(Right Said) Abortion: When Does Life...

(Right Said) Abortion: When Does Life Begin And Who Decides That? Why This Debate Matters

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“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

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#42 Jan 28, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
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So what, Kaykay. There are still many women who DON'T consider pregnancy a "blessing" and use reliable contraception to AVOID getting knocked up to the best of their ability. Some of the anti-choice crowd are so extreme that they would outlaw all forms of reliable contraception too, if they could. Luckily for all of us, they CAN'T.
Personally, I'm very grateful for the availability of reliable contraception that has kept me pregnancy-FREE the last 15+ years. For me, the idea of being pregnant again SUCKS, and I so love NOT being pregnant.
All fine with me...you don't want to be pregnant, fine. Use all the contraception you want, I agree with that. I know a woman who chose not to be a mother, it never interested her, and that's also fine. Using abortion as birth control is wrong, period.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#43 Jan 28, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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All fine with me...you don't want to be pregnant, fine. Use all the contraception you want, I agree with that. I know a woman who chose not to be a mother, it never interested her, and that's also fine. Using abortion as birth control is wrong, period.
No one is out there saying "Hey, rather than going on the pill, I'll just get abortions."

Abortions are expensive, painful and traumatic. They are not someone's first choice in birth control.

And, as I stated earlier, you are more concerned with denying women the right to have sex than you are with the fetus you swear to be protecting.

You should evaluate your thinking and try and figure out why it is so important to you that other women not be allowed to have sex.

Did you feel rejected in high school?

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

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#44 Jan 28, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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No one is out there saying "Hey, rather than going on the pill, I'll just get abortions."
Abortions are expensive, painful and traumatic. They are not someone's first choice in birth control.
And, as I stated earlier, you are more concerned with denying women the right to have sex than you are with the fetus you swear to be protecting.
You should evaluate your thinking and try and figure out why it is so important to you that other women not be allowed to have sex.
Did you feel rejected in high school?
You seriously need to evaluate your mental health...you're way off the mark here, nugget. Denying women sex? Seriously? Wow, you're that special kind of stupid aren't you? 964

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#45 Jan 28, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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You seriously need to evaluate your mental health...you're way off the mark here, nugget. Denying women sex? Seriously? Wow, you're that special kind of stupid aren't you? 964
Your position has been - Abortion should be allowed for a rape victim but not for a woman who elected to have sex.

That means that you don't have an issue with the killing of the fetus, you just have an issue with a woman having sex by choice and "getting away with it".

You're basically saying: "A rape victim shouldn't have to have the kid because she didn't want to have sex. A slut should have to have the kid because she chose to have sex and now she has to deal with the consequences."

If you see your position some other way, then please TRY and justify it. I could use a good laugh.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

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#46 Jan 28, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Your position has been - Abortion should be allowed for a rape victim but not for a woman who elected to have sex.
That means that you don't have an issue with the killing of the fetus, you just have an issue with a woman having sex by choice and "getting away with it".
You're basically saying: "A rape victim shouldn't have to have the kid because she didn't want to have sex. A slut should have to have the kid because she chose to have sex and now she has to deal with the consequences."
If you see your position some other way, then please TRY and justify it. I could use a good laugh.
I think you've just told everyone what you really think...you stated, and I quote "A slut should have to have the kid because she chose to have sex and now she has to deal with the consequences ". So, you consider all women who want abortions sluts! Nice going nugget, but the laughs on you!

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

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#47 Jan 28, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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Your position has been - Abortion should be allowed for a rape victim but not for a woman who elected to have sex.
That means that you don't have an issue with the killing of the fetus, you just have an issue with a woman having sex by choice and "getting away with it".
You're basically saying: "A rape victim shouldn't have to have the kid because she didn't want to have sex. A slut should have to have the kid because she chose to have sex and now she has to deal with the consequences."
If you see your position some other way, then please TRY and justify it. I could use a good laugh.
Also, you need to go read my post again...you lied stating I would allow abortion only for rape, stop lying.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#48 Jan 28, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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I think you've just told everyone what you really think...you stated, and I quote "A slut should have to have the kid because she chose to have sex and now she has to deal with the consequences ". So, you consider all women who want abortions sluts! Nice going nugget, but the laughs on you!
Pardon my for stepping in but you conveniently skipped over, ignored, dismissed, avoided, omitted, discarded (and all other verbs that apply), the opening line of Nuggins paragraph referencing YOU. The exact words are as follows, "You're basically saying": Here is the paragraph in its entirety:

You're basically saying: "A rape victim shouldn't have to have the kid because she didn't want to have sex. A slut should have to have the kid because she chose to have sex and now she has to deal with the consequences."

Just trying to be helpful and charitable to the mentally disabled. You can thank me later.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

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#49 Jan 28, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Pardon my for stepping in but you conveniently skipped over, ignored, dismissed, avoided, omitted, discarded (and all other verbs that apply), the opening line of Nuggins paragraph referencing YOU. The exact words are as follows, "You're basically saying": Here is the paragraph in its entirety:
You're basically saying: "A rape victim shouldn't have to have the kid because she didn't want to have sex. A slut should have to have the kid because she chose to have sex and now she has to deal with the consequences."
Just trying to be helpful and charitable to the mentally disabled. You can thank me later.
Yes honey, I read that, you're agreeing with that nut job, so you are the one who needs charity. Read the posts nugget writes, they do not make any sense, but I see you'll stick up for even the wackos as long as they're proaborts. Thought you were smarter than that one, but alas, you're not...

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#50 Jan 28, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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I think you've just told everyone what you really think...you stated, and I quote "A slut should have to have the kid because she chose to have sex and now she has to deal with the consequences ". So, you consider all women who want abortions sluts! Nice going nugget, but the laughs on you!
That trick isn't going to work for you.

