9 reasons abortion MUST remain legal.
TheRealTruth

United States

#838 Oct 23, 2012
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>Melanie, the vast majority of women gestate and raise their children. Abortion is already on the decline, due to education and common sense. The number of women who 'abort with reckless abandon', is fewer than 1% of women who abort at all. To remove the choice from all women in order to prevent the actions of a very few, is ridiculous and punitive, not to mention Unconstitutional. We live in a country which recognizes a woman's right to personal risk assessment and self-defense, even when she is pregnant. I'd like to keep it that way.
Undeniably true.
Melanie

Saint Paul, MN

#839 Oct 24, 2012
Simply put a woman should act responsibly or or learn responsibility the hard way. If a woman is acting responsibly and following the precautionary measures and still finds herself pregnant there are other choices and a lot of people who cannot have children that would jump at the opportunity to raise the child. I feel that the entire scenario should be known and the choice made in combination of the woman and her well informed doctor. Something should be in place to see that a woman is not recklessly, continously getting pregnant and then aborting...this is not only ridiculously callous and irresponsible, but ALSO it is a health concern for the woman's body as well...this being noted it would be unethical of the doctor to preform a procedure repeatedly and as a result be the cause of purposeful harm to the woman's body at the very least.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#840 Oct 24, 2012
Melanie wrote:
Simply put a woman should act responsibly or or learn responsibility the hard way. If a woman is acting responsibly and following the precautionary measures and still finds herself pregnant there are other choices and a lot of people who cannot have children that would jump at the opportunity to raise the child. I feel that the entire scenario should be known and the choice made in combination of the woman and her well informed doctor. Something should be in place to see that a woman is not recklessly, continuously getting pregnant and then aborting...this is not only ridiculously callous and irresponsible, but ALSO it is a health concern for the woman's body as well...this being noted it would be unethical of the doctor to preform a procedure repeatedly and as a result be the cause of purposeful harm to the woman's body at the very least.
If you want to consider yourself a brood mare for the infertile, be my guest. Then again, there are probably really good reasons some folks can't conceive, chief among them being that they would make terrible parents. I feel that fetus sniffers like you should mind their own business, and stay out of the affairs of others - that whole 'privacy' thing, you know....

Women have the same rights to personal risk assessment and self defense that men do.
Freaking deal with it.
Aboudy

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#841 Oct 25, 2012
Abortion should always be a women's choice regadless the situation.
Melanie

Saint Paul, MN

#842 Oct 25, 2012
Well, I would just like to know exactly what a fetus has done to you that you feel that they deserve the death penalty for simply existing?

I see that you are now resorting to name calling...hmmm must have ran out of intelligent things to say....do you have children? I certainly hope not with your view point they are fending for themselves. It is beyond my scope of fathom to understand anyone that has children could ever think of allowing such a thing to happen unless it was an extreme circumstance.
Ocean56

AOL

#843 Oct 26, 2012
Melanie wrote:
Simply put a woman should act responsibly or or learn responsibility the hard way. If a woman is acting responsibly and following the precautionary measures and still finds herself pregnant there are other choices and a lot of people who cannot have children that would jump at the opportunity to raise the child. I feel that the entire scenario should be known and the choice made in combination of the woman and her well informed doctor. Something should be in place to see that a woman is not recklessly, continously getting pregnant and then aborting...this is not only ridiculously callous and irresponsible, but ALSO it is a health concern for the woman's body as well...this being noted it would be unethical of the doctor to preform a procedure repeatedly and as a result be the cause of purposeful harm to the woman's body at the very least.
Simply put:

1. NO woman has to gestate a pregnancy she never wanted in the first place just because you say she "should."

2. NO woman has to be a brood mare for the infertile just because you say she "should."

3. Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required or obligatory, even if a pregnancy happens. A woman can opt OUT of motherhood if she wants nothing to do with pregnancy or children.

