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Activist: "Abortion Threatens Black America's Future"

There are 5999 comments on the Booker Rising story from Sep 24, 2012, titled Activist: "Abortion Threatens Black America's Future". In it, Booker Rising reports that:

The From Catholic Online : "Adding to the argument that abortion threatens one sector of American society over others, Catherine Davis, president of The Restoration Project, pointed out to the great racial disparity of women currently getting abortions." The article continues: "Davis said that according to the Centers for Disease Control, ... (more)

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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1700 Sep 9, 2013
At least half of the population has some form of pre-existing condition, be it cancer to high blood pressure to depression and beyond. BTW--"pre-existing" is not the same as recurrent.
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Pre-existing can't be insured any more than you could gamble on a race game that has already been played and the cards revealed. It's not the government's job to provide health care, food or other basic necessities; except for dire circumstance. Have you seen the costs for those pre-existing 'insurance' programs?
Repeal Obamacare, make health spending tax deductible and cut regulations that interfere with free market prices between you and your health provider.

“Obsidian Princess”

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#1701 Sep 9, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Let's say an insured woman gets pregnant. Which do you think the carrier will want to pay--$500 or less for an abortion, or thousands for prenatal care, childbirth, and the addition of a baby to the policy? The costs go up astronomically if the birthing goes wrong or the baby has health issues.
<quoted text>
why do you even have to explain this to him? good grief!
zef

Marina Del Rey, CA

#1702 Sep 10, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Abortions and contraceptives cost far LESS than pregnancy and childbirth (and paying out for resultant children.) Pregnancy is a health factor, and thus so is any treatment related to it.
<quoted text>
I'll bet you could rationalize clubbing baby seals.

AgentSmith9

“The Sun was high...”

Since: Jun 10

and so was I

#1703 Sep 10, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Pre-existing can't be insured any more than you could gamble on a race game that has already been played and the cards revealed. It's not the government's job to provide health care, food or other basic necessities; except for dire circumstance. Have you seen the costs for those pre-existing 'insurance' programs?
Repeal Obamacare, make health spending tax deductible and cut regulations that interfere with free market prices between you and your health provider.
Lots of these people with pre-existing conditions were insured and lost their jobs and coverage and now can't get insurance due to pre-existing conditions.

These are people that have played by the rules their entire lives and fell on hard times.

Republicans always like to point out the worst case scenario as their excuse for not having a heart and being compassionate to their brothers and sisters.

These aren't people that were uninsured their entire lives and just rolled the dice and went without coverage .. these are people that have had coverage that fell on hard times lost a job.. got diagnosed with cancer or some other type of disease that enabled them to work at the same productivity level as before.

It's a dumb loophole that maximizes profits for insurance companies and nothing more. All these insurance companies are making record breaking profits... while Americans are being bankrupt forced to play by rules that only benefit big business.

In Jan 2014 it will be an end to the stupidity behind the pre-existing conditions non sense.

AgentSmith9

“The Sun was high...”

Since: Jun 10

and so was I

#1704 Sep 10, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
At least half of the population has some form of pre-existing condition, be it cancer to high blood pressure to depression and beyond. BTW--"pre-existing" is not the same as recurrent.
<quoted text>
Exactly, you can google all the insane "pre-existing" conditions people are being turned down for or charged insane rates .. like sinus infections, high blood pressure, acid reflux, etc..

It's crazy. I even read that over 80% of term life insurance policies never even payout.

These insurance companies are incredibly corrupt.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1705 Sep 11, 2013
AgentSmith9 wrote:
Lots of these people with pre-existing conditions were insured and lost their jobs and coverage and now can't get insurance due to pre-existing conditions.
These are people that have played by the rules their entire lives and fell on hard times.
Republicans always like to point out the worst case scenario as their excuse for not having a heart and being compassionate to their brothers and sisters.
These aren't people that were uninsured their entire lives and just rolled the dice and went without coverage .. these are people that have had coverage that fell on hard times lost a job.. got diagnosed with cancer or some other type of disease that enabled them to work at the same productivity level as before.
It's a dumb loophole that maximizes profits for insurance companies and nothing more. All these insurance companies are making record breaking profits... while Americans are being bankrupt forced to play by rules that only benefit big business.
In Jan 2014 it will be an end to the stupidity behind the pre-existing conditions non sense.
If its insurance, then preexisting conditions can't be covered. You can't insurance an already wrecked auto, how do you expect to buy health insurance when you're already ill? That's not the way insurance works.

