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Activist: "Abortion Threatens Black America's Future"

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The From Catholic Online : "Adding to the argument that abortion threatens one sector of American society over others, Catherine Davis, president of The Restoration Project, pointed out to the great racial disparity of women currently getting abortions." The article continues: "Davis said that according to the Centers for Disease Control, ... (more)

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zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1617 Jun 13, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
No, none of the animals you mentioned adopt out their young; they destroy the host's offspring with their own. Being a "changeling" is not being adopted. Now, some primates will adopt the young of a dead group member, but more than likely, the group members will just eat the kid.
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They are not changelings, they are raised by the parents of the animals they destroy.
Adopt means to raise as ones own, which is exactly what the parents of the destroyed offspring do.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1618 Jun 13, 2013
dragonpat wrote:
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you don't know what viability rights are? wow!!! these rights actually in force in certain states....if not all of the states.
let me explain, a woman cannot have an abortion on demand beyond a certain point of fetal gestation...lets say around 5 months.
by that time, most all women are looking forward to a baby!!
That's a law, not a right. All you are saying is our laws protect some people rights and others not, because our society is comprised of hatemongering bigots.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1619 Jun 13, 2013
dragonpat wrote:
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that's not ADOPTION. those BIRD are not dropping off their eggs so another bird will feed and care for those chicks to be. they are dropping them off to BE ABLE TO FEED OF THE OTHER BIRDS CHICKS.
They don't feed off the other birds chicks, most avian brood parasites will remove a host egg when they lay one of their own its place, the nesting parents than feed and care for those chicks as their own.
Adopt means to raise as ones own,, which is exactly what the nesting parents do. So yes, several species of animals do put their young out for adoption.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1620 Jun 13, 2013
Adoption is a voluntary process. If someone takes your kids and substitutes their own, they aren't adopted.

adopt
&#8194;
verb (used with object)
1.
to choose or take as one's own; make one's own by selection or assent: to adopt a nickname.
2.
to take and rear (the child of other parents) as one's own child, specifically by a formal legal act.
3.
to take or receive into any kind of new relationship: to adopt a person as a protégé.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/adopt...
zef wrote:
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They are not changelings, they are raised by the parents of the animals they destroy.
Adopt means to raise as ones own, which is exactly what the parents of the destroyed offspring do.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1621 Jun 14, 2013
Don't abort, use adoption instead. There are waiting lines of qualified mother and father couples looking to adopt and raise your unwanted baby.

Advocate life, not murder.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1622 Jun 14, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Adoption is a voluntary process. If someone takes your kids and substitutes their own, they aren't adopted.
adopt
&#8194;
verb (used with object)
1.
to choose or take as one's own; make one's own by selection or assent: to adopt a nickname.
2.
to take and rear (the child of other parents) as one's own child, specifically by a formal legal act.
3.
to take or receive into any kind of new relationship: to adopt a person as a protégé.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/adopt...
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We are discussing animals adopting out their young, not humans. Attempting to apply the adoption principles of humans to animals is asinine.
No one forces them to provide for the chicks of other parents, they do so of their own free will as if those chicks were their own.
And in using the broader sense of adoption to include animals one must also use the broader sense of adoption while discussing adoption in terms of animals. Which is caring for the young of others as if they were their own, which what they do, which is what adoption is in terms of animals.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1623 Jun 14, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
If you think a fetus is a woman, i hope you're not left alone with kids. You'd start speed-dating in daycares.
She doesn't HAVE to adapt to pregnancy at all; it's her choice.
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I never said anything about dating anyone. I know a female human fetus is a woman, and I said women should not be killed because of their age.
Maternal physiological changes in pregnancy are the normal adaptations that the mother undergoes during pregnancy to better accommodate the baby. Maternal physiological changes during pregnancy are bodily processes that are not under the control of choice, and cannot be controlled by choice.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1624 Jun 14, 2013
There are a half-million adoptable children in this country. But since they aren't newborns, I guess they can just go to hell, huh?

