4 Texas abortion clinics to close due...

4 Texas abortion clinics to close due to new law

There are 42 comments on the Merced Sun-Star story from Sep 5, 2013, titled 4 Texas abortion clinics to close due to new law. In it, Merced Sun-Star reports that:

One of the main obstacles the clinics face is a requirement that doctors who perform the procedure obtain admitting privileges at hospitals, The Dallas Morning News reported .

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Susanm

Emmaus, PA

#1 Sep 5, 2013
"Three of the four clinics that said they are closing are Planned Parenthood facilities. All three have an abortion clinic and a family planning clinic."

Read more here: http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2013/09/05/32047...

So if they can't do abortions they are going to pack up their toys and go home? It doesn't look like they care enough about women to continue providing their other services.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#2 Sep 6, 2013
Susanm wrote:
"Three of the four clinics that said they are closing are Planned Parenthood facilities. All three have an abortion clinic and a family planning clinic."
Read more here: http://www.mercedsunstar.com/2013/09/05/32047...
So if they can't do abortions they are going to pack up their toys and go home? It doesn't look like they care enough about women to continue providing their other services.
This IS puzzling, as all we hear is how provision of abortion services is such a small part of what PP centers do.

Looks to me like the money plug's getting pulled, despite all the claims to the contrary.
Deborah

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Sep 6, 2013
Dan wrote:
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This IS puzzling, as all we hear is how provision of abortion services is such a small part of what PP centers do.
Looks to me like the money plug's getting pulled, despite all the claims to the contrary.
Next to the 45 percent of Planned Parenthood income extorted from unwilling taxpayers, abortion pays the freight at Abortions 'R' Us. Always has, always will.

From PP annual reports:

Abortion income for 2011:$173,661,280

Abortion income for 2010:$164,722,500

At an estimated average of $520 per abortion, Planned Parenthood’s abortion income for 2011 would be $173,661,280. With non-government, paid clinic income of $305.4 million, that means that abortion provided 56.9 percent of Planned Parenthood’s clinic income in 2011.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#4 Sep 7, 2013
OH LOOK!! LifeLies is in fear of catholic hospitals closing!!

Cardinal George: All Catholic hospitals will close in two years under HHS mandate

CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, February 27, 2012,( LifeSiteNews.com )– Chicago’s Francis Cardinal George is warning the HHS contraception/abortifacient mandate will close Catholic hospitals and universities or force them to secularize, a process he calls “a form of theft.”

If the regulation is not rescinded, the Catholic Church will be “despoiled of her institutions,” he said in a column printed on CatholicNewWorld, likening the proposed policies to the restrictive “freedom of worship” allowed in the Soviet Union.

“What will happen if the HHS regulations are not rescinded?” he asked. A faithful ministry must choose between selling itself to a non-Catholic group, paying “exorbitant annual fines” until going bankrupt, breaking its ties to the Church’s “moral and social teachings and the oversight of its ministry by the local bishop,” or closing down.

He urged people to purchase a copy of the Archdiocesan directory “as a souvenir,” pointing to the page containing a list of Catholic hospitals and health care institutions.

“Two Lents from now, unless something changes, that page will be blank.”

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-geo...

GEE, what will we do without all of the catholic life saving measures they offer their male customers????
Dan

Omaha, NE

#5 Sep 9, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
OH LOOK!! LifeLies is in fear of catholic hospitals closing!!
Cardinal George: All Catholic hospitals will close in two years under HHS mandate
CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, February 27, 2012,( LifeSiteNews.com )– Chicago’s Francis Cardinal George is warning the HHS contraception/abortifacient mandate will close Catholic hospitals and universities or force them to secularize, a process he calls “a form of theft.”
If the regulation is not rescinded, the Catholic Church will be “despoiled of her institutions,” he said in a column printed on CatholicNewWorld, likening the proposed policies to the restrictive “freedom of worship” allowed in the Soviet Union.
“What will happen if the HHS regulations are not rescinded?” he asked. A faithful ministry must choose between selling itself to a non-Catholic group, paying “exorbitant annual fines” until going bankrupt, breaking its ties to the Church’s “moral and social teachings and the oversight of its ministry by the local bishop,” or closing down.
He urged people to purchase a copy of the Archdiocesan directory “as a souvenir,” pointing to the page containing a list of Catholic hospitals and health care institutions.
“Two Lents from now, unless something changes, that page will be blank.”
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/cardinal-geo...
GEE, what will we do without all of the catholic life saving measures they offer their male customers????
The tangential non-sequitur from Morgana.

Predictable as the sunrise.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#6 Sep 10, 2013
Dan wrote:
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The tangential non-sequitur from Morgana.
Predictable as the sunrise.
Gee, I can and I did point out by posting the article the same logic Susanm used. Should we have a looksy?
Susanm wrote:
So if they can't do abortions they are going to pack up their toys and go home? It doesn't look like they care enough about women to continue providing their other services.
So if they the CC cannot practice their misogynistic beliefs they are going to pack up their toys and go home? It doesn't look like they care enough about the sick to continue providing their other services.

Get it Dancing Dan....or must we draw you a picture....as always?
Dan

Omaha, NE

#7 Sep 10, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Gee, I can and I did point out by posting the article the same logic Susanm used. Should we have a looksy?
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So if they the CC cannot practice their misogynistic beliefs they are going to pack up their toys and go home? It doesn't look like they care enough about the sick to continue providing their other services.
Get it Dancing Dan....or must we draw you a picture....as always?
The HHS mandate is a violation of the first amendment RE: Catholic institutions.

