Activist: "Abortion Threatens Black A...

Activist: "Abortion Threatens Black America's Future"

There are 5739 comments on the Booker Rising story from Sep 24, 2012, titled Activist: "Abortion Threatens Black America's Future". In it, Booker Rising reports that:

The From Catholic Online : "Adding to the argument that abortion threatens one sector of American society over others, Catherine Davis, president of The Restoration Project, pointed out to the great racial disparity of women currently getting abortions." The article continues: "Davis said that according to the Centers for Disease Control, ... (more)

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“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#1321 Mar 25, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>^^^Ever notice how often pro-abortion advocates use profanity? They don't care about culture or civilization and they show it with their words.
Ever notice how anti choice/ anti woman advocates use hypocritical and misogynistic reasoning? They don't care about women/girls, freedom or liberty. Their idea of culture and civilization is based upon manmade archaic religion that deems women as subservient and submissive. They "pretend" to care deeply about a zygote/embryo/fetus in order to delegate women/girls to second class status while trying to make themselves look compassionate and caring. We all know they are neither.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#1322 Mar 25, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>^^^Ever notice how often pro-abortion advocates use profanity? They don't care about culture or civilization and they show it with their words.
You are mistaken. I am against all abortions past mid-term unless the life of the mother is at stake, and saving both the mother and the child is not feasible. Otherwise, I think abortion is okay, but almost never justifyable past 5 months of pregnancy.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#1323 Mar 25, 2013
Josh in New Orleans wrote:
<quoted text>
You are mistaken. I am against all abortions past mid-term unless the life of the mother is at stake, and saving both the mother and the child is not feasible. Otherwise, I think abortion is okay, but almost never justifyable past 5 months of pregnancy.
What's the difference between four and a half and five months?

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#1324 Mar 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
What's the difference between four and a half and five months?
The difference is that no premature babies survive if born any earlier than about five and a half months. Therefore, I think until that point, it should be a woman's decision fully, and thereafter, abortion is an option of last resort.
It makes sense because before 5 months the unborn child has not gained the biological prerequisites for life outside the womb anyway. It also gives ample time to make such a difficult decision should a woman want to terminate her pregnancy. Once the child is potentially viable outside the womb though, I consider it a moral travesty that our society would rather kill a late term baby at 5 months, when it is worth trying to end the pregnancy without saving the life of the child. I mean, look at this cute little baby here, she was born after 21 weeks.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#1325 Mar 25, 2013

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#1326 Mar 25, 2013
Sorry, I meant to say, "worth ending the pregnancy while also saving the life of the child."
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#1327 Mar 25, 2013
Josh in New Orleans wrote:
<quoted text>
The difference is that no premature babies survive if born any earlier than about five and a half months. Therefore, I think until that point, it should be a woman's decision fully, and thereafter, abortion is an option of last resort.
It makes sense because before 5 months the unborn child has not gained the biological prerequisites for life outside the womb anyway. It also gives ample time to make such a difficult decision should a woman want to terminate her pregnancy. Once the child is potentially viable outside the womb though, I consider it a moral travesty that our society would rather kill a late term baby at 5 months, when it is worth trying to end the pregnancy without saving the life of the child. I mean, look at this cute little baby here, she was born after 21 weeks.
A 5 mon old fetus isn't viable neither is a 4 1/2 mon old. So what changes between 4 1/2 and 5 months?

“Reality is better than truth.”

Since: Nov 09

Indianapolis

#1328 Mar 25, 2013
15 days. Also, no frigging chance of viability.
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
What's the difference between four and a half and five months?
her choice her business

UK

#1329 Mar 25, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Stand up for life, abortion is murder. Those who promote abortion favor a culture of death.
i wish you would stop going on about it. its no one's business but the people involved i.e. the woman and her medical team. In much the same way that you have your own beliefs it has nothing to do with me nor would i try to tell you otherwise or turn you away from your faith.
her choice her business

London, UK

#1330 Mar 25, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
What's the difference between four and a half and five months?
...altho I do think it a bit odd that woman/girl would suddenly decide to have an abortion at such an advanced stage rather than choosing to have one earlier!
zeccec

Pittsburgh, PA

#1331 Mar 25, 2013
youtube.com/watch... Unfortunate Mistake
keep destroying there future save the world

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1332 Mar 26, 2013
Josh in New Orleans wrote:
You are mistaken. I am against all abortions past mid-term unless the life of the mother is at stake, and saving both the mother and the child is not feasible. Otherwise, I think abortion is okay, but almost never justifyable past 5 months of pregnancy.
That post referred to Mo's profanity. I'm glad we agree about abortion in the last trimester.

Even first trimester abortion ends in the death of an innocent.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#1333 Mar 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>That post referred to Mo's profanity. I'm glad we agree about abortion in the last trimester.
Even first trimester abortion ends in the death of an innocent.
Careful Brian, your non-concern for what you consider nothing more than an incubator is showing again.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1334 Mar 26, 2013
Showing concern for the lives of very young children doesn't mean considering women as incubators. It just means you understand morality.

