Woman dies in Ireland after being denied an abortion

Nov 14, 2012 Full story: CBC News 326

The debate over legalizing abortion in Ireland flared Wednesday after the government confirmed a miscarrying woman suffering from blood poisoning was refused a quick termination of her pregnancy and died in an Irish hospital.

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“2014 TDF”

Since: Mar 09

Boca Raton, FL.

#253 Nov 30, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>This sickens me. This is the face of the misogynistic right wing religious freaks. Women/girls are worthless and even more so when they cannot produce. In the case of pregnancy they become nothing more than a machine and the zygote/fetus from their almighty MALE GOD rules! She has no right to self defense nor anything else. This is what they would like to see happen in America. Now watch the right wing lunatics cry foul "of course we care about women "we would allow a mothers life to be saved"! LIARS is all they are they want America to reflect their women hating mythologies, they are fanatics and they are dangerous to women they are as fanatical and anti woman as the taliban if not worse. Look at this anti woman Pro life freak. http://www.youtube.com/watch ... Here is the anti woman policy of the CC., again proof of their hatred and injustice and TOTAL disregard for women. http://www.catholic.net/index.php ...
We won't even discuss their god condones rape and women who are legitimately raped don't become pregnant because they have a mechanism that shuts it down beliefs.
Interesting how John Walsh says he's "pro-life with no exceptions" on that video, and here the RCC is gloating with an over-joyous noise, just because SCOTUS told the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals to "Re-Hear the argument on the HHS issue." As if that means SCOTUS is reversing the 4th!

Oh yes; we can't forget how they're claiming it's a violation of their religious freedom for an employer to provide medical coverage that would cover contraception, under its prescription rider, but I suppose it's not a violation of a 7th Day Adventist, or a Jehovah's Witness employer, to provide health coverage for their non 7th Day Adventist or non-JW employees that will cover blood transfusions.

And I suppose it's also ok for John Walsh to say he opposes all exceptions to abortion, and run for office, but it's not ok for a Jew to invoke his 1st Amendment right by saying his religion mandates an abortion be performed at any stage of the pregnancy, if the mother's life is at stake.

These idiots love to use the Constitution as a sword an a shield. Yet, not one of them can give a reasonable explanation to Hosea 13:16, which states in pertinent part "their little ones will be dashed to the ground and their pregnant women ripped open."

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#254 Nov 30, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear Morgana, before exploiting this unfortunate situation & having a morgasm, wait until investigation details explain what actually happened. TIA.
You mean wait for the CC and their zombie followers to come up with a reasonable excuse in order to excuse themselves. Women are of no value to the CC and sacrificial. End of story.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#255 Nov 30, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting how John Walsh says he's "pro-life with no exceptions" on that video, and here the RCC is gloating with an over-joyous noise, just because SCOTUS told the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals to "Re-Hear the argument on the HHS issue." As if that means SCOTUS is reversing the 4th!
Oh yes; we can't forget how they're claiming it's a violation of their religious freedom for an employer to provide medical coverage that would cover contraception, under its prescription rider, but I suppose it's not a violation of a 7th Day Adventist, or a Jehovah's Witness employer, to provide health coverage for their non 7th Day Adventist or non-JW employees that will cover blood transfusions.
And I suppose it's also ok for John Walsh to say he opposes all exceptions to abortion, and run for office, but it's not ok for a Jew to invoke his 1st Amendment right by saying his religion mandates an abortion be performed at any stage of the pregnancy, if the mother's life is at stake.
These idiots love to use the Constitution as a sword an a shield. Yet, not one of them can give a reasonable explanation to Hosea 13:16, which states in pertinent part "their little ones will be dashed to the ground and their pregnant women ripped open."
I agree, their goal is to set rule in this country and disregard all others and any concept of freedom that does not honor their religion.
jason norris

Liverpool, UK

#256 Nov 30, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
GFY....OH thats right you have no other choice!!!
we all have choices, but not the nihilist ones you take.
It is obvious to all that you are an embittered old woman, long past sell by date, now attempting to put forward views that embarrass real women.
Was going to add get a life, but you have had yours. Too late.
Even North Korea would refuse you now.
jason norris