Apples and oranges, dear.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#8 Sep 10, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Gee, I can and I did point out by posting the article the same logic Susanm used. Should we have a looksy?
<quoted text>
So if they the CC cannot practice their misogynistic beliefs they are going to pack up their toys and go home? It doesn't look like they care enough about the sick to continue providing their other services.
Get it Dancing Dan....or must we draw you a picture....as always?
They won't be allowed to stay open if they don't provide abortion and related services. They won't have a choice.

Catholic hospitals are about one third of all hospitals and most are charity .

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#9 Sep 10, 2013
Dan wrote:
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The HHS mandate is a violation of the first amendment RE: Catholic institutions.
Apples and oranges, dear.
Their CHURCH is not being asked to abide. BUT their businesses are...just like all other businesses. They should have stuck to religion and stayed out of business...don't you think? You idiots think any corporation can cry religion. Not gonna happen sister.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#10 Sep 10, 2013
Ink wrote:
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They won't be allowed to stay open if they don't provide abortion and related services. They won't have a choice.
Catholic hospitals are about one third of all hospitals and most are charity .
GOOD!!! YIPPIE!! Let them take their discriminatory bat and ball and go the fck back to the golden gates of the vatican. They should be quite comfortable their dripping in gold, they will have to find new means to support their riches.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#11 Sep 10, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Their CHURCH is not being asked to abide. BUT their businesses are...just like all other businesses. They should have stuck to religion and stayed out of business...don't you think? You idiots think any corporation can cry religion. Not gonna happen sister.
Catholic hospitals, schools, etc. aren't like "all other businesses". They're NFP's and they operate as a direct extension of the mission of the Church. WalMart, GE, Apple, etc. don't.

HL, seems to have made a thus far successful "cry religion" effort, but IMO it won't hold up (due to the fact that HL dude's church doesn't have a specific written prohibition on abortion).
Dan

Omaha, NE

#12 Sep 10, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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GOOD!!! YIPPIE!! Let them take their discriminatory bat and ball and go the fck back to the golden gates of the vatican. They should be quite comfortable their dripping in gold, they will have to find new means to support their riches.
No need bashing the RCC because they aren't short of money. I mean, PP could use some lessons from them in fundraising, it looks like. Millions and millions of subsidy every year, and they still can't make it work without the abortions.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#13 Sep 11, 2013
Dan wrote:
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No need bashing the RCC because they aren't short of money. I mean, PP could use some lessons from them in fundraising, it looks like. Millions and millions of subsidy every year, and they still can't make it work without the abortions.
Please direct me to to PP headquarters dripping in gold and loaded with stolen goods if you can.

I will wait.

The RCC's demise will be their hatred of women and their money lust. Women are now educated and have no need to tolerate their misogyny. The more women talk the more the RCC will be dismissed. I have seen it happen, on a small scale I have helped it happen and I will continue forward. I have many great points in my debate, from a molested brother to the male hierarchy that runs the corporation known as the RCC.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#14 Sep 11, 2013
Dan wrote:
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Catholic hospitals, schools, etc. aren't like "all other businesses". They're NFP's and they operate as a direct extension of the mission of the Church. WalMart, GE, Apple, etc. don't.
HL, seems to have made a thus far successful "cry religion" effort, but IMO it won't hold up (due to the fact that HL dude's church doesn't have a specific written prohibition on abortion).
OH they are like other businesses under the law! A business is a business. HL is a fine example of religious idiots crying religion in the face of the law. Why can't Apple or all the rest do the same just to make you idiots look more idiotic?
Susanm

Emmaus, PA

#15 Sep 11, 2013
Ink wrote:
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They won't be allowed to stay open if they don't provide abortion and related services. They won't have a choice.
Catholic hospitals are about one third of all hospitals and most are charity .
Maybe they will become specialty hospitals, for example orthopedic, mental health, or children.
Susanm

Emmaus, PA

#16 Sep 11, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Gee, I can and I did point out by posting the article the same logic Susanm used. Should we have a looksy?
<quoted text>
So if they the CC cannot practice their misogynistic beliefs they are going to pack up their toys and go home? It doesn't look like they care enough about the sick to continue providing their other services.
Get it Dancing Dan....or must we draw you a picture....as always?
"So if they the CC cannot practice their misogynistic beliefs they are going to pack up their toys and go home? It doesn't look like they care enough about the sick to continue providing their other services."

There ARE ways around this.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#17 Sep 11, 2013
Ink wrote:
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They won't be allowed to stay open if they don't provide abortion and related services. They won't have a choice.
Catholic hospitals are about one third of all hospitals and most are charity .
You are wrong. Catholic hospitals are only 12% of the hospitals in this country.

There isn't even on within a three hour drive from me, yet we have 8 nearby hospitals. They won't be missed.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#18 Sep 11, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Please direct me to to PP headquarters dripping in gold and loaded with stolen goods if you can.
I will wait.
The RCC's demise will be their hatred of women and their money lust. Women are now educated and have no need to tolerate their misogyny. The more women talk the more the RCC will be dismissed. I have seen it happen, on a small scale I have helped it happen and I will continue forward. I have many great points in my debate, from a molested brother to the male hierarchy that runs the corporation known as the RCC.
PP gets millions and millions of dollars in tax subsidy annually.

Wait in line for the Church to be "dismissed", Helen Reddy. There are 2,000 years worth of haters in front of you.
Dan

Omaha, NE

#19 Sep 11, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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OH they are like other businesses under the law! A business is a business. HL is a fine example of religious idiots crying religion in the face of the law. Why can't Apple or all the rest do the same just to make you idiots look more idiotic?
HL isn't an NFP.

Duh.
Ink

Bensalem, PA

#20 Sep 11, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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GOOD!!! YIPPIE!! Let them take their discriminatory bat and ball and go the fck back to the golden gates of the vatican. They should be quite comfortable their dripping in gold, they will have to find new means to support their riches.
Good luck trying to find an emergency room. LOL

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