4. All your anti-choice "should's" don't make any difference to a woman who DOESN'T want to be pregnant. Which means I don't have to run MY life by YOUR anti-choice beliefs. Deal with it.
Ocean56

AOL

#844 Oct 26, 2012
Melanie wrote:
Well, I would just like to know exactly what a fetus has done to you that you feel that they deserve the death penalty for simply existing?
I have no idea who you're replying to, since you provided no previous quote, but I'll give you my answer anyway.

If it isn't YOUR pregnancy, it isn't your decision. Simple as that.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#845 Oct 26, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Simply put:
1. NO woman has to gestate a pregnancy she never wanted in the first place just because you say she "should."
2. NO woman has to be a brood mare for the infertile just because you say she "should."
3. Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required or obligatory, even if a pregnancy happens. A woman can opt OUT of motherhood if she wants nothing to do with pregnancy or children.
4. All your anti-choice "should's" don't make any difference to a woman who DOESN'T want to be pregnant. Which means I don't have to run MY life by YOUR anti-choice beliefs. Deal with it.
Another mindless sychophant kowtowing to the depravity of blood-crazed homicidal tyrants.
Kowtow, which is borrowed from kòu tóu in Mandarin Chinese, is the act of deep respect shown by kneeling and bowing so low as to have one's head touching the ground.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#846 Oct 26, 2012
Melanie wrote:
Well, I would just like to know exactly what a fetus has done to you that you feel that they deserve the death penalty for simply existing?
I see that you are now resorting to name calling...hmmm must have ran out of intelligent things to say....do you have children? I certainly hope not with your view point they are fending for themselves. It is beyond my scope of fathom to understand anyone that has children could ever think of allowing such a thing to happen unless it was an extreme circumstance.
I aborted an ectopic pregnancy, which allowed me to live to be a mother of two. What the embryo would have 'done to me' was rendered me dead. As I said, abortion is self-defense. I stand by that assertion.

When I resort to name calling, especially in your case, it's because I 'ran out' of other intelligent participants in the conversation. For your edification, a 'fetus sniffer' is one whose nose is so far up the vaginas of pregnant women, one can sniff the fetuses.

The description fits you perfectly.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#847 Oct 26, 2012
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>I aborted an ectopic pregnancy, which allowed me to live to be a mother of two. What the embryo would have 'done to me' was rendered me dead. As I said, abortion is self-defense. I stand by that assertion.
When I resort to name calling, especially in your case, it's because I 'ran out' of other intelligent participants in the conversation. For your edification, a 'fetus sniffer' is one whose nose is so far up the vaginas of pregnant women, one can sniff the fetuses.
The description fits you perfectly.
99% of abortions have nothing to do with self-defense, and have everything to do with the depraved indifference to the lives of others. Hatemongering bigot

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#848 Oct 26, 2012
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
99% of abortions have nothing to do with self-defense, and have everything to do with the depraved indifference to the lives of others. Hatemongering bigot
Prove it, zef.

Unless you are the pregnant woman in question, it's not your call whether or not her decision to abort is done in self-defense. Feel free to attempt gestation of every pregnancy you conceive, however, since you are completely within your rights to gestate even the one which kills you.

Have a day.
know it all

Langley, KY

#849 Oct 26, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
If I'm not the woman who is pregnant, you are correct. Only the woman who is pregnant decides if she will or will not continue the pregnancy.
Personally, I am very grateful for the availability of reliable contraception which has kept me pregnancy-FREE for the last 15+ years. I'm DONE with the whole procreation thing, and I so love NOT being pregnant.
you are so stupid WHY DO WANT TO MUDER BABIES?
know it all

Langley, KY

#850 Oct 26, 2012
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>I aborted an ectopic pregnancy, which allowed me to live to be a mother of two. What the embryo would have 'done to me' was rendered me dead. As I said, abortion is self-defense. I stand by that assertion.
When I resort to name calling, especially in your case, it's because I 'ran out' of other intelligent participants in the conversation. For your edification, a 'fetus sniffer' is one whose nose is so far up the vaginas of pregnant women, one can sniff the fetuses.
The description fits you perfectly.
U MURDERED SOMEONE
know it all