Liverpool, UK

#257 Nov 30, 2012
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree, their goal is to set rule in this country and disregard all others and any concept of freedom that does not honor their religion.
rubbish.
jason norris

Liverpool, UK

#258 Nov 30, 2012
No Relativism wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear Morgana, before exploiting this unfortunate situation & having a morgasm, wait until investigation details explain what actually happened. TIA.
Too late. It is past having a morgasm. Well said though.
Brown Girl in the Ring

Hemel Hempstead, UK

#259 Nov 30, 2012
rio wrote:
joewale = johnsheaperd = jason norris = humberman99 == many more
Funny how this gutless coward uses plenty of MONICKERS all at once to post a multitude of messages when he is on the attack, most of the time because someone failed to agre with his disgusting posts.
You are one and the same; this is so obvious
Also, the same moron seems to have problem dealing withl genders equality and people of different orientations, a real sign we are dealing with a retarded here.
Nowadays, people don't make nasty comments about women, gays, lesbians, transgenders and so on; they are widely accepted and their detractors look like morons from another age.
Only a total imbecile attracts attention on himself and underline publicly his lower intelligence by mocking women's menstruation, or making constant reference to gays as if they were somehow inferior.
If I was gay, stupid moron, I would certainly not feel inferior to a prat like you!
what`s also interesting men like that automatically assume because a woman is a feminist she must be past her sell by date and unattractive when in truth they're often a bearded ugly fat bastard themselves and not getting any love.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#260 Nov 30, 2012
jason norris wrote:
<quoted text>
rubbish.
That is exactly what you are! We finally agree!
Brown Girl in the Ring

Hemel Hempstead, UK

#261 Nov 30, 2012
rio wrote:
<quoted text>
But he is a very poor specimen of Brit.
The ill-bred, narrow-minded, uncouth, uneducated type.
mostly likely a chav living in a council flat
Ocean56

AOL

#262 Dec 1, 2012
Conservative Democrat wrote:
Power over decency? LMFAO!! That's what you want. Only you're too stupid to realize that decency, like knowledge, IS power, and that it is reciprocated in the same manner as it is delivered.
Your problem, jason, is that you believe yourself the last Coca Cola in the desert with regard to decency, when you don't have the available neurons to even understand the very core of the principle.
Agreed. Jason's "mind," narrow as it is, seems to be stuck in the 19th century -- or even earlier -- when it comes to women and women's rights. He really can't accept the fact that women DO have rights now, including reproductive rights. I say too bad for him.

He also can't deal with women who challenge his idiotic statements, judging by his moronic insults directed at any woman poster who does just that. I hope NO woman will make the mistake of hooking up with -- or worse, marrying -- this guy, as I have no doubt whatsoever he'd make her life absolutely miserable.
Ocean56

AOL

#263 Dec 1, 2012
jason norris wrote:
well then rabbit, we normals are free to give our take on you abnormals.
You and the other "morgana" are obviously one of the same. So do not go to Holland.
You and your kind are as ZOMBIES, body decrepit, alive, brain dead. And do enjoy feasting on blood.
You surely are some advert for the USA.
YOU call yourself "normal," now THAT is funny. Funny how the most militant anti-choice imbeciles like you always manage to describe themselves as "normal" when your posts tell an entirely different story.

In any case, you're free to keep your pathetic delusions, since that's ALL you'll ever have. The FACT remains that you have NO control over women and, I hope, never will.
Ocean56

AOL

#264 Dec 1, 2012
jason norris wrote:
we all have choices, but not the nihilist ones you take.
It is obvious to all that you are an embittered old woman, long past sell by date, now attempting to put forward views that embarrass real women.
Actually, it is obvious to all of us that the REAL embittered person here is YOU. For some reason, you can't accept the fact that the ugly days of the 19th century, when women had NO RIGHTS whatsoever, are GONE.

Women DO have rights now, including:

1. The right to have a college education
2. The right to enter any trade or profession we choose
3. The right to reject marriage and/or motherhood if some of us choose not to be wives or mothers
4. The right to make our OWN sexual and reproductive choices without interference from church clerics or state officials
5. The right to tell all control freaks like you to GET LOST.