Abortion is premeditated murder.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#1335 Mar 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Showing concern for the lives of very young children doesn't mean considering women as incubators. It just means you understand morality.
Abortion is premeditated murder.
You absolutely consider women/girls inanimate objects/incubators it shows in every post.

Your understanding of morality is a direct correlation to misogynistic religion that delegates women/girls to subservient and submissive.

Abortion is a woman/girls choice over her medical/physical well being not to mention her freedom and liberty. In your little misogynistic world she has no right to any of the above. She owes with zero benefit or concern for herself.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#1336 Mar 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>That post referred to Mo's profanity. I'm glad we agree about abortion in the last trimester.
Even first trimester abortion ends in the death of an innocent.
See, that part I do not understand. I have no opposition to destroying a zygote, embryo, or a week old fetus. Prior to 4 months of pregnancy, the unborn has not developed enough to begin even the early stages of brain activity. Reasonably, I think we can disagree on that point however, but I think it makes no sense to oppose abortion in at least the very earliest weeks of pregnancy. That early, we're not even talking about something with human resemblance... just a mushy ball of cells about the size of a dime that is almost indistinguishable from that of another species even. Put a chicken embryo at about the same stage next to a human one and you'd be hard pressed to figure out which is which.

I think sometimes hard line abortion opponents undermine their own interests by opposing abortion in even the earliest stages of pregnancy. There has to be some consideration of the right a woman has not to be forced to carry a baby she does not want to term. Regardless, and outright abortion ban would not prevent abortions- just send those who want an abortion onto the black market for one, and that could prove dangerous to the health of woman acting out of desperation.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#1337 Mar 26, 2013
Josh in New Orleans wrote:
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There has to be some consideration of the right a woman has not to be forced to carry a baby she does not want to term.
Women are not to be considered by fetus worshippers. Matter of fact once pregnant she no longer exists, she disappears. Ever hear the plea against allowing raped and impregnated women/girls their right to decide? It goes like this, "why kill the baby for the sins of the father". See? The woman, the woman/girl simply disappears as though she never existed and does not matter. They are literally woman haters and fetus worshippers. It is sick.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#1338 Mar 26, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Women are not to be considered by fetus worshippers. Matter of fact once pregnant she no longer exists, she disappears. Ever hear the plea against allowing raped and impregnated women/girls their right to decide? It goes like this, "why kill the baby for the sins of the father". See? The woman, the woman/girl simply disappears as though she never existed and does not matter. They are literally woman haters and fetus worshippers. It is sick.
Likewise, I think the pro-choice crowd often ignores the better arguments of those (I believe) who are rightfully opposed to late and midterm abortions and call it murder. I believe that in part because I have womb memories. The other reason is that I have seen premature babies who were born so early that abortion is legal. From both an ethical and rational point of view, I oppose mid-term abortions. Too often I think these kinds of issues become so contentious precisely because the question of rights is asked in terms of "Whose rights trump whose?"...I.e... The right of the mother to exclusion of the unborn, or v.v.? There has to be a balance because it makes no sense to abort a child when induced labor or c-section can deliver him or her safely. Unfortunately, that is risking the child's health. Therefore I propose outlawing abortions after 5 months or at whatever threshold is suitable per the ability of technology to save the life of the unborn without burdening the mother.

“Obsidian Princess”

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#1339 Mar 26, 2013
Josh in New Orleans wrote:
<quoted text>
Likewise, I think the pro-choice crowd often ignores the better arguments of those (I believe) who are rightfully opposed to late and midterm abortions and call it murder. I believe that in part because I have womb memories. The other reason is that I have seen premature babies who were born so early that abortion is legal. From both an ethical and rational point of view, I oppose mid-term abortions. Too often I think these kinds of issues become so contentious precisely because the question of rights is asked in terms of "Whose rights trump whose?"...I.e... The right of the mother to exclusion of the unborn, or v.v.? There has to be a balance because it makes no sense to abort a child when induced labor or c-section can deliver him or her safely. Unfortunately, that is risking the child's health. Therefore I propose outlawing abortions after 5 months or at whatever threshold is suitable per the ability of technology to save the life of the unborn without burdening the mother.
i agree. i would say that abortion should be outlawed a little earlier then 5 months unless to save the females life. i deffinitely don't agree with late term abortion. who the hell wants an abortion at 6 months along anyway? by this time, women are expecting to deliver a baby.

“Live and let live”

Since: Apr 08

New Orleans

#1340 Mar 26, 2013
dragonpat wrote:
<quoted text>
i agree. i would say that abortion should be outlawed a little earlier then 5 months unless to save the females life. i deffinitely don't agree with late term abortion. who the hell wants an abortion at 6 months along anyway? by this time, women are expecting to deliver a baby.
Thank you, I think a little moderation helps in this debate. There is nonsense on the extremes of both sides. We might all disagree on when or whether abortion is okay, but by natural circumstance, the rights of a mother and her offspring are linked together. Furthermore, any distinction upon determining the moment of personhood is arbitrary. Some say that is just proof that life begins at conception, which it does, but who can say at what point somebody becomes a person? Gestation is like going through all the phases of evolution in short order. Anyway, not to digress, but I feel strongly about both sides of the issue. I'd rather to science than politics.

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