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Activist: "Abortion Threatens Black America's Future"

There are 6108 comments on the Booker Rising story from Sep 24, 2012, titled Activist: "Abortion Threatens Black America's Future". In it, Booker Rising reports that:

The From Catholic Online : "Adding to the argument that abortion threatens one sector of American society over others, Catherine Davis, president of The Restoration Project, pointed out to the great racial disparity of women currently getting abortions." The article continues: "Davis said that according to the Centers for Disease Control, ... (more)

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Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#1262 Mar 20, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
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If you have to ask, it's obvious that you have no idea what the constrictions are. So I'm not going to bother wasting my time to list those problems for you.
Good because you are under a terrible false impression.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#1263 Mar 20, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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With the insistence that America is a christian nation I will base "some" of its founding laws on christian "principles" and credit that towards the treatment of women. America has changed, women are involved in the governing and will continue to grow unlike the CC. I am not blind at all, I have read the bible and understand clearly the low position of women. You can protest all you like it is your book, not mine.
If you want to continue to base your criticisms on laws of the Hebrews two thousand years ago you won't ever see progress even as it is happening.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1264 Mar 20, 2013
Abortion is evil:
Kermit Gosnell on Trial for Abortion "House of Horrors"

Today is the second day in the trial of Kermit Gosnell, the infamous Philadelphia abortionist charged with murdering seven newborn babies and one young woman in a botched abortion due to overdose of anesthesia. Gosnell killed the babies with scissors after they had been born – and he wasn’t the only one.

Adrienne Moton, a former employee of Gosnell, testified for the prosecution. CBS Philadelphia reported her testimony:

"Adrienne Moton broke down several times as she recounted her work at the clinic.

Untrained, she says, she was doing ultrasounds and administering anesthesia within months. And eventually, she has admitted, she snipped the necks of ‘a good ten’ fetuses.”

Kermit Gosnell’s “house of horrors,” otherwise known as the Philadelphia Women's Medical Society, has been well documented, but Gosnell’s defense attorney, Jack McMahon, says that the prosecution is racially motivated.

"This is a targeted, elitist and racist prosecution of a doctor who's done nothing but give (back) to the poor and the people of West Philadelphia…It's a prosecutorial lynching of Dr. Kermit Gosnell."

McMahon’s defense of Gosnell is an outrage. Worlds away from a benevolent community doctor, prosecutors say that police found $250,000 when they raided Gosnell’s home – and for those who can stomach it, the 281-page Grand Jury report lays out just how Gosnell “gave back” to the women of West Philadelphia:

The premises were dirty and unsanitary. Gosnell routinely relied on unlicensed and untrained staff to treat patients, conduct medical tests, and administer medications without supervision. Even more alarmingly, Gosnell instructed unlicensed workers to sedate patients with dangerous drugs in his absence... In addition, he regularly performed abortions beyond the 24-week limit prescribed by law. As a result, viable babies were born. Gosnell killed them by plunging scissors into their spinal cords. He taught his staff to do the same....

“Obsidian Princess”

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#1265 Mar 20, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Abortion is evil:
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those were unrelated to reporductive rights criminal cases.

has nothing to do with the subject.

you people can't talk: how about the recent situation where a women pregnant with twins was having severe heart problems because of her pregnancy but was denied an emergency c-section because this catholic churches religious beliefs and she, her babies ended up dying?

i hate these hypocritcal demons! the catholic dogs were being sued by the womans husband and tried to use a state law that fetus's weren't persons so they would only be sued for one death and not three! ain't it the funky, jesus nut sack gurgling, bloody mary titty sucking catholic church that pushes for fetuse's to be recognized as "persons?"

you guys make me SICK. i truly HATE you.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1266 Mar 21, 2013
dragonpat wrote:
...you people can't talk: how about the recent situation where a women pregnant with twins was having severe heart problems because of her pregnancy but was denied an emergency c-section because this catholic churches religious beliefs and she, her babies ended up dying?....
I'll talk about it, please cite so I can read the facts.
Ocean56