A.Smith is writing about welfare, not insurance. Insurance works by pooling risks and welfare works by giving away taxpayer money. See the difference?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1706 Sep 11, 2013
Only if you're a baby seal.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll bet you could rationalize clubbing baby seals.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1707 Sep 11, 2013
Term life insurance does exactly what it says it does; it provides coverage for a specific time period. You pay for potential payout during that time. If you live past that term, then you've had insurance whether you needed it or not, just like auto insurance. It's not corrupt; the payor is taking a gamble, exchanging perpetuating coverage for lower premiums.
AgentSmith9 wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly, you can google all the insane "pre-existing" conditions people are being turned down for or charged insane rates .. like sinus infections, high blood pressure, acid reflux, etc..
It's crazy. I even read that over 80% of term life insurance policies never even payout.
These insurance companies are incredibly corrupt.
zef

Marina Del Rey, CA

#1708 Sep 11, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Only if you're a baby seal.
<quoted text>
"It isn't their necks I mind," said Piglet earnestly. "It's their teeth. But if Christopher Robin is coming I don't mind anything."
zef

Marina Del Rey, CA

#1709 Sep 13, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Let's say an insured woman gets pregnant. Which do you think the carrier will want to pay--$500 or less for an abortion, or thousands for prenatal care, childbirth, and the addition of a baby to the policy? The costs go up astronomically if the birthing goes wrong or the baby has health issues.
<quoted text>
His mind was crowded with memories; memories of the knowledge that had come to them when they closed in on the struggling pig, knowledge that they had outwitted a living thing, imposed their will upon it, taken away its life like a long satisfying drink.
zef

Marina Del Rey, CA

#1710 Sep 13, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
After a time Niggle turned towards the Forest. Not because he was tired of the Tree, but he seemed to have got it all clear in his mind now, and was aware of it, and of its growth, even when he was not looking at it. As he walked away, he discovered an odd thing: the Forest, of course, was a distant Forest, yet he could approach it, even enter it, without its losing that particular charm.
One day, Niggle stood a little way off from his picture and considered it with unusual attention and detachment. He could not make up his mind what he thought about it, and wished he had some friend who would tell him what to think. Actually it seemed to him wholly unsatisfactory, and yet very lovely, the only really beautiful picture in the world. What he would have liked at that moment would have been to see himself walk in, and slap him on the back, and say (with obvious sincerity): "Absolutely magnificent! I see exactly what you are getting at. Do get on with it, and don't bother about anything else!
zef

Marina Del Rey, CA

#1711 Sep 13, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
One day, Niggle stood a little way off from his picture and considered it with unusual attention and detachment. He could not make up his mind what he thought about it, and wished he had some friend who would tell him what to think. Actually it seemed to him wholly unsatisfactory, and yet very lovely, the only really beautiful picture in the world. What he would have liked at that moment would have been to see himself walk in, and slap him on the back, and say (with obvious sincerity): "Absolutely magnificent! I see exactly what you are getting at. Do get on with it, and don't bother about anything else!
There was once a little man called Niggle, who had a long journey to make. He did not want to go, indeed the whole idea was distasteful to him; but he could not get out of it. He knew he would have to start some time, but he did not hurry with his preparations.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1712 Sep 14, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Let's say an insured woman gets pregnant. Which do you think the carrier will want to pay--$500 or less for an abortion, or thousands for prenatal care, childbirth, and the addition of a baby to the policy? The costs go up astronomically if the birthing goes wrong or the baby has health issues.
Health insurance doesn't cover well baby care, just illness. By increasing benefits with government mandates, the cost of insurance rises. There's no saving from contraception when insurance pools are forced to pay for contraception.