Langley, KY

#851 Oct 26, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Simply put:
1. NO woman has to gestate a pregnancy she never wanted in the first place just because you say she "should."
2. NO woman has to be a brood mare for the infertile just because you say she "should."
3. Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required or obligatory, even if a pregnancy happens. A woman can opt OUT of motherhood if she wants nothing to do with pregnancy or children.
4. All your anti-choice "should's" don't make any difference to a woman who DOESN'T want to be pregnant. Which means I don't have to run MY life by YOUR anti-choice beliefs. Deal with it.
Have FUN Answering to GOD for YOUR STUPID MISTAKES GET ON BIRTHCONTROL AND USE PROTECTION
know it all

Langley, KY

#852 Oct 26, 2012
Aboudy wrote:
Abortion should always be a women's choice regadless the situation.
NO it shouldnt because that is MURDER and if you use PROTECTION it would not have happend u stupid dummy
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#853 Oct 26, 2012
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>Prove it, zef.
Unless you are the pregnant woman in question, it's not your call whether or not her decision to abort is done in self-defense. Feel free to attempt gestation of every pregnancy you conceive, however, since you are completely within your rights to gestate even the one which kills you.
Have a day.
Your mindless hatemongering, and crass disregard for the lives of others is an affront to humanity.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#855 Oct 26, 2012
DanielleCT wrote:
1. Laws against abortion kill women.*To prohibit abortions does not stop them. When women feel it is absolutely necessary, they will choose to have abortions, even in secret, without medical care, in dangerous circumstances. In the two decades before abortion was legal in the U.S., it's been estimated that nearly a million women per year sought out illegal abortions. Thousands died. Tens of thousands were mutilated. All were forced to behave as if they were criminals.*
2. Legal abortions protect women's health.* Legal abortion not only protects women's lives, it also protects their health. For tens of thousands of women with heart disease, kidney disease, severe hypertension, sickle-cell anemia and severe diabetes, and other illnesses that can be life-threatening, the availability of legal abortion has helped avert serious medical complications that could have resulted from childbirth. Before legal abortion, such women's choices were limited to dangerous illegal abortion or dangerous childbirth.*
3. A woman is more than a fetus.* Some people argue these days that a fetus is a "person" that is "indistinguishable from the rest of us" and that it deserves rights equal to women's. On this question there is a tremendous spectrum of religious, philosophical, scientific, and medical opinion. It's been argued for centuries. Fortunately, our society has recognized that each woman must be able to make this decision, based on her own conscience. To impose a law defining a fetus as a "person," granting it rights equal to or superior to a woman's — a thinking, feeling, conscious human being — is arrogant and absurd. It only serves to diminish women.*
4. Being a mother is just one option for women.* Many hard battles have been fought to win political and economic equality for women. These gains will not be worth much if reproductive choice is denied. To be able to choose a safe, legal abortion makes many other options possible. Otherwise an accident or a rape can end a woman's economic and personal freedom.*
Most of the people killed with abortion are women. When you kill a woman you not only take away everything she has, you also take away everything she ever will have.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#856 Oct 26, 2012
know it all wrote:
<quoted text> U MURDERED SOMEONE
No, I refused to commit suicide by attempting gestation in my fallopian tube. My death from that condition would have resulted in a dead embryo anyway.

If that bothers you, go soak your pillow with tears - but don't you tell me "I murdered someone," when in reality it would have murdered me. You want me to feel guilty for living to give birth to my sons?
That's NEVER going to happen.
In that circumstance, I would chose abortion again, even if idiots writing terrible law require me to go underground to get it done.
No question.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#857 Oct 26, 2012
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
Your mindless hatemongering, and crass disregard for the lives of others is an affront to humanity.
Blow me.

:)

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#858 Oct 26, 2012
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
Most of the people killed with abortion are women. When you kill a woman you not only take away everything she has, you also take away everything she ever will have.
All of the PEOPLE killed by abortion are women. Far fewer women are killed with abortion, now that it is legal and safe to obtain one.

Your argument is flawed.

Hint: an acorn is not an oak tree, and women are post-pubescent.
Get a grip.

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