AOL

#1267 Mar 21, 2013
Ink wrote:
Good because you are under a terrible false impression.
Oh PLEASE. There's NO "false impression" of what the Catholic Church's oppressive doctrines are, especiallly in matters of sex and reproduction. Has the church changed its "birth control is a sin" doctrine, by any chance?
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#1268 Mar 21, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you have to ask, it's obvious that you have no idea what the constrictions are. So I'm not going to bother wasting my time to list those problems for you.
No you are reading in constrictions where the are none.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#1269 Mar 21, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
<quoted text>
With the insistence that America is a christian nation I will base "some" of its founding laws on christian "principles" and credit that towards the treatment of women. America has changed, women are involved in the governing and will continue to grow unlike the CC. I am not blind at all, I have read the bible and understand clearly the low position of women. You can protest all you like it is your book, not mine.
Why do you cling to the customs and norms of the first century and before to advocate against the Church. Things are changing and I don't think you are even aware.
Ink

Philadelphia, PA

#1270 Mar 21, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh PLEASE. There's NO "false impression" of what the Catholic Church's oppressive doctrines are, especiallly in matters of sex and reproduction. Has the church changed its "birth control is a sin" doctrine, by any chance?
Not yet but I think they will. We have always had the right to use our on conscience on that matter.

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1271 Mar 21, 2013
"Abortionist Joked:'This Baby Is Big Enough to Walk Around With Me or Walk Me to the Bus Stop'
March 20, 2013
By Michael W. Chapman

( CNSNews.com )– Dr. Kermit Gosnell, an abortionist now on trial in Philadelphia charged with seven counts of first-degree murder--he allegedly cut the spinal cords of late-term aborted babies who were born alive--apparently used to joke about the large size of some the infants he aborted and in one case, according to what a co-worker told the grand jury, said,“This baby is big enough to walk around with me or walk me to the bus stop.”

Gosnell, 72, who ran a multi-million dollar abortion business in West Philadelphia, was arrested on Jan. 19, 2011, and his trial started Monday, Mar. 18, 2013. The first-degree murder counts refer to seven late-term aborted babies who were born alive and then killed, their spinal cords cut with scissors...."
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/abortionist-j...

If you don't think abortion is evil, I dare you to look at the pictures introduced into evidence.

“Obsidian Princess”

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#1272 Mar 21, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
"Abortionist Joked:'This Baby Is Big Enough to Walk Around With Me or Walk Me to the Bus Stop'
March 20, 2013
By Michael W. Chapman
( CNSNews.com )– Dr. Kermit Gosnell, an abortionist now on trial in Philadelphia charged with seven counts of first-degree murder--he allegedly cut the spinal cords of late-term aborted babies who were born alive--apparently used to joke about the large size of some the infants he aborted and in one case, according to what a co-worker told the grand jury, said,“This baby is big enough to walk around with me or walk me to the bus stop.”
Gosnell, 72, who ran a multi-million dollar abortion business in West Philadelphia, was arrested on Jan. 19, 2011, and his trial started Monday, Mar. 18, 2013. The first-degree murder counts refer to seven late-term aborted babies who were born alive and then killed, their spinal cords cut with scissors...."
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/abortionist-j...
If you don't think abortion is evil, I dare you to look at the pictures introduced into evidence.
no one wants to see those nasty pictures.

anyway, this is a CRIMINAL case; and this man is surely a cold blooded criminal. this has nothing to do with reproductive rights.

when a doctor is sued for malpractice, do we demiss all doctors because of this one?

ok then.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#1273 Mar 21, 2013
Actually it has a lot to do with reproductive rigts:

The first line of defense was the Pennsylvania Department of Health. The

department’s job is to audit hospitals and outpatient medical facilities, like Gosnell’s, to make sure that they follow the rules and provide safe care. The department had contact
with the Women’s Medical Society dating back to 1979, when it first issued approval to
open an abortion clinic. It did not conduct another site review until 1989, ten years later.
Numerous violations were already apparent, but Gosnell got a pass when he promised to
fix them. Site reviews in 1992 and 1993 also noted various violations, but again failed to
ensure they were corrected.
But at least the department had been doing something up to that point, however
ineffectual. After 1993, even that pro forma effort came to an end. Not because of
administrative ennui, although there had been plenty. Instead, the Pennsylvania
Department of Health abruptly decided, for political reasons, to stop inspecting abortion
clinics at all. The politics in question were not anti-abortion, but pro. With the change of
administration from Governor Casey to Governor Ridge, officials concluded that
inspections would be “putting a barrier up to women” seeking abortions. Better to leave
clinics to do as they pleased, even though, as Gosnell proved, that meant both women and babies would pay.
The only exception to this live-and-let-die policy was supposed to be for
complaints dumped directly on the department’s doorstep. Those, at least, would be
investigated. Except that there were complaints about Gosnell, repeatedly. Several
different attorneys, representing women injured by Gosnell, contacted the department. A
doctor from Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia hand-delivered a complaint, advising the
department that numerous patients he had referred for abortions came back from Gosnell
with the same venereal disease. The medical examiner of Delaware County informed the department that Gosnell had performed an illegal abortion on a 14-year-old girl carrying
a 30-week-old baby. And the department received official notice that a woman named
Karnamaya Mongar had died at Gosnell’s hands.
But even this total abdication by the Department of Health might not have been
fatal. Another agency with authority in the health field, the Pennsylvania Department of
State, could have stopped Gosnell single-handedly. While the Department of Health
regulates facilities, the Department of State, through its Board of Medicine, licenses and
oversees individual physicians. Like their colleagues at Health, however, Department of
State officials were repeatedly confronted with evidence about Gosnell, and repeatedly
chose to do nothing.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#1274 Mar 21, 2013
Continued:

Indeed, in many ways State had more damning information than anyone else.
Almost a decade ago, a former employee of Gosnell presented the Board of Medicine
with a complaint that laid out the whole scope of his operation: the unclean, unsterile
conditions; the unlicensed workers; the unsupervised sedation; the underage abortion
patients; even the over-prescribing of pain pills with high resale value on the street. The department assigned an investigator, whose investigation consisted primarily of an offsite
interview with Gosnell. The investigator never inspected the facility, questioned other
employees, or reviewed any records. Department attorneys chose to accept this
incomplete investigation, and dismissed the complaint as unconfirmed.
The same thing happened at least twice more: the department received complaints
about lawsuits against Gosnell, but dismissed them as meaningless. A department
attorney said there was no “pattern of conduct.” He never bothered to check a national
litigation database, which would have shown that Gosnell had paid out damages to at
least five different women whose internal organs he had punctured during abortions.
Apparently, the missing piece in the “pattern” was press coverage. Once that began, after
the raid, the department attorney quickly managed to secure a license suspension against
Gosnell.
Similar inaction occurred at the municipal level. The Philadelphia Department of
Public Health does not regulate doctors or medical facilities; but it is supposed to protect
the public’s health. Philadelphia health department employees regularly visited the Women’s Medical Society to retrieve blood samples for testing purposes, but never
noticed, or more likely never bothered to report, that anything was amiss. Another
employee inspected the clinic in response to a complaint that dead fetuses were being
stored in paper bags in the employees’ lunch refrigerator. The inspection confirmed
numerous violations of protocols for storage and disposal of infectious waste. But no
follow-up was ever done, and the violations continued to the end.
A health department representative also came to the clinic as part of a citywide
vaccination program. She promptly discovered that Gosnell was scamming the program;
more importantly, she was the only employee, city or state, who actually tried to do
something about the appalling things she saw there. By asking questions and poking
around, she was able to file detailed reports identifying many of the most egregious
elements of Gosnell’s practice. It should have been enough to stop him. But instead her
reports went into a black hole, weeks before Karnamaya Mongar walked into the Woman’s Medical Society.
Ironically, the doctor at CHOP who personally complained to the Pennsylvania
Department of Health about the spread of venereal disease from Gosnell’s clinic, the
doctor who used to refer teenage girls to Gosnell for abortions, became the head of the
city’s health department two years ago. But nothing changed in the time leading up to
Mrs. Mongar’s death. And it wasn’t just government agencies that did nothing.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#1275 Mar 21, 2013
Continued:

The
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania and its subsidiary, Penn Presbyterian Medical
Center, are in the same neighborhood as Gosnell’s office. State law requires hospitals to report complications from abortions. A decade ago, a Gosnell patient died at HUP after a
botched abortion, and the hospital apparently filed the necessary report. But the victims kept coming in. At least three other Gosnell patients were brought to Penn facilities for
emergency surgery; emergency room personnel said they have treated many others as
well. And at least one additional woman was hospitalized there after Gosnell had begun
a flagrantly illegal abortion of a 29-week-old fetus. Yet, other than the one initial report,
Penn could find not a single case in which it complied with its legal duty to alert
authorities to the danger. Not even when a second woman turned up virtually dead.
So too with the National Abortion Federation. NAF is an association of abortion
providers that upholds the strictest health and legal standards for its members. Gosnell,
bizarrely, applied for admission shortly after Karnamaya Mongar’s death. Despite his
various efforts to fool her, the evaluator from NAF readily noted that records were not
properly kept, that risks were not explained, that patients were not monitored, that
equipment was not available, that anesthesia was misused. It was the worst abortion
clinic she had ever inspected. Of course, she rejected Gosnell’s application. She just never told anyone in authority about all the horrible, dangerous things she had seen.
That leaves the government employees whose job was to make sure that things
like this don’t happen. Worth special mention is Janice Staloski of the Pennsylvania
Department of Health, who personally participated in the 1992 site visit, but decided to
let Gosnell slide on the violations that were already evident then. She eventually rose to
become director of the division that was supposed to regulate abortion providers, but
never looked at Gosnell despite specific complaints from lawyers, a doctor, and a medical
examiner. After she was nonetheless promoted, her successor as division director,
Cynthia Boyne, failed to order an investigation of the clinic even when Karnamaya
Mongar died there.
http://www.phila.gov/districtattorney/PDFs/Gr...

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#1276 Mar 21, 2013
Ink wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you cling to the customs and norms of the first century and before to advocate against the Church. Things are changing and I don't think you are even aware.
You're kidding me right?

You believe in a 4th century book and an institution built upon it with a bloody, murderous and thieving history that believes women are second rate to men and you are questioning why I am questioning them? You claim I am clinging to "their" customs in order to advocate against them? Now in the year 2013 you make the claim things are changing? What exactly was the holdup? So, they were not previously doing or professing "gods" work? How can things change for an institution that claims to be doing gods work according to gods book? I guess you figure somehow they will have an epiphany and be able to wiggle around all the BS they have peddled by smoothing it over with new interpretation? And the game goes on?

Seriously, are you fcking nuts?

“Obsidian Princess”

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#1277 Mar 21, 2013
no it doesn't have anything to do with reproductive rights. this "doctor" was clearly a criminal...

anyway there are viability laws in place to protect fully developed fetuses that can survive outside of the womb.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#1278 Mar 21, 2013
dragonpat wrote:
no it doesn't have anything to do with reproductive rights. this "doctor" was clearly a criminal...
anyway there are viability laws in place to protect fully developed fetuses that can survive outside of the womb.
Why was he allowed to continue?

Because his actions were ignored by the very people who should have been protecting women.

Why were they ignored?

""With the change of
administration from Governor Casey to Governor Ridge, officials concluded that
inspections would be “putting a barrier up to women” seeking abortions. Better to leave
clinics to do as they pleased, even though, as Gosnell proved, that meant both women and babies would pay."

The people who should have shut him down didn't want to interfere even when women and children were being killed.

The only reason that he was stopped was because of the drug bust-if they haden't raided his "clinic" because of the drugs, he would still be in business.

“Obsidian Princess”

Since: Sep 09

louisiana

#1279 Mar 22, 2013
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>
Why was he allowed to continue?
Because his actions were ignored by the very people who should have been protecting women.
Why were they ignored?
""With the change of
administration from Governor Casey to Governor Ridge, officials concluded that
inspections would be “putting a barrier up to women” seeking abortions. Better to leave
clinics to do as they pleased, even though, as Gosnell proved, that meant both women and babies would pay."
The people who should have shut him down didn't want to interfere even when women and children were being killed.
The only reason that he was stopped was because of the drug bust-if they haden't raided his "clinic" because of the drugs, he would still be in business.
criminal case. has nothing to do with millions of womens reproductive rights.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#1280 Mar 22, 2013
dragonpat wrote:
<quoted text>
criminal case. has nothing to do with millions of womens reproductive rights.
How many people allowed Gosnell's criminal activity to continue? Were they prolife or were they pro"choice"?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#1281 Mar 22, 2013
dragonpat wrote:
no one wants to see those nasty pictures.
You can't look at those pictures and still support late term and partial birth abortion. Those pictures will change your world.

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dragonpat wrote:
anyway, this is a CRIMINAL case; and this man is surely a cold blooded criminal. this has nothing to do with reproductive rights.
Abortion is premeditated murder.

.
dragonpat wrote:
when a doctor is sued for malpractice, do we demiss all doctors because of this one? ok then.
Every abortion ends in the death of an innocent; that's what makes abortion different from EVERY other 'medical' procedure.

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