I've made it clear. My position is abortion should be legal up to age 5.

You are the one trying to argue that abortion is wrong for women who elect to have sex but not wrong for women who have sex forced upon them.

It's your position. Now you can't justify it.

You need to rethink your position.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#51 Jan 28, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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Also, you need to go read my post again...you lied stating I would allow abortion only for rape, stop lying.
So now you are saying that a 14 year old who gets raped by her father and gets pregnant should be forced to keep it?

Is that your new position? Or are you going to go back to saying that you would allow abortion for rape.

Again, you are extremely unclear because you don't know why you think what you think, you just do as you're told.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#52 Jan 28, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
Read the posts nugget writes, they do not make any sense,
Actually they make quite a deal of sense, you just aren't very smart.

Here, I'll go slow. See if you can get a grown up to help you with the tricky words.

You have stated that a woman who gets pregnant through normal sex should NOT be allowed to have an abortion but that a woman who gets raped SHOULD be allowed to have an abortion.

Is that NOT your position? If it's not, then speak up.

If it IS (and a few posts up you made it clear that it is your position), then what is the difference between those two situations.

Both have a male.
Both have a female.
Both have a fetus.

The ONLY difference is whether or not the female elected to have sex.

You're arguing that if she WANTED to have sex, then she has to keep the pregnancy, but that if she DIDN'T WANT to have sex, she doesn't have to keep it.

That means your position is about the MOTIVE of the woman, not the status of the fetus.

You are opposed to women getting abortions if they choose to have sex.

In other words, "That slut should have to keep the baby because she couldn't keep her knees together."

A very ANTI-FEMALE position.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#54 Jan 28, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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Yes honey, I read that, you're agreeing with that nut job, so you are the one who needs charity. Read the posts nugget writes, they do not make any sense, but I see you'll stick up for even the wackos as long as they're proaborts. Thought you were smarter than that one, but alas, you're not...
Well darling, Nuggins questions/concerns make perfect sense, your tiny brainwashed (small load) mind is incapable of comprehending the very ideas YOU are advocating. Basic thought process and critical thinking is not your forte. I never thought you were any smarter than a door knob.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#55 Jan 28, 2013
Nuggin wrote:
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A very ANTI-FEMALE position.
Well yes, she does hate women including herself. she has never denied it though I have pointed it out many times.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

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#56 Jan 28, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Well yes, she does hate women including herself. she has never denied it though I have pointed it out many times.
Awe look, she's fresh out of being able to refute what I say, so she's down to stupidity...lmao! What a dolt!

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#57 Jan 28, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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Awe look, she's fresh out of being able to refute what I say, so she's down to stupidity...lmao! What a dolt!
One only needs to refute a point if the person making the point has actually supported their argument.

So far, you have failed to do so.

Your position is so mess up, you don't know what you think or why you think it.

This is not your fault. People who like to be told what to do and what to think tend to gravitate toward the conservative side of the spectrum. They find it difficult to reason their way through a thought process so they simply elect to have their opinions dictated to them, then just parrot them back as if they were reasonable.

However, the problem for you is that when someone comes along and points out the flaw in the opinion you are parroting, you can't defend it because you never understood why you were told to believe it in the first place.

That's been painfully obvious in your posts.

So far your "refutation" has been to call me crazy.

Why don't you go back and re-read the posts. See if you can find an error in the argument and point it out.

Or hell, just accept the fact that your jealousy of more attractive women is what drives your hatred of them.

Morgana 9

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#58 Jan 29, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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Awe look, she's fresh out of being able to refute what I say, so she's down to stupidity...lmao! What a dolt!
There is nothing to refute, you are on the defense and avoiding any conversation about your views/stance with the exception of statements you cannot backup with any rational arguments such as:

""Life begins at the moment of conception. I don't care what anyone says, God begins life at that moment, end of story."""

"""Bears repeating. God gives us our soul at conception. Anyone who chooses to believe otherwise, I don't really care.""

"""Awe, the same goes for you, killer. You have the right to BELIEVE whatever STUPIDITY you want, WE have the same right to say YOUR beliefs are STUPID, and they are! You and yours are wrong, sad.""

"""Lmao! You have no good argument, so you spew the same crap in each post! Lol lol! That's ok though, makes you look stupid...oh wait, you ARE stupid, my mistake! Hahahaha!!"""

"""Well,what do you think those situations are? Do you really not know? Obviously the life of the mother being in danger, rape and incest. Nothing more, after that, it's killing for convenience."""

You cannot backup you views with anything but "god". You never have. Situation normal.
Ocean56

AOL

#59 Jan 29, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
Awe look, she's fresh out of being able to refute what I say, so she's down to stupidity...lmao! What a dolt!
There's no need to refute STUPIDITY, Kaykay. Your posts are perfect examples of it, and you say absolutely NOTHING.

Since: Sep 07

Los Angeles, CA

#60 Jan 29, 2013
If God gives out souls at conception, how do you determine which identical twin doesn't have one?

bluestreak returns

“too busy lookin' good!”

Since: Jan 13

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#61 Jan 29, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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Awe look, she's fresh out of being able to refute what I say, so she's down to stupidity...lmao! What a dolt!
Well, you see, Kaylagirl, it is because Moogana is mentally ill.

“ABORTION KILLS A HUMAN BEING”

Since: Jul 10

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#62 Jan 29, 2013
bluestreak returns wrote:
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Well, you see, Kaylagirl, it is because Moogana is mentally ill.
And she hates men with a passion. I think she's gay. She hasn't denied it, so it kind of looks like its true. Actually, most of the proaborts here are the lower end of life, so I don't let them get to me. I work to pay their welfare so they can sit here all day and be stupid.

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