does not make him a woman. Just because a rat can crap in a woman's restroom does not mean rats are women. But the fact that woman's restrooms are intended to be used by female humans of any age does mean society perceives all female humans to be women. Once a womans ovum is fertilized, it is no longer an ovum, it is a new and unique human life. That's how people are created, whether you like it or not.
"Zygote. This cell, formed by the union of an ovum and a sperm, represents the beginning of a human being. The common expression 'fertilized ovum' refers to the zygote."
[Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects. 4th edition. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1993, p. 1]

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#1084 Apr 20, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>You're being absurd. A boy using a restroom intended for women does not make him a woman. Just because a rat can crap in a woman's restroom does not mean rats are women. But the fact that woman's restrooms are intended to be used by female humans of any age does mean society perceives all female humans to be women. Once a womans ovum is fertilized, it is no longer an ovum, it is a new and unique human life. That's how people are created, whether you like it or not.
"Zygote. This cell, formed by the union of an ovum and a sperm, represents the beginning of a human being. The common expression 'fertilized ovum' refers to the zygote."
[Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects. 4th edition. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1993, p. 1]
Women have the right to obtain an abortion, regardless of the opinions of others. That's how the law reads, whether you like it or not.

And all females are not women.
Words have meanings here on Earth, ET.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1085 Apr 20, 2013
dedbebbies wrote:
<quoted text>Women have the right to obtain an abortion, regardless of the opinions of others. That's how the law reads, whether you like it or not.
And all females are not women.
Words have meanings here on Earth, ET.
No, only human females are women.
Laws don't establish rights. Laws can't establish rights. Human rights are inherent and universal, and exist with or without laws or governments, whether you like it or not.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#1086 Apr 20, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>No, only human females are women.
Laws don't establish rights. Laws can't establish rights. Human rights are inherent and universal, and exist with or without laws or governments, whether you like it or not.
Once more, for the alien life form:

Not all human females are women.
Words have meanings on Earth.
Laws recognize rights, restrict rights, and define/ provide punishment for crimes.

Abortion is legal in the United States, and will remain so.

If human rights were universal, they would be universally recognized.

They are not.

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