BTW--there are a lot of qualified father and father, and mother and mother couples, too.
Brian_G wrote:
Don't abort, use adoption instead. There are waiting lines of qualified mother and father couples looking to adopt and raise your unwanted baby.
Advocate life, not murder.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1625 Jun 14, 2013
No animal behaviorist uses the term adoption for tricking another animal to raise their young. The correct term is "brood parasite." As noted earlier. some primates (and other animals) will choose to raise a parentless offspring as its own, but it is not a standard behavior in any species. You need to learn the REAL meanings of words, not what you want them to mean.
zef wrote:
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We are discussing animals adopting out their young, not humans. Attempting to apply the adoption principles of humans to animals is asinine.
No one forces them to provide for the chicks of other parents, they do so of their own free will as if those chicks were their own.
And in using the broader sense of adoption to include animals one must also use the broader sense of adoption while discussing adoption in terms of animals. Which is caring for the young of others as if they were their own, which what they do, which is what adoption is in terms of animals.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1626 Jun 14, 2013
"Woman" isn't a medical term; fetus is. Abortion is a medical procedure. At the time when over 95% of all abortions are performed, sexual characteristics aren't even detectable, and the pregnant woman doesn't really care which gender is involved.

Your sad semantics don't change anything. Women have the right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. Grow up and deal with it.
zef wrote:
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I never said anything about dating anyone. I know a female human fetus is a woman, and I said women should not be killed because of their age.
Maternal physiological changes in pregnancy are the normal adaptations that the mother undergoes during pregnancy to better accommodate the baby. Maternal physiological changes during pregnancy are bodily processes that are not under the control of choice, and cannot be controlled by choice.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1627 Jun 14, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
No animal behaviorist uses the term adoption for tricking another animal to raise their young. The correct term is "brood parasite." As noted earlier. some primates (and other animals) will choose to raise a parentless offspring as its own, but it is not a standard behavior in any species. You need to learn the REAL meanings of words, not what you want them to mean.
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I was responding to this post.
dragonpat wrote:
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well, the ones that can't get a newborn need to get an older, suffering child out of foster care. period.
no use waiting forever for a newborn and trying to make a woman give birth just so you can get one.
you don't see "adoption" going on in the wild because it is not natural. animals do not adopt out their young to other animals. we make use of adoption to fill a need as humans but to advocate this as a way of life is not even natural.
if you can't have your own baby, maybe you don't need one.
The hosts of brood parasite are not forced to raise the offspring of others, they do so of their own free will. Whether or not they are tricked into doing so is irrelevant. The fact is the hosts of brood parasites raise the young of others as their own which is what adoption is.
zef wrote:
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They don't feed off the other birds chicks, most avian brood parasites will remove a host egg when they lay one of their own its place, the nesting parents than feed and care for those chicks as their own.
Adopt means to raise as ones own,, which is exactly what the nesting parents do. So yes, several species of animals do put their young out for adoption.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1628 Jun 14, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
"Woman" isn't a medical term; fetus is. Abortion is a medical procedure. At the time when over 95% of all abortions are performed, sexual characteristics aren't even detectable, and the pregnant woman doesn't really care which gender is involved.
Your sad semantics don't change anything. Women have the right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy. Grow up and deal with it.
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Our government placates the women they worship by allowing them to kill their babies with abortion. Many governments do not. Women do not have the right to kill anybody.
Women get pregnant because they do care which gender is involved.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1629 Jun 14, 2013
The hosts of brood parasites don't willingly do anything; they are not capable of recognizing the difference between their real offspring and the intruder. If I sneak a kid into a blind parent's home, kill their own child, and they raise that kid, did they adopt it, or were they swindled?