Again, women DO have rights, pal. Deal with it.
jason norris

Liverpool, UK

#265 Dec 1, 2012
Brown Girl in the Ring wrote:
<quoted text>
mostly likely a chav living in a council flat
now we have an entry by a snobby type. So if you live in a council flat you are judged to be a "chav".
Well, that really beats all. The majority then living in the UK are chavs.
Well, if it gets votes for the BNP or UKIP then I will accept that.
I confess to being a chav.
jason norris

Liverpool, UK

#266 Dec 1, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, it is obvious to all of us that the REAL embittered person here is YOU. For some reason, you can't accept the fact that the ugly days of the 19th century, when women had NO RIGHTS whatsoever, are GONE.
Women DO have rights now, including:
1. The right to have a college education
2. The right to enter any trade or profession we choose
3. The right to reject marriage and/or motherhood if some of us choose not to be wives or mothers
4. The right to make our OWN sexual and reproductive choices without interference from church clerics or state officials
5. The right to tell all control freaks like you to GET LOST.
Again, women DO have rights, pal. Deal with it.
Deal with this then, one at a time, on point numbers 1, 2 I have no problem. I have never said a word against those issues.
On point number 3 of course a woman has the right to not to get married or have a family. I have no problem,nor ever had.
On point nunber 4, women have the right to make sexual preferences without interference from those said officials.
On point number 5 I am not a control freak. You do not know me and I can warrant that.
What I am against, now get this correctly, are perverts. The world, well the West anyway, is awash with porn, sexual degredation and offences against children. Nowhere in the Holy Bible does it espouse any of these things.
The Church speaks against these things. There are perverts in the Church, we all know that. They are not the Holy Bible. I am saying that a proper family is like a house, it must be built on foundations otherwise it will crumble. So if children do not get the benefit of a foundation, what guide do they have against what is a pervert, really nothing.
You do go onb about taking oreders etc, who or what put you on this road is only known unto yourself.
A woman, a good woman, is the most important unit in a family. Any proper male married to a proper female will know that. So to my mind a deviant female, and indeed a deviant male, is as much use to a proper family as a jellyfish is to a milk cow.

So note, I do not espouse men treating women in any way only respectful and politely.

Anyone with an ounce of wit will know that the morals of the West have been trashed. In your posts you seem affixed with two things, taking orders from men, and sex. A normal family has no trouble with sex, and as for taking orders, that seems lodged with the military.
Ocean56

AOL

#267 Dec 2, 2012
jason norris wrote:
A woman, a good woman, is the most important unit in a family. Any proper male married to a proper female will know that. So to my mind a deviant female, and indeed a deviant male, is as much use to a proper family as a jellyfish is to a milk cow.
Riiiiiiight, and I have NO doubt whatsoever that in your narrow, anti-choice "mind," a "good woman" is one who "knows her place," accepts that her husband is actually her BOSS, has "as many children as god will allow," and other such nonsense as religious conservatives believe. In other words, a SUBMISSIVE. If that's your definition of a "good woman," any intelligent woman will run as far AWAY from you as possible.

The fact remains that not many women would want to date or marry any guy whose "mind" is STUCK IN THE PAST by at least two centuries. As far as I'M concerned, such a guy is a total loser, and I pity any woman who makes the mistake of dating or marrying one.
jason norris

Liverpool, UK

#268 Dec 2, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Riiiiiiight, and I have NO doubt whatsoever that in your narrow, anti-choice "mind," a "good woman" is one who "knows her place," accepts that her husband is actually her BOSS, has "as many children as god will allow," and other such nonsense as religious conservatives believe. In other words, a SUBMISSIVE. If that's your definition of a "good woman," any intelligent woman will run as far AWAY from you as possible.
The fact remains that not many women would want to date or marry any guy whose "mind" is STUCK IN THE PAST by at least two centuries. As far as I'M concerned, such a guy is a total loser, and I pity any woman who makes the mistake of dating or marrying one.
once again you are accusing me of being something I am not ie anti-choice . How am I anti-choice. Evidence please. I am only going by nature. You know exactly what I mean, until men bear chilren and men have monthly periods, then the difference will always be there.
You like to think that men and women should be equal, sorry, you are on a loser, that will never occur. Men have their particular strenghts, women have theirs. Nevr will they meet.