Obamacare covers abortions; that's why that legislation is expensive and anti-life.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1713 Sep 14, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Term life insurance does exactly what it says it does; it provides coverage for a specific time period. You pay for potential payout during that time. If you live past that term, then you've had insurance whether you needed it or not, just like auto insurance. It's not corrupt; the payor is taking a gamble, exchanging perpetuating coverage for lower premiums.
Health insurance isn't the same thing as term life insurance.

“Israel uses Jim Crow Terrorism”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#1714 Sep 14, 2013
...along with black women's heightism...

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1715 Sep 14, 2013
Depends on the policy many insurance plans do cover well-baby care. The emphasis now is on preventative care, which helps keep costs down. contraception costs are petty cash compared to the cost of not using it.

Obamacare covers pregnancy and the results of pregnancy, including abortion.That's because it is legal medical procedure. Your approval is immaterial.
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Health insurance doesn't cover well baby care, just illness. By increasing benefits with government mandates, the cost of insurance rises. There's no saving from contraception when insurance pools are forced to pay for contraception.
Obamacare covers abortions; that's why that legislation is expensive and anti-life.
zef

Marina Del Rey, CA

#1716 Sep 14, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
There was once a little man called Niggle, who had a long journey to make. He did not want to go, indeed the whole idea was distasteful to him; but he could not get out of it. He knew he would have to start some time, but he did not hurry with his preparations.
When Parish looked at Niggle's garden (which was often) he saw mostly weeds; and when he looked at Niggle's pictures (which was seldom) he saw only green and grey patches and black lines, which seemed to him nonsensical. He did not mind mentioning the weeds (a neighborly duty), but he refrained from giving any opinion of the pictures. He thought this was very kind, and he did not realize that, even if it was kind, it was not kind enough. Help with the weeds (and perhaps praise for the pictures) would have been better.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1717 Sep 14, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Depends on the policy many insurance plans do cover well-baby care. The emphasis now is on preventative care, which helps keep costs down. contraception costs are petty cash compared to the cost of not using it. Obamacare covers pregnancy and the results of pregnancy, including abortion.That's because it is legal medical procedure. Your approval is immaterial.
If you buy your own health insurance, you know these new mandates to cover contraception and abortions cause insurance costs to increase, not decrease. Contraception costs are petty cash if you pay your own way, if a third party (insurance conpany) is negotiating with pharmacies and medical providers, costs are sure to skyrocket.

We don't need to delay Obamacare, like our President is doing for his business contributors; we need to repeal Obamacare. Now.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1718 Sep 14, 2013
Insurance premiums go up every year, mostly because healthcare itself is more expensive every year. Insurance carriers negotiate DOWN for standard items, thus reducing costs.

BTW--most carriers already pay for contraceptives.

Obamacare isn't going away.
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>If you buy your own health insurance, you know these new mandates to cover contraception and abortions cause insurance costs to increase, not decrease. Contraception costs are petty cash if you pay your own way, if a third party (insurance conpany) is negotiating with pharmacies and medical providers, costs are sure to skyrocket.
We don't need to delay Obamacare, like our President is doing for his business contributors; we need to repeal Obamacare. Now.
zef

Marina Del Rey, CA

#1719 Sep 16, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>
When Parish looked at Niggle's garden (which was often) he saw mostly weeds; and when he looked at Niggle's pictures (which was seldom) he saw only green and grey patches and black lines, which seemed to him nonsensical. He did not mind mentioning the weeds (a neighborly duty), but he refrained from giving any opinion of the pictures. He thought this was very kind, and he did not realize that, even if it was kind, it was not kind enough. Help with the weeds (and perhaps praise for the pictures) would have been better.
Parish had a lame leg, a genuine lame leg which gave him a good deal of pain: that had to be remembered, as well as his sour expression and whining voice.

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