And only idiots think animals have "free will".
zef wrote:
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I was responding to this post.
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The hosts of brood parasite are not forced to raise the offspring of others, they do so of their own free will. Whether or not they are tricked into doing so is irrelevant. The fact is the hosts of brood parasites raise the young of others as their own which is what adoption is.
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“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1630 Jun 14, 2013
Okay, that's just 50 shades of stupid.
zef wrote:
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Our government placates the women they worship by allowing them to kill their babies with abortion. Many governments do not. Women do not have the right to kill anybody.
Women get pregnant because they do care which gender is involved.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1632 Jun 14, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
And only idiots think animals have "free will".
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I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. From where do these "experts" come who make blatant assumptions?
Why did my cat almost starve himself to death in grief over losing his feline companion? Why did the cat that I live with now, understand that--all on her own--that it wasn't proper to scratch ANYTHING but her scratching post? Do these presumptuous people know about the sensitivity & caring of elephants for their own, when there is no "gain" in it for them? There are far too many examples of the understanding & "reason" of animals, there's no use in going into them, as those who KNOW, already know, & others' minds are closed. Only those with very little self esteem have the need to feel superior to others, animals, or even humans.

If homosexuality is a choice, do Animals have free will to choose?
Penguins, Apes and many other species exhibit homo and bisexual behavior. So are these animals "choosing" to be gay? And because you hate the sin but not the sinner, will they go to animal hell for being gay?
I think that your meaning for "homosexual" is different for the human and the animal. In particular, whereas the human homosexual has sex exclusively with partners of the same sex, homosexual animals have sex with animals of either sex. In other words, whereas for humans you are labeling the person, for animals you are labeling the behavior.
So it appears that only animals have free choice in the matter. Therefore, maybe only animals will burn in Hell.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1633 Jun 15, 2013
Stand with us against abortion.

Vote for life.

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1634 Jun 15, 2013
Animal behaviorism is an entire scientific field.
these people come from universities and years of field studies.

Grief isn't a choice; it's a reaction. More importantly, domestic animals often form bonds based on mutual captivity; disruption of such bonds can cause a negative reaction. On the other hand, there isn't a single verifiable example of a cat starving itself to death, so get over it.

Yes, behaviorists know about the bonding among elephants; in fact, it's the only reason YOU'VE ever heard of it, moron.

Homosexuality isn't a choice. Come back when you've finally graduated from 3rd grade.
zef wrote:
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I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry. From where do these "experts" come who make blatant assumptions?
Why did my cat almost starve himself to death in grief over losing his feline companion? Why did the cat that I live with now, understand that--all on her own--that it wasn't proper to scratch ANYTHING but her scratching post? Do these presumptuous people know about the sensitivity & caring of elephants for their own, when there is no "gain" in it for them? There are far too many examples of the understanding & "reason" of animals, there's no use in going into them, as those who KNOW, already know, & others' minds are closed. Only those with very little self esteem have the need to feel superior to others, animals, or even humans.
If homosexuality is a choice, do Animals have free will to choose?
Penguins, Apes and many other species exhibit homo and bisexual behavior. So are these animals "choosing" to be gay? And because you hate the sin but not the sinner, will they go to animal hell for being gay?
I think that your meaning for "homosexual" is different for the human and the animal. In particular, whereas the human homosexual has sex exclusively with partners of the same sex, homosexual animals have sex with animals of either sex. In other words, whereas for humans you are labeling the person, for animals you are labeling the behavior.
So it appears that only animals have free choice in the matter. Therefore, maybe only animals will burn in Hell.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1636 Jun 15, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
Homosexuality isn't a choice. Come back when you've finally graduated from 3rd grade.
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Than neither is pedophilia. What's your point, pervert?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1637 Jun 15, 2013
The two have nothing to do with each other.
zef wrote:
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Than neither is pedophilia. What's your point, pervert?
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#1638 Jun 15, 2013
cpeter1313 wrote:
The two have nothing to do with each other.
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They are both abnormal, so the two are the same.
Or are you suggesting that homosexuals never rape pedophiles in prison? Because my understanding is that homosexuals do rape pedophiles in prison. That is why so many homosexuals don't care if the drugs they use are illegal. And why so many homosexuals make false accusations of pedophilia. Because it is so much easier for homosexuals to get away with homosexual rape while in prison. Since no one cares about predatory homosexual prisoners and the prisoners that are their victims. Except for women who find such behavior amusing. I suspect most pedophile prisoners are falsely imprisoned so that predatory homosexuals can have more victims to abuse, and women can have more victims to amuse them.

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