As for having continuous streams of children, a family should be entitled to the family they want, or do not want as the case may be.

You shoot yourself in the foot by saying a woman would run away from me if I had any of the particular "sins" as listed by you, because some women want large families, and enjoy the feminine gift of being submissive.

If you want to live on your own, childless, then who cares. At least you will not be taking orders. But at least let the rest of your sex who do enjoy a normal life enjoy it. Without rancour.
rio

Beckenham, UK

#269 Dec 2, 2012
jason norris wrote:
<quoted text>
some women want large families, and enjoy the feminine gift of being submissive.
.
Must be the self-loathing type, or a foreign girl after a visa telling you that !!
Ocean56

AOL

#270 Dec 3, 2012
jason norris wrote:
once again you are accusing me of being something I am not ie anti-choice . How am I anti-choice. Evidence please. I am only going by nature. You know exactly what I mean, until men bear chilren and men have monthly periods, then the difference will always be there.
You like to think that men and women should be equal, sorry, you are on a loser, that will never occur. Men have their particular strenghts, women have theirs. Nevr will they meet.
As for having continuous streams of children, a family should be entitled to the family they want, or do not want as the case may be.
You shoot yourself in the foot by saying a woman would run away from me if I had any of the particular "sins" as listed by you, because some women want large families, and enjoy the feminine gift of being submissive.
If you want to live on your own, childless, then who cares. At least you will not be taking orders. But at least let the rest of your sex who do enjoy a normal life enjoy it. Without rancour.
As far as I'M concerned, goofy, you ARE anti-choice, no matter how many times you claim otherwise. Also, you can say any idiotic thing you want about me, it won't make any difference.

Personally, I deeply pity ANY woman who really believes nonsense like she is only a "real woman" if she has a lot of children and is submissive to a man who in reality treats her like an UNPAID SERVANT. Thankfully, that will NEVER be me.

I think being a submissive woman SUCKS, and that's what I say to any man OR woman who believes submission to a boyfriend or husband is a good thing. Don't like my saying that? Too bad, pal. It ISN'T up to you what I can and cannot say. For a religionist moron like you, that's gotta burn.
Ocean56

AOL

#271 Dec 3, 2012
jason norris wrote:
If you want to live on your own, childless, then who cares. At least you will not be taking orders. But at least let the rest of your sex who do enjoy a normal life enjoy it. Without rancour.
Actually, I think YOU care that women are free to REJECT marriage and/or motherhood if they don't want anything to do with your highly toxic and regressive views. If you didn't, you wouldn't try so hard to dictate what I or anyone else can post.

If you really believe that a "normal life" for a woman is being submissive and taking orders, and popping out a huge number of children because she's told she's "supposed to," you're even MORE stupid than I originally thought. Why ANY woman would want to date or marry a regressive moron like you is beyond me. Luckily, that kind of horrible situation will never be MY problem.
rock white

Liverpool, UK

#272 Dec 3, 2012
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I think YOU care that women are free to REJECT marriage and/or motherhood if they don't want anything to do with your highly toxic and regressive views. If you didn't, you wouldn't try so hard to dictate what I or anyone else can post.
If you really believe that a "normal life" for a woman is being submissive and taking orders, and popping out a huge number of children because she's told she's "supposed to," you're even MORE stupid than I originally thought. Why ANY woman would want to date or marry a regressive moron like you is beyond me. Luckily, that kind of horrible situation will never be MY problem.
There you go again, "taking orders" , "submissive" appears in your posts time and time again. You have a serious hang up and probably need to see a shrink.

Normal people will continue to lead normal lives oblivious to your hang ups.

The reason I exchange views with you is because I enjoy blogging with people like you. I find it entertaining. I live a normal live, with normal women around me. You are a better source of entertainment than the Simpsons.

Now you ought to